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Saturday Night Show 4/10/14 at 9.40pm

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    #182
    CountyHurler
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    Good job Brendan.. He has a way of being empathetic without fawning all over them like another presenter who shall remain nameless...

    Me thinks they should have rang the quiz winner before that last item started..


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    #183
    Welsh Megaman
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    You all right there, Brendan?


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    #184
    efb
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    michael999999 wrote: »
    Well myself and my partner were told by a professor that our baby wouldn't survive birth.

    Told us at our last appointment to arrange a funeral.

    He will celebrate he's 8th birthday after Christmas.

    There not always right.

    (S)He seemed to have a great bedside manner...


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    #185
    cofy
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    My sympathies go out to couples who are in the position this couple are in.


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    #186
    MsQuinn
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    There's some people would rather say a good prayer or two than believe 100% fact from a doctor.

    She had an abortion. She is now on telly saying she doesn't believe in abortion and selling how hard it was for her to have an abortion abroad. It's hard for everyone who has to travel.

    I have sympathy for her but by categorically stating that she does not agree with abortion, is more than a bit hypocritical to be honest. It's like saying "I am an exception - everyone else is doing a bad thing".

    And yes, this service should be provided in Ireland and no one should have to travel in these situations.


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    #187
    Lisha
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    lufties wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me what elmo said about love hate?

    I'm slightly inebriated but I heard nothing about love/hate except that Elmo will be nidges right hand man. Maybe I missed something but I don't think so.
    Roll on tomorrow night :)


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    #188
    paddy ocon
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    michael999999 wrote: »
    Well myself and my partner were told by a professor that our baby wouldn't survive birth.

    Told us at our last appointment to arrange a funeral.

    He will celebrate he's 8th birthday after Christmas.

    There not always right.

    Did you have proper testing done??? Did you get 2nd and 3rd opinions ? I hope you made your complaints about such medical misconduct.

    I am glad your son is here and healthy.


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    #189
    yosser hughes
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    CountyHurler wrote: »
    Good job Brendan.. He has a way of being empathetic without fawning all over them like another presenter who shall remain nameless...

    Me thinks they should have rang the quiz winner before that last item started..

    I couldn't believe his comment to them at the end delivered 'in the interests of balance'
    I thought it was a really really poor interview. There was supposed to be a point to this interview but he couldn't lead the interview properly.It was skirted around.
    His closing comment was disgraceful.


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    #190
    duridian
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    Good night folks


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    #191
    michael999999
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    efb wrote: »
    (S)He seemed to have a great bedside manner...

    He was a gentleman. But there not always right. Don't know how the stress didn't kill mom and child to be honest.


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    #192
    efb
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    yosser hughes wrote: »
    I couldn't believe his comment t them at the end delivered 'in the interests of balance'
    I thought it was a really really poor interview. There was supposed to be a point to this interview but he couldn't lead the interview properly.It was skirted around.
    His closing comment was disgraceful.

    what was it? RTE are running scared after BAI ruling


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    #193
    dublinman1990
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    I switched over to Graham Norton on TV3 after that was over.

    I thought the last interview on Brendan's show was the most depressing and most confusing one I have ever watched.


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    #194
    paddy ocon
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    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    I switched over to Graham Norton on TV3 after that was over.

    I thought the last interview on Brendan's show was the most depressing and most confusing one I have ever watched.

    What was confusing, I may be able to answere some questions about the situation?
    A lot of people don't know how this whole situation comes about etc


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    #195
    cofy
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    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    I switched over to Graham Norton on TV3 after that was over.

    I thought the last interview on Brendan's show was the most depressing and most confusing one I have ever watched.


    Just switched on now, I got a bit of a fright, I thought Graham had his arms in a cast. I need to but the vino away.:o


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    #196
    monkey9
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    I didn't understand that final interview to be honest. If she was so anti-abortion, would she not give birth and hope the doctors were wrong?

    She said if there was even a one percent chance, she'd have gone through with it. Well is not a one percent chance hope??


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    #197
    Sclosages
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    God what a heart-breaking interview.


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    #198
    Sclosages
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    I didn't understand that final interview to be honest. If she was so anti-abortion, would she not give birth and hope the doctors were wrong?

    She said if there was even a one percent chance, she'd have gone through with it. Well is not a one percent chance hope??

    Did you listen to the interview?


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    #199
    Sclosages
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    I didn't understand that final interview to be honest. If she was so anti-abortion, would she not give birth and hope the doctors were wrong?

    She said if there was even a one percent chance, she'd have gone through with it. Well is not a one percent chance hope??

    Monkey. There was not even a 1% chance of the baby surviving.


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    #200
    rarity
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    I feel so desperately sorry for that couple that made the choice to abort their son. It looks like they are living with the nightmare of making a poor judgement. The father looked like he was about to have a break down. How they are living with the stress of that choice is beyond me.

    To have their child delivered by courier is no doubt giving them nightmares. They could possibly benefit from bereavement counselling.

    The message I got from the interview is that they are not entirely reconciled with their decision and perhaps counselling/guidance should be given to mothers/couples in potential similar situations as to the consequences of such a choice/decision.

    from personal experience I know a number of woman that have regretted ever proceeding down the road os abortion. The regret has stayed with them for many many years later. So sad :-(


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    #201
    paddy ocon
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    I didn't understand that final interview to be honest. If she was so anti-abortion, would she not give birth and hope the doctors were wrong?

    She said if there was even a one percent chance, she'd have gone through with it. Well is not a one percent chance hope??

    When you are faced with this situation of knowing your baby will die in utreo or straight after birth, it is a horrendous feeling for some carrying your baby. Every little move you have is a fear that your baby has just died.
    It is stuff of nightmares and the trauma of having a termination is less then carrying your dying child.

    For most in this situation it is not a case of a dr looking at your scan and saying " this baby will not live" you have to go through a serious of tests to get a diagnosis. Blood tests amino tests, 2, 3 other medical experts to confirm the fatal diagnosis.

    Rebecca was given 0% chance by more then 1 doctor.


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    rarity
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    I feel so desperately sorry for that couple that made the choice to abort their son. It looks like they are living with the nightmare of making a poor judgement. The father looked like he was about to have a break down. How they are living with the stress of that choice is beyond me.

    To have their child delivered by courier is no doubt giving them nightmares. They could possibly benefit from bereavement counselling.

    The message I got from the interview is that they are not entirely reconciled with their decision and perhaps counselling/guidance should be given to mothers/couples in potential similar situations as to the consequences of such a choice/decision.

    from personal experience I know a number of woman that have regretted ever proceeding down the road os abortion. The regret has stayed with them for many many years later. So sad :-(


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    #203
    Sclosages
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    Rarity - I don't know how you've come to that conclusion.
    They were told their baby had no mouth, no hands, no feet, would have lungs outgrowing its rib-cage and ZERO chance of survival.
    They were 100% correct in their decision.
    The reason they went on there was clear to me. To try to ensure that no other couple has to endure such a tortuous trip out of the country.
    God, are people insane?


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    #204
    paddy ocon
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    rarity wrote: »
    I feel so desperately sorry for that couple that made the choice to abort their son. It looks like they are living with the nightmare of making a poor judgement. The father looked like he was about to have a break down. How they are living with the stress of that choice is beyond me.

    To have their child delivered by courier is no doubt giving them nightmares. They could possibly benefit from bereavement counselling.

    The message I got from the interview is that they are not entirely reconciled with their decision and perhaps counselling/guidance should be given to mothers/couples in potential similar situations as to the consequences of such a choice/decision.

    from personal experience I know a number of woman that have regretted ever proceeding down the road os abortion. The regret has stayed with them for many many years later. So sad :-(


    Wow talk about not seeing Rebecca and Keith for what their feelings were. I have never seen an interviewed totally TWISTED by anyone like you in my whole life.

    They do not regret their decision they are angry and hurt that they had to leave their own country.

    Good work just joining up now to say what you obviously can't say under your real username


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    #205
    michael999999
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    paddy ocon wrote: »
    Did you have proper testing done??? Did you get 2nd and 3rd opinions ? I hope you made your complaints about such medical misconduct.

    I am glad your son is here and healthy.

    Ya had the whole spectrum done.

    Amniosynthesis being the most horrible of them all.

    This professor is now one of the head fellows in the HSE. In the 8 years since its happened he has never even rang to arrange to see us.

    You would imagine he would want to try and find out how my boy survived. We had to arrange a meeting with him. Just to tell him out story so maybe another couple wouldn't have to be put through the 5 months of misery we were put through.

    Luckily were now dealing with the wonderful Crumlin.


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    #206
    CountyHurler
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    yosser hughes wrote: »
    I couldn't believe his comment to them at the end delivered 'in the interests of balance' I thought it was a really really poor interview..

    The car park in ten minutes Yosser.. I'm bringing my nunchucks...


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    #207
    monkey9
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    Sclosages wrote: »
    Monkey. There was not even a 1% chance of the baby surviving.

    That's what the doctors were saying though. Obviously, they're the experts and i am in no way condemning the couple. But doctors are wrong at times. It's just my thoughts watching the interview. People are told they won't survive this or that but go on to prove medical science wrong.

    As i said, it's just my thoughts watching this. The mother said she is very anti-abortion, that's what struck me. If you're so anti abortion, would you not give the child every single chance,no matter how unlikely, to survive?


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    #208
    Ol' Donie
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    Flicked over to Norton in time for the ads.

    Anyone else think slow cooked pulled chicken looks and sounds manky?


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    #209
    paddy ocon
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭paddy ocon


    michael999999 wrote: »
    Ya had the whole spectrum done.

    Amniosynthesis being the most horrible of them all.

    This professor is now one of the head fellows in the HSE. In the 8 years since its happened he has never even rang to arrange to see us.

    You would imagine he would want to try and find out how my boy survived. We had to arrange a meeting with him. Just to tell him out story so maybe another couple wouldn't have to be put through the 5 months of misery we were put through.

    Luckily were now dealing with the wonderful Crumlin.

    You certainly would imagine he would want to follow up.
    Crumlin are amazing.
    Some conditions are a 100% fatal like ancephaly and others have different spectrums.


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    #210
    Lisha
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    That's what the doctors were saying though. Obviously, they're the experts and i am in no way condemning the couple. But doctors are wrong at times. It's just my thoughts watching the interview. People are told they won't survive this or that but go on to prove medical science wrong.

    As i said, it's just my thoughts watching this. The mother said she is very anti-abortion, that's what struck me. If you're so anti abortion, would you not give the child every single chance,no matter how unlikely, to survive?

    I agree with you so much but consider this; sometimes when the prognosis is so bleak they are told without doubt that the child will have a painful tortured short life experience. Ending the pregnancy can seem much kinder and preferable and simply more merciful than a life of pain and suggesting that will never result in a long life span.


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    #211
    rarity
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    Sclosages wrote: »
    Rarity - I don't know how you've come to that conclusion.
    They were told their baby had no mouth, no hands, no feet, would have lungs outgrowing its rib-cage and ZERO chance of survival.
    They were 100% correct in their decision.
    The reason they went on there was clear to me. To try to ensure that no other couple has to endure such a tortuous trip out of the country.
    God, are people insane?

    Of course to be told such a thing about their baby is shocking. I don't in any way think they took the decision lighty. I do think however, that regardless of the baby having zero chance of survival, if that baby that been delivered naturally, the parents could have reconciled themselves with those deformities in a completely different manner. There are many babies born that takes one or two breaths and die immediately after. Parents of those babies can live with themselves knowing they did all they could. The fact they bring the corpse to bed with them every night shouts out to me of guilt. Do you really in all honesty think there were no other choices. The whole delivery by courier thing aswell, really no other choices???


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