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NTA Design Guidelines for the Creation of Public Transport Information
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Theres a classic example of NTA planning on D'Olier street.
The whole street is lined with bus stops but in between the final two bus stops is an RTPI display
the layout is thus:
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traffic direction
bus stop a ______RTPI_____bus stop b
Poor unsuspecting souls assume the RTPI sign is for bus stop a... after all the commuter is looking in the direction of the incoming traffic.
Wrong, its for bus stop B
Ive seen a fair few people missing buses over this as they're queuing at the wrong stop which is compounded by dublin bus drivers who will throw the bus in a fair bit before the correct stop.0 -
Theres a classic example of NTA planning on D'Olier street.
The whole street is lined with bus stops but in between the final two bus stops is an RTPI display
the layout is thus:
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traffic direction
bus stop a ______RTPI_____bus stop b
Poor unsuspecting souls assume the RTPI sign is for bus stop a... after all the commuter is looking in the direction of the incoming traffic.
Wrong, its for bus stop B
Ive seen a fair few people missing buses over this as they're queuing at the wrong stop which is compounded by dublin bus drivers who will throw the bus in a fair bit before the correct stop.
Interesting choice of location Bambi.
Would you consider D'olier St to be,in any way,a safe reasonable environment for Bus operations as it is currently configured ?Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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Would I consider it relevant to the issue at hand is a better question.
I would hope that you would ?
The management of any such heavily trafficked location has to be of relevance,particularly when one factors in the manouveres necessary to take a departing right-turning laden bus,from an extreme nearside position across one or more lanes of left-turning traffic into Townsend St,particularly when the Bus-Stop is adjacent to the left turning lane and regularly occupied by delivery vehicles,Taxi's and whatever other non-Bus vehicle happens to be available.
Attempting to maintain D'olier St's Bus Operations in the face of the current BXD development is playing with fire.
Significant and dangerous compromises,are being forced upon both Operators and users,largely by supposedly professional planners and engineers who largely do not use the Bus Service.
Space has to be provided and maintained for Bus manouvering,into and away from Bus-Stops,as the vehicles are not equipped with castors,which means drivers have to be considering their departure path,as they approach their arrival location.
With both Walking & Cycling an integral part of the NTA's Public Transport strategy,it is perhaps time for them to recognise reality and remove several routes/bus-stops from the street until normality resumes ?Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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Aside from the omission of the two letter code at the top, a colour change from green to blue, and the new TFI logo, that's more or less the design in the guidelines. Glad to see they saw the light of day somewhere, two years later...
Incidentally in Galway I have seen otherwise normal Bus Eireann stops with different heads on them featuring the Galway City Council logo. No idea where that came from.
They are stops placed by Galway CC and indicate City Direct use the stop aswell as BE I believe.
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