Senator Ned O'Sullivan wants online commentators registered.

DeVore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUfKgM1-cA

Well.... He wants a debate and he wants to have it with "online anonymous bloggers"....

We'll I'm happy to step up to that debate. I'm happy with any location and time he chooses.

I'd like to ask for help pushing this into social media (or in fact any media!) to make this happen

Birneybau

Well, if it stops idiots commenting on stories in the Journal...

Donkey Oaty

His Wiki page some needs spicing up.

It's all silk ties and premium rate phone calls at the moment.

diomed

Comedy gold. That politician wants negative comment outlawed.

recylingbin

We had our chance to get rid of these cnuts, didn't take it.

Gatling

Taken from Tsar Vlad the 1st political policy in Moscow

VinLieger

Luddite, I went to twitter to have an honest discussion with the man about this and he doesn't seem to have an account. He wants to engage with online commenters but gives absolutely no way to do so apart from signing up to an email list on his FF page.

I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised considering this is coming from a 63 year old FF senate lifer.

P_1

An out of touch politician who's scared of the facilities that the internet offers...

This along with Facebook seeming to insist on people using their legal names (at least only in the States so far) is setting off a dangerous precedent.

So long as nobody is being harmed, and I'm sorry but criticism is not causing anyone harm, then people should be free to use whatever nom de plume they wish to use.

nelly17

diomed wrote: »

Comedy gold. That politician wants negative comment outlawed.

Works a treat in North Korea

Harry Palmr

Dear God, Ballymagash.

Didn't the Orish Times change their registration set up so that you have to submit your own Real World name?

gandalf

Another example of why we should have taken the opportunity to remove this waste of resources and talking shop for failed politicians or pseudo unelectable candidates when we had the chance.

topper75

recylingbin wrote: »

We had our chance to get rid of these cnuts, didn't take it.

Still reeling from that myself. Thought the chance to clean things up would be seized by an electorate jaded with nonsense from politicians.

Have to accept it as a democrat.

I know well that anonymity poses problems but politically it can be very healthy.

Work colleague here returned from the great land to the east and informed us that a lad speaking out against the government got sent to the cooler. Not for a few days. But for the rest of his life. I don't want to bring any hyperbolic direct connection between this scenario and the senator's call, but it is from the same root and must be watched by all who care for freedom from tyranny.

Highflyer13

http://www.thejournal.ie/ned-osullivan-seagulls-1672254-Sep2014/

Senator O'Sullivan raising issues of massive national importance these days. :pac:

Diabhal Beag

Never ever trust a man called Ned.

0byme75341jo28

Politicians and the internet never mix well.

Remember that'd eejit a few years ago who wanted to put time limits on how long you could spend on the internet at one time or something?

Edit: Nevermind, it was gaming consoles :rolleyes:

wazky

This is the problem with democracy, idiots get to vote too.

Install me as Great and Fair Ruler Wazinski and I'll make everything good again.

Harry Palmr

Crystal Powerful Sprint wrote: »

Politicians and the internet never mix well.

Remember that'd eejit a few years ago who wanted to put time limits on how long you could spend on the internet at one time or something?

Edit: Nevermind, it was gaming consoles :rolleyes:

Don't forget the "Fraping" (facebook rape) courtesy of Senator (there's a theme developing here) Fidelma Healy-Eames.

Grayson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Don't forget the "Fraping" (facebook rape) courtesy of Senator (there's a theme developing here) Fidelma Healy-Eames.

She's probably unemployable as anything else.

SEPT 23 1989

Fianna Fail should be registered on the list of proscribed organisations after what they did to the people in this country

recylingbin

topper75 wrote: »

Still reeling from that myself. Thought the chance to clean things up would be seized by an electorate jaded with nonsense from politicians.

Have to accept it as a democrat.

I know well that anonymity poses problems but politically it can be very healthy.

Work colleague here returned from the great land to the east and informed us that a lad speaking out against the government got sent to the cooler. Not for a few days. But for the rest of his life. I don't want to bring any hyperbolic direct connection between this scenario and the senator's call, but it is from the same root and must be watched by all who care for freedom from tyranny.

It was utterly baffling how the eloctorate decided to keep these good ol boys in the lap of lucury for doing nothing.
That Norris whinger has barely been heard of since. Is that the only thing he's done all the years he's been hoovering up the salary and expenses?

gandalf

Birneybau wrote: »

Well, if it stops idiots commenting on stories in the Journal...

Ah come on! The only reason to read the journal is to go through all the comments from the nutters!!!!

krudler

Old man yells at cloud, more after the weather.

Grayson

I think the important question from that video is who are the weird guys in the back who are wearing white? they look like some weird religious acolytes. I did like they way they all sidled away like crabs halfway through.

dr.bollocko

He just wants to show off that he thinks he understands enough to have an opinion.

He's never going to understand any counterpoint to his argument and any attempt to provide a counterpoint will only make him dig in further. It's a waste of time to give this kind of commentary any talk time IMO.

krudler

Grayson wrote: »

I think the important question from that video is who are the weird guys in the back who are wearing white? they look like some weird religious acolytes. I did like they way they all sidled away like crabs halfway through.

School on a tour? or some sort of scare em straight program. "Look lads this is what happens when you lose touch with reality and live off taxpayers money"

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Don't forget the "Fraping" (facebook rape) courtesy of Senator (there's a theme developing here) Fidelma Healy-Eames.

She thought fraping was the same as raping.

mathie

What does Senator Les Whinen think?

cajonlardo

In fairness, hasn't he the epitome of a F.F Gombeen Head on him?

Didn't he get caught running up thousands of Euros bill on a premium rate line through a Dail Phone? Voting for Healy Rae on a reality show?

All the comments above about people voting for these eejits, F.F voters would drag themselves out of their graves and go to the ballot. The blame lies squarely on those who let apathy rule the day and did not vote or did not use their vote wisely.

mikom

Never gets old............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHoI5Zum2ek

Menas

Would someone stand up for the man? SOMEONE???

jimgoose

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Would someone stand up for the man? SOMEONE???

There is great chaos under heaven - the situation is excellent.

cajonlardo

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Would someone stand up for the man? SOMEONE???

Apt username - go get him!

gandalf

BTW DeVore this is one debate that needs to be streamed online as well.

PizzamanIRL

Ned O' Sullivan can feck off. Yeah you, Ned.

Its interesting nobody has addressed the point of clip instead it all about FF and or Ned o Sullivan.

Yes I do think on line commentaters should have to provide some sort of identification which does not have to be made public. It would stop the worst of the vitriol and keep out the underlying nastiness.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

People aren't anonymous online anyway. If you make a credible threat online they can find you pretty much every time.

The fact Shane McEntee's suicide was partly blamed on social media concerned me at the time, it was odd at best.

Cyber bullying in the main is done by people who know the victim, and is done on platforms like Facebook which couldn't possibly be any less anonymous.

Bullying needs to be taken seriously, both online and off, but it is a million miles away from criticising TD's, or soccer players, or musicians.

Discourse is the corner stone of a healthy society and democracy and anyone who argues against that is a fascist.

gandalf

The problem here is technology is being used as a scapegoat by people who don't understand it, want to get a quick and cheap soundbite and who don't actually have a solution for the real issue at hand.

As has been pointed out virtually no one is anonymous on the internet. We all leave a means to find out who we are.

If you are public person does that alone make you fair game?

If you are in politics, your opinion and policies are fair game, but not your appearance, your family, your weight.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

mariaalice wrote: »

If you are public person does that alone make you fair game?

If you are in politics, your opinion and policies are fair game, but not your appearance, your family, your weight.

On a personal level I would like our minister for health to not be obese. I would worry about someone who has so little self control having such an important job.

VinLieger

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

On a personal level I would like our minister for health to not be obese. I would worry about someone who has so little self control having such an important job.

One of the many reasons why Leo might be the best one we have had for a while, tbh it might end up being the only pro he has over his 2 predecessors but time will tell on that i suppose

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

On a personal level I would like our minister for health to not be obese. I would worry about someone who has so little self control having such an important job.

Varadkar may have a fat head but he's hardly obese.

shruikan2553

One day a senator will say something about technology that isn't completely stupid

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

On a personal level I would like our minister for health to not be obese. I would worry about someone who has so little self control having such an important job.

Indeed but that not the motivation for most of the online comment about the weight of various ministers for health. That's very insidious as well.. a underling nastiness excused by a seemingly reasonable comment.

I don't think you have any worries with the present health minister.

biko

It's already been tried and did not work.
A newspaper in Sweden forced everyone onto using FB accounts for comments, hoping people would "settle down" a bit when they had to use their names.
That scare tactic didn't work, people still would post angrily about things - so the newspaper simply did away with comments altogether.

krudler

Plenty of people post on youtube with their real names, and youtube comments are like stupidity and ignorance personified.

Davarus Walrus

Most online discourse is complete sh1te in fairness. Tired populist nonsense, cheap rhetoric and lashings of faux-outrage. What I find most worrying is that some politicians actually give a sh1te about what gimps on the Internet are saying.

4zn76tysfajdxp

DeVore wrote: »

Well.... He wants a debate and he wants to have it with "online anonymous bloggers"....

We'll I'm happy to step up to that debate. I'm happy with any location and time he chooses.

I'd like to ask for help pushing this into social media (or in fact any media!) to make this happen

Hearing a lot of I's there. Getting a bang of self-promotion, myself.

DeVore

I just like making trouble generally



Like many other people.

krudler

krudler wrote: »

Plenty of people post on youtube with their real names, and youtube comments are like stupidity and ignorance personified.

I wonder about that as well, I came across a completely mad nasty rant by some up the ra type just because an English person said thy liked trad music. the person could easily be identified.

So obviously some people don't care what they put up online.

kowloon

DeVore wrote: »

I just like making trouble generally

Go easy on him though, he's old and frail, these 'puters scare him. His heart might give in if you tear him a new arsehole with your technolingo.

The_Valeyard

gandalf wrote: »

Ah come on! The only reason to read the journal is to go through all the comments from the nutters!!!!

Some can be funny,

But I have seen a huge number of supposed 'liberals' speak such bile, forked tongue aggression towards others that have a different point of view, it can be menacing or even scary. I just avoid the comments section.

No way to regulate it anyhow, what happens if the servers are based outside of Ireland?