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remmy7

Hello,looking to get a mod for my 220 swift. ,its a heavy barrel remington 700 ,what would be a good choice, thanks

Cass

If it's heavy barrel i'd recommend an over barrel mod to keep the weight more to the action and prevent it being muzzle heavy. You can look at lighter mods, but some don't have the same suppression as other makes that would be heavier.

Here are a few mods and average prices. They do depend on where you buy them obviously.

• Ase Utra S5/Jet-Z = €380
• T8 = €270
• Wildcat Predator = €295
• ATec Maxim = €300

I have/had all four of them. I've given some observations based on usage and the rifles they were used on below.



An Ase Utra S5 on a .308 & .243

• Great mod, great results with little to no difference in POI out to 300yds with it on or off.
• Easy enough to clean.
• Best sound reduction.
• Heavy on the end of the barrel.
• More expensive than most other mods.
• Tough wearing and will last as long as the owner if treated right.

T8 on 30-06 and .243

• Good on the .243 and 30-06, but difference in POI with mod on was 7" at 200yds.
• Prone to rusting.
• No more difficult to clean than an Ase, etc.
• Screws down over barrel so reducing excess weight on the end of the rifle.
• Has a resonance when fired.
• Cheapest of the current available stock of mods.
• Lighter than the Ase.

Wildcat on .223

• Great mod, and very little in difference in POI with in on or off.
• Lighter than the Ase and ( i think) the T8.
• Screw down over the barrel for reduced weight.
• Completely comes apart for easy cleaning.
• Baffles can be changed allowing the mod to be used on a .223 up to .30cal wth new inners.
• Polymer housing gives no resonance.
• Cheaper than Ase, but a little more expensive than T8.

A-Tec Maxim on .243

• Lightweight
• Good sound suppression
• Reflex
• Cheaper than most other makes at around €300
• Comes apart for easy cleaning
• Small change in POI with mod on to off.

Other brands include Roedale, Hausken, etc. but as i've not used them i'll leave it to someone else to review them.

remmy7

Cass wrote: »

If it's heavy barrel i'd recommend an over barrel mod to keep the weight more to the action and prevent it being muzzle heavy. You can look at lighter mods, but some don't have the same suppression as other makes that would be heavier.

Here are a few mods and average prices. They do depend on where you buy them obviously.

• Ase Utra S5/Jet-Z = €380
• T8 = €270
• Wildcat Predator = €295
• ATec Maxim = €300

I have/had all four of them. I've given some observations based on usage and the rifles they were used on below.



An Ase Utra S5 on a .308 & .243

• Great mod, great results with little to no difference in POI out to 300yds with it on or off.
• Easy enough to clean.
• Best sound reduction.
• Heavy on the end of the barrel.
• More expensive than most other mods.
• Tough wearing and will last as long as the owner if treated right.

T8 on 30-06 and .243

• Good on the .243 and 30-06, but difference in POI with mod on was 7" at 200yds.
• Prone to rusting.
• No more difficult to clean than an Ase, etc.
• Screws down over barrel so reducing excess weight on the end of the rifle.
• Has a resonance when fired.
• Cheapest of the current available stock of mods.
• Lighter than the Ase.

Wildcat on .223

• Great mod, and very little in difference in POI with in on or off.
• Lighter than the Ase and ( i think) the T8.
• Screw down over the barrel for reduced weight.
• Completely comes apart for easy cleaning.
• Baffles can be changed allowing the mod to be used on a .223 up to .30cal wth new inners.
• Polymer housing gives no resonance.
• Cheaper than Ase, but a little more expensive than T8.

A-Tec Maxim on .243

• Lightweight
• Good sound suppression
• Reflex
• Cheaper than most other makes at around €300
• Comes apart for easy cleaning
• Small change in POI with mod on to off.

Other brands include Roedale, Hausken, etc. but as i've not used them i'll leave it to someone else to review them.

Sound lad great information thanks

hiddenmongoose

had a t8 for years on my 220 swift.Found it very good, never had problems with rust(I do have with the one on my 308 though) small change of poi(5cm low with mod on at 100m) overall very good and the reason I bought one for my 308

Mauser 308

Cass wrote: »

If it's heavy barrel i'd recommend an over barrel mod to keep the weight more to the action and prevent it being muzzle heavy. You can look at lighter mods, but some don't have the same suppression as other makes that would be heavier.

Here are a few mods and average prices. They do depend on where you buy them obviously.

• Ase Utra S5/Jet-Z = €380
• T8 = €270
• Wildcat Predator = €295
• ATec Maxim = €300

I have/had all four of them. I've given some observations based on usage and the rifles they were used on below.



An Ase Utra S5 on a .308 & .243

• Great mod, great results with little to no difference in POI out to 300yds with it on or off.
• Easy enough to clean.
• Best sound reduction.
• Heavy on the end of the barrel.
• More expensive than most other mods.
• Tough wearing and will last as long as the owner if treated right.

T8 on 30-06 and .243

• Good on the .243 and 30-06, but difference in POI with mod on was 7" at 200yds.
• Prone to rusting.
• No more difficult to clean than an Ase, etc.
• Screws down over barrel so reducing excess weight on the end of the rifle.
• Has a resonance when fired.
• Cheapest of the current available stock of mods.
• Lighter than the Ase.

Wildcat on .223

• Great mod, and very little in difference in POI with in on or off.
• Lighter than the Ase and ( i think) the T8.
• Screw down over the barrel for reduced weight.
• Completely comes apart for easy cleaning.
• Baffles can be changed allowing the mod to be used on a .223 up to .30cal wth new inners.
• Polymer housing gives no resonance.
• Cheaper than Ase, but a little more expensive than T8.

A-Tec Maxim on .243

• Lightweight
• Good sound suppression
• Reflex
• Cheaper than most other makes at around €300
• Comes apart for easy cleaning
• Small change in POI with mod on to off.

Other brands include Roedale, Hausken, etc. but as i've not used them i'll leave it to someone else to review them.

Great review Cass.
One question did you find much difference in the noise reduction between the Ase Utra S5 and the T8. I have the T8 and find it good on noise and recoil reduction. But I have an area with horses I go foxing with the .243 and would like to reduce the noise further if possible.

Cass

The difference between the two might only be measured accurately with a decibel meter, but in my opinion the Ase just edges the T8. However with a €150 price difference i'd look at the T8 first. That and the T8 is reflex whereas the Ase is (95% of the time) muzzle mounted and the T8 is lighter.

So for value for money the T8 would be the one. The Wildcat and A-Tec are decent Mods, but due to the material they are made from, their design, etc. there seems to be a resonance from them, and sound reduction is not on a par with either the Ase or the T8.