Garda reserve

fathead 241188

Hi all ,, I went for my medical for garda reserves on July 15th gone at 10am just wondering was there anyone else on this day aswell ?? Have few questions thanks in advance

JonathanP

fathead 241188 wrote: »

Hi all ,, I went for my medical for garda reserves on July 15th gone at 10am just wondering was there anyone else on this day aswell ?? Have few questions thanks in advance

Lucky You... im still waiting for an interview... 😓

lisamajella

fathead 241188 wrote: »

Hi all ,, I went for my medical for garda reserves on July 15th gone at 10am just wondering was there anyone else on this day aswell ?? Have few questions thanks in advance

Yes I had my medical that day

fathead 241188

lisamajella wrote: »

Yes I had my medical that day

Hi did you get threw or have you heard anymore??

lisamajella

fathead 241188 wrote: »

Hi did you get threw or have you heard anymore??

Yes I start training this Thursday and Friday then 2 weeks in December and other dates to be confirmed in new year

fathead 241188

lisamajella wrote: »

Yes I start training this Thursday and Friday then 2 weeks in December and other dates to be confirmed in new year

Hey how did today nd yesterday go ?

JonathanP

I emailed the piblicjobs and they said i was 67th on the list to be interviewed is this a good bad or indifferent position to be in?

RUNNER 1

Its not good , iv been waiting for a medical for 2 years pal , will be three years since i first applied this coming march.

JonathanP

RUNNER 1 wrote: »

Its not good , iv been waiting for a medical for 2 years pal , will be three years since i first applied this coming march.

Oh My god 😱😩.... feck it i thought i was gettin somewhere.... looks like were going nowhere fast 😩she said i could move to an area outside my own for interview... i think she meant 67th in the kilkenny area

RUNNER 1

If u don't mind waiting 3-5 years to get in then go for interview , otherwise just forget about it pal.

tg123

The time from application to getting an offer does vary. For me it was 18 months from time of application to arriving at the college to commence training

RUNNER 1

U were very lucky, I found out a few days ago that there won't be another reserve class till next September ,. I personally have gave up on it but for any1who would like to do it is a long and ****y process that can take years, just my opinion

D Trent

RUNNER 1 wrote: »

U were very lucky, I found out a few days ago that there won't be another reserve class till next September ,. I personally have gave up on it but for any1who would like to do it is a long and ****y process that can take years, just my opinion

You mind me asking where you found out about Sept 2015 intake?

JonathanP

RUNNER 1 wrote: »

U were very lucky, I found out a few days ago that there won't be another reserve class till next September ,. I personally have gave up on it but for any1who would like to do it is a long and ****y process that can take years, just my opinion

Does that include interviews and all or jus people whove been tgrough everything and jus waiting to get trained?

RUNNER 1

Rang the office she said be end of next year September time

RUNNER 1

From the get go ur left waiting for everything, that's my experience and many others

coolock94

RUNNER 1 wrote: »

Rang the office she said be end of next year September time

I rang yesterday I have one check left to be complete and the lady said that early next year there will be an intake

RUNNER 1

Haha this makes me laugh they tell something different 2 everyone that rings in , proves my point they DONT have a clue what there doing ,as in how early did they say coolock ? I have 7 checks on mean and its been out 1 and a half now , do u wana know why ? They said they lost it for awhile #there a joke.

coolock94

Jasus mate that is a joke can understand why you are pissed. I'm hoping IT will be in soon, sent mine off in March this year so only one check left hope it's quick. I just forget about it and check every now and again for updates.

Canyon86

its a long wait, and imo i dont think its worth it,

a recent stat quoted only 2% of reserves in a decade entered full time gardai,

in my view this is a shocking %,

if you have age and time on your side apply, but dont let it get in the way of other things in your life,

i withdrew my name also, i wanted to build a career for myself in another sector,

good luck with your decision

RUNNER 1

How far did you get through the process Canyon86? cause i think i am going to do same

Canyon86

RUNNER 1 wrote: »

How far did you get through the process Canyon86? cause i think i am going to do same

i was offered a place for training,

but couldnt committ to training due to work commitments abroad, and saw the reserves as a dead end,

TallGlass

Canyon86 wrote: »

i was offered a place for training,

but couldnt committ to training due to work commitments abroad, and saw the reserves as a dead end,

It really is a joke from the get go sadly.

kerry4sam

TallGlass wrote: »

It really is a joke from the get go sadly.

No I'm sorry now but I have some serious issues with An Garda Síochána as an organisation, but I cannot not comment on this. Not sure how you can refer to the Garda Reserves as a "joke" tbh.

Educating all full-timers of all ranks about duties; responsibilities; roles; reason etc would've solved a few issues I do believe. Sur I was asked one night by a senior officer if I was going to charge or release a prisoner before a full-timer stepped in; eventhough I know I looked bewildered trying to process the events that led to the prisoner being there & wearing my training epaulettes. Another night I was handed the keys to a car and asked to drive it back to the station (drink-driver case); I was still on provisional myself and even if I was on full, I could not do that, so I didn't! Another instance involving one senior officer with responsibility for me that shift just roared at me one day saying straight-out "I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE; I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO; NO REASON FOR YOU TO BE HERE..." - obviously had other issues on his mind, but his priority at that point was in roaring his ignorance at me.

Things like that led to full-timers getting annoyed as I could not assist in some situations & just felt utterly useless & miniscule at the very least.

Not a joke imo, just not completely thought out nor executed as it should,
If senior officers don't want reserves in their unit, they should've taken it out with their superiors and not on the volunteers imo!
If any member did not know about the volunteers, they should've asked questions like some members on one of my units did. They would talk to me & ask me directly about what I could do etc. That was real nice I felt. At least they made an effort you know.

Still can't call it a joke though,
kerry4sam

coolock94

The commissioner seemed to like the fact that 2 groups of reserves graduated this year. Hopefully 2015 will be the year we get our training dates.

RUNNER 1

I wouldnt count on it coolock ,2020 maybe :P

bluetop

kerry4sam wrote: »

No I'm sorry now but I have some serious issues with An Garda Síochána as an organisation, but I cannot not comment on this. Not sure how you can refer to the Garda Reserves as a "joke" tbh.

Educating all full-timers of all ranks about duties; responsibilities; roles; reason etc would've solved a few issues I do believe. Sur I was asked one night by a senior officer if I was going to charge or release a prisoner before a full-timer stepped in; eventhough I know I looked bewildered trying to process the events that led to the prisoner being there & wearing my training epaulettes. Another night I was handed the keys to a car and asked to drive it back to the station (drink-driver case); I was still on provisional myself and even if I was on full, I could not do that, so I didn't! Another instance involving one senior officer with responsibility for me that shift just roared at me one day saying straight-out "I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE; I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO; NO REASON FOR YOU TO BE HERE..." - obviously had other issues on his mind, but his priority at that point was in roaring his ignorance at me.

Things like that led to full-timers getting annoyed as I could not assist in some situations & just felt utterly useless & miniscule at the very least.

Not a joke imo, just not completely thought out nor executed as it should,
If senior officers don't want reserves in their unit, they should've taken it out with their superiors and not on the volunteers imo!
If any member did not know about the volunteers, they should've asked questions like some members on one of my units did. They would talk to me & ask me directly about what I could do etc. That was real nice I felt. At least they made an effort you know.

Still can't call it a joke though,
kerry4sam

The reserve force will never be anything apart from a pain in the rear ends of the people in the park, they dont want the reserve force having any powers or a voice to be heard, senior management dont want them and that filters down to all the other rank and file, they have little or no powers that is of any use to FT members yes you can help them out "but" thats it.

The reserve force is now nearly 10yrs old and is still no further down the line since day one, you could be lucky and get a decent station, and then unlucky if you get a staunch GRA one if that is the case you might as well move as you will never be excepted, i have heard stories of RG been left on a set beat for the full 10hrs of their shift yet the FT would only have to do 5hrs and they would be relieved by another.

Until management put their foot down and say enough is enough, we want a reserve force fit for purpose it will never amount to anything other then an extra person walking around like a shadow, at least it would have stood a chance with an outside commissioner sadly this will not happen now as AGS is just not able for change its afraid of it, sadly the commissioner is part of the old regime and will also be afraid to commit, as for the inspectorate report it might as well be toilet paper for what will be implemented and how long it will take to achieve if ever.

kerry4sam

bluetop wrote: »

The reserve force will never be anything apart from a pain in the rear ends of the people in the park, they dont want the reserve force having any powers or a voice to be heard, senior management dont want them and that filters down to all the other rank and file, they have little or no powers that is of any use to FT members yes you can help them out "but" thats it.

The reserve force is now nearly 10yrs old and is still no further down the line since day one, you could be lucky and get a decent station, and then unlucky if you get a staunch GRA one if that is the case you might as well move as you will never be excepted, i have heard stories of RG been left on a set beat for the full 10hrs of their shift yet the FT would only have to do 5hrs and they would be relieved by another.

Until management put their foot down and say enough is enough, we want a reserve force fit for purpose it will never amount to anything other then an extra person walking around like a shadow, at least it would have stood a chance with an outside commissioner sadly this will not happen now as AGS is just not able for change its afraid of it, sadly the commissioner is part of the old regime and will also be afraid to commit, as for the inspectorate report it might as well be toilet paper for what will be implemented and how long it will take to achieve if ever.

Oh tip of the ice-berg bluetop I'm afraid.

I am curious about something though: Did anyone ever try and engage with any representative of the GRA; anyone ever meet them on behalf of the GardaReserves and actively engage in any positive manner I don't ever remember hearing about such an encounter or even read anything on a meeting of this kind so I'm just curious about that.

I mean, surely the GRA would not have followed the lines of IanPaisley and his NO, NO, NO rule (before eventually altering his stance); no engagement; no consultation; no trying to understand the GR-process; no viewing members as actual humans instead of some entity they must terminate & destroy.
Remember JohnHume saying to him "Ian, if the word ‘no’ were to be removed from the English language, you’d be speechless, wouldn’t you!”Ian Paisley: ”No, I wouldn’t!”"

Just something I'm curious about,
kerry4sam

Yogi Bear

kerry4sam wrote: »

Oh tip of the ice-berg bluetop I'm afraid.

I am curious about something though: Did anyone ever try and engage with any representative of the GRA; anyone ever meet them on behalf of the GardaReserves and actively engage in any positive manner I don't ever remember hearing about such an encounter or even read anything on a meeting of this kind so I'm just curious about that.

I mean, surely the GRA would not have followed the lines of IanPaisley and his NO, NO, NO rule (before eventually altering his stance); no engagement; no consultation; no trying to understand the GR-process; no viewing members as actual humans instead of some entity they must terminate & destroy.
Remember JohnHume saying to him "Ian, if the word ‘no’ were to be removed from the English language, you’d be speechless, wouldn’t you!”Ian Paisley: ”No, I wouldn’t!”"

Just something I'm curious about,
kerry4sam

18th February 2008 a group of reserves meet the GRA in Phibsboro Towers about affiliation. They were asked to submit it in writing and this was sent by registered letter. No reply was ever received back from the GRA.

bluetop

kerry4sam wrote: »

Oh tip of the ice-berg bluetop I'm afraid.

I am curious about something though: Did anyone ever try and engage with any representative of the GRA; anyone ever meet them on behalf of the GardaReserves and actively engage in any positive manner I don't ever remember hearing about such an encounter or even read anything on a meeting of this kind so I'm just curious about that.

I mean, surely the GRA would not have followed the lines of IanPaisley and his NO, NO, NO rule (before eventually altering his stance); no engagement; no consultation; no trying to understand the GR-process; no viewing members as actual humans instead of some entity they must terminate & destroy.
Remember JohnHume saying to him "Ian, if the word ‘no’ were to be removed from the English language, you’d be speechless, wouldn’t you!”Ian Paisley: ”No, I wouldn’t!”"

Just something I'm curious about,
kerry4sam

As the previous poster has said he is correct, i also remember a body that was set up to try and deal with the Reserve Superintendent and that did not go down well as far as i have heard, they were told in no uncertain terms shut down or else, that was the last from them, the GRA voted against the GR ever getting off the ground they were the ones that blocked the independent patrol if they allowed them to come in in the 10yrs they have been established for 8yrs of that GRA & AGSI have belittled the reserve force coming out with stupid remarks like mollycoddled, yellow scarecrows, that is just some of the words they used, so do you actually think they would want the reserve force to be part of their orginisation that would mean backing down on their 8yrs of beliefs, they were also the ones who told the full timers not to work with us, so as you can see from the word go they were on the back foot total lack of integration and no respect for the reserve members that give up their time to help their members on the street regardless of the risks involved, and before anyone come on and says sure you knew what you were getting into correct we did and still decided to do it.

New blood needs to come and bring the AGS up with the times far too long lagging behind ever other force in every way, radios all though in plentiful supply are still not part of the PPE which it should be as part of H&S, Intel should also be sorted on pulse as the comms room is a disaster if your on your own as you cant give out the appropriate information which could be potentially a hazard for your collogues looking for information, no PO powers still not rolled out after 13mts of doing the training total joke some people gave up a days work to do the course and for what nothing the system is totally flawed they either need to make the reserve force fit for purpose or just scrap it.

That is my thoughts on it and i am sure there is lots and lots that would be of the same opinion.

kerry4sam

Yogi Bear wrote: »

18th February 2008 a group of reserves meet the GRA in Phibsboro Towers about affiliation. They were asked to submit it in writing and this was sent by registered letter. No reply was ever received back from the GRA.

Thanks, never knew that. Just another piece of ignorance by them.

bluetop wrote: »

As the previous poster has said he is correct, i also remember a body that was set up to try and deal with the Reserve Superintendent and that did not go down well as far as i have heard, they were told in no uncertain terms shut down or else, that was the last from them, the GRA voted against the GR ever getting off the ground they were the ones that blocked the independent patrol if they allowed them to come in in the 10yrs they have been established for 8yrs of that GRA & AGSI have belittled the reserve force coming out with stupid remarks like mollycoddled, yellow scarecrows, that is just some of the words they used, so do you actually think they would want the reserve force to be part of their orginisation that would mean backing down on their 8yrs of beliefs, they were also the ones who told the full timers not to work with us, so as you can see from the word go they were on the back foot total lack of integration and no respect for the reserve members that give up their time to help their members on the street regardless of the risks involved, and before anyone come on and says sure you knew what you were getting into correct we did and still decided to do it.

New blood needs to come and bring the AGS up with the times far too long lagging behind ever other force in every way, radios all though in plentiful supply are still not part of the PPE which it should be as part of H&S, Intel should also be sorted on pulse as the comms room is a disaster if your on your own as you cant give out the appropriate information which could be potentially a hazard for your collogues looking for information, no PO powers still not rolled out after 13mts of doing the training total joke some people gave up a days work to do the course and for what nothing the system is totally flawed they either need to make the reserve force fit for purpose or just scrap it.

That is my thoughts on it and i am sure there is lots and lots that would be of the same opinion.

The part in bold by me: Sorry but I was not aware that I would be subjected to this!
As for the comms room: nightmares man; I didn't sleep right for nights after one incident with the comms-room; praying to God I dealt with the incident okay. I was never supposed to be on my own in there, especially when 999-calls do come in! If anything did come back, I'm sure the full-time rostered on for there would've covered knowing I wasn't supposed to be in there on-my-own with limited pulse-access; no info of who was who; what was where; or who to contact when... :mad:

I wonder what they actually see for the GardaReserves though: As Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Thanks,
kerry4sam

bluetop

kerry4sam wrote: »

Thanks, never knew that. Just another piece of ignorance by them.



The part in bold by me: Sorry but I was not aware that I would be subjected to this!
As for the comms room: nightmares man; I didn't sleep right for nights after one incident with the comms-room; praying to God I dealt with the incident okay. I was never supposed to be on my own in there, especially when 999-calls do come in! If anything did come back, I'm sure the full-time rostered on for there would've covered knowing I wasn't supposed to be in there on-my-own with limited pulse-access; no info of who was who; what was where; or who to contact when... :mad:

I wonder what they actually see for the GardaReserves though: As Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Thanks,
kerry4sam

Kerry i love that link reminds me off so much we have all put up with and for for what, ya get no thanks not that i want it but its nice to know we are part of a team not a ohh they can do nothing but walk around like a statue, if only the shoe was on the other foot they might have a clue what its like, its thru no fault of the reserves they cant do anything they have done the up-skilling as i have said 13mts ago and have got nothing in return, some GR are left sitting around twiddling their thumbs all night they might as well be at home, and if you are lucky to be out mobile all they want to do is dump you at the first chance they get, now i have to say they are not all like that from what i have seen but there are many.

As for doing anything unfortunately we are a selfish bunch when it comes to doing anything, its the old motto im all right jack f**k you why should i risk what i have to help you fight your corner, the problem is they would also be helping themselves and future reserves coming along, all i have to say is thank god some of the reserves got FT this will help no matter how small these people will remember what it was like for them.

Kerry everything in this world is a nod and a wink and no matter what industry you go into more times than not people are related in some way so bullying does happen and the head is turned the other way, you have two choices and no matter what one you take you will lose out report it and be shuned and might as well leave or the second is just leave there is no third option anywhere as far as i would be concerned as the old saying goes you cant do right for doing wrong. chin up

Canyon86

kerry4sam wrote: »

Thanks, never knew that. Just another piece of ignorance by them.



The part in bold by me: Sorry but I was not aware that I would be subjected to this!
As for the comms room: nightmares man; I didn't sleep right for nights after one incident with the comms-room; praying to God I dealt with the incident okay. I was never supposed to be on my own in there, especially when 999-calls do come in! If anything did come back, I'm sure the full-time rostered on for there would've covered knowing I wasn't supposed to be in there on-my-own with limited pulse-access; no info of who was who; what was where; or who to contact when... :mad:

I wonder what they actually see for the GardaReserves though: As Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Thanks,
kerry4sam

Kerry,

It saddens me to hear about your bullying experience in the reserves,

I hope you have come out the better after it,

TallGlass

kerry4sam wrote: »

Still can't call it a joke though,
kerry4sam

I am a Reserve, from the get go it has been only what I can describe as a joke. Left waiting months/years on reply's, no leadership of Reserves, no one in AGS interested in us, compared to other professions and asked why don't they have reserves, still no public order powers years on which could see us utilised more. I don't have a problem with members I get along fine with most people in my station that's not the joke. Then the recruitment drive? That just left everyone with there jaws dropped.

I too just like you was asked to drive a car back the station, thankfully a full time member just offered to drive it back. Anyway I don't get sour over it I just get on with it in the hope it will one day change.

TallGlass

bluetop wrote: »

they either need to make the reserve force fit for purpose or just scrap it.

That is my thoughts on it and i am sure there is lots and lots that would be of the same opinion.

Totally agree, either make it fit for purpose or scrap it.

Canyon86

TallGlass wrote: »

I am a Reserve, from the get go it has been only what I can describe as a joke. Left waiting months/years on reply's, no leadership of Reserves, no one in AGS interested in us, compared to other professions and asked why don't they have reserves, still no public order powers years on which could see us utilised more. I don't have a problem with members I get along fine with most people in my station that's not the joke. Then the recruitment drive? That just left everyone with there jaws dropped.

I too just like you was asked to drive a car back the station, thankfully a full time member just offered to drive it back. Anyway I don't get sour over it I just get on with it in the hope it will one day change.

hi tall glass,

interesting comments,thanks for the insight!

how far did you get in the recruitment drive? and how long are you a GR?

RUNNER 1

anyone think there will be classes this year?

coolock94

i think there will be I will ring them up next week to ask about my BR form and classes for the year.

RUNNER 1

even if there is I'm sure we won't be on that list coolock lol

coolock94

speak for yourself I only have the one check left to complete ha

RUNNER 1

one check , so 2019 ul be in , be 2027 for me lol

Canyon86

dont put your life on hold for it lads aswell tho

RUNNER 1

I'm going back to college took a year out hoping I'd get called bigger fool me , I'd say I could get a call maybe next year but I'll be to busy to take it and sort of lost interest now.

coolock94

I'm still working away, I check every month on my BR form.

RUNNER 1

I rang 2day they said my vetting is done , bit no intakes dates have been set yet.

coolock94

How the feck are your forms cleared before mine. Said with absolutely no jealousy what so ever..... W*nker
haha fair play mate

Peppa Cig

coolock94 wrote: »

How the feck are your forms cleared before mine. Said with absolutely no jealousy what so ever ...... W*nker.

Maybe because your inclined to post AGS correspondence and swear at people on public internet forums?

coolock94

I'm clearly joking lighten up, me and runner have talked before about our wait.

Bloodwing

coolock94 wrote: »

I'm clearly joking lighten up, me and runner have talked before about our wait.

You've possibly shot yourself in the foot by posting correspondence containing your name here. Social media scares management and they do keep a close eye on it.

RUNNER 1

Ya I'm not sure coolock why, I think I sent mine off few months before you mite have something ta do with it , I won't be happy till I get a medical date.

coolock94

Im delighted for you mate, at least one of us is on the move. I read in another thread people suggesting that due to the people dropping out of the reserves that it would be forgotten about. I can't see that myself as far as I'm concerned there is a big waiting list of people who are eager to join.