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Saturday

  • 05-09-2014 8:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,956 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=3055424&category=0
    THANKS to the exploits of Sole Power and Slade Power, trainer Eddie Lynam has enjoyed a huge season with the unrelated sprinters sharing four Group 1s evenly between them.

    Sole Power bids to complete a clean sweep of top-level sprints in Britain this year for Lynam in Saturday's Betfred Sprint Cup, the seven-year-old victorious in the King's Stand Stakes and Nunthorpe Stakes this season.

    However, all of the seven-year-old's ten wins have been achieved over five furlongs and he goes into Saturday's race with a record of zero wins from seven runs over six furlongs.

    His best effort over the trip came at Sha Tin last December when he was beaten five lengths into second by Lord Kanaloa in the Hong Kong Sprint.

    Hughes said: "I am not the least bit worried about going up to six furlongs. Over the extra furlong he should find his job easier, and the same should be true for me as well.

    "He did not look to be running out of petrol at either Ascot or York, the drying ground is in his favour and Haydock's straight course is one of the easiest and flattest you could find."

    The going at Haydock dried out on Friday, and clerk of the course Kirkland Tellwright is expecting the fresh ground being used on Saturday to be quicker still.

    He said: "There is a chance of a light shower after racing today [Friday] but it is not certain and if it does arrive it will be light.

    "Looking to tomorrow when we switch to the stands' side track, the ground is likely to be good to firm."
    The form says no, but the heart and Richard Hughes say yes. What do folks here think? Personally, I'll be staying away. At 3/1 he's just that bit too skinny.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭bellybuster12


    I'm on gordon lord byron at 16/1, backed him before his last run anti post. I'm a huge fan and delighted to be on at a price. Looking at the race i think you can make a case for pretty much every horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,956 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    One I really fancy tomorrow is Joys Of Spring in the 4:40 at Ascot. I actually put this one into my tracker after watching it last time out and seeing a young apprentice being pulled all over the track by it. My very words were that if this horse got a better jockey who would be able to keep a firm hold and settle it better, then this would win. Well, looks like I've got the best pilot going on it, Ryan Moore takes the reins tomorrow. I know it has class and the straight mile should suit it better rather than a tight track which might let the horse run out wide like it did last time. The major worry in this race though will be Fray, which was only narrowly beaten by Water Hole on its last run, a horse that was narrowly beaten in a group 3 and is now rated 110. Have done Joys Of Spring to win at 7/1 (Corals) and Fray at 3/1 (Powers) to cover my stake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    Very troubled by sole power, only time ive backed against him is over 6f but the horse has looked different class this year. 3-1, as francie said, is just a bit too skinny. Gordon Lord Byron is the most proven horse in the field but the ground isnt ideal and looks worse value at 5-1. Might end up on Cougar Mountain without the Power. Tricky tricky race


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭Bangor Billy


    Gregk961 wrote: »
    Very troubled by sole power, only time ive backed against him is over 6f but the horse has looked different class this year. 3-1, as francie said, is just a bit too skinny. Gordon Lord Byron is the most proven horse in the field but the ground isnt ideal and looks worse value at 5-1. Might end up on Cougar Mountain without the Power. Tricky tricky race

    Or you could always back an English horse! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,956 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Gregk961 wrote: »
    Gordon Lord Byron is the most proven horse in the field but the ground isnt ideal and looks worse value at 5-1. Might end up on Cougar Mountain without the Power. Tricky tricky race
    Was only beaten by 3/4 of a length 2 years ago in this race over firm ground.

    I would not be going anywhere near Cougar Mountain, it's done alright in the other sprints this year, but these type of race demand experience and this horse only has 3 races under its belt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    Or you could always back an English horse! ;)

    Didnt realise my irish bias! Baccarat would be my pick of the brits!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭tryfix


    Gregk961 wrote: »
    Very troubled by sole power, only time ive backed against him is over 6f but the horse has looked different class this year. 3-1, as francie said, is just a bit too skinny. Gordon Lord Byron is the most proven horse in the field but the ground isnt ideal and looks worse value at 5-1. Might end up on Cougar Mountain without the Power. Tricky tricky race
    Yeah, he lacked a bit of early pace last time over 5f but was doing his best work at the finish, he ran better over 6f the time before and won't mind the ground and would have gone close the last day if there was another furlong in the race. At the price he's worth a shot, he'll probably place anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    I've been having a bit of an argument with a gentleman who thinks that Sole Power is the outstanding sprinter in the last 15 years. Sole Power probably has the best turn of foot of any horse over 5 furlongs in the last couple of years but when you're beating 114 rated horses you're entitled to win well.

    Hot Streak is too big at 20/1 for an each way price. Chancery at 14/1 in the Old Borough Cup another that's worth a chance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭curioser


    FWIW in a piece in Friday's Irish Indo, Eddie Lynam is quoted as saying about Sole Power "I'm not saying he'll definitely win at Haydock but he won't be beaten!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 JAORTA


    its pouring rain in Haydock....hold all bets on sole power


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭Bangor Billy


    It isn't just down the road in Wallasey. Bit of drizzle thats all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 JAORTA


    thats good news Billy....so there should be no change to the going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭Dubron


    I'm doing a rain dance anyway, love Sole Power but cant back him over 6, have had a decent each way bet on Gordon Lord Byron at 6/1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    I'd take Extortionaist and Tropics each way in the Sprint Cup personally.

    Is there much pace in the field? Who'll take them along?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Two against the field today in the Sprint Cup, Baccarat e/w 14/1 (Hills) and Professor e/w 40/1 (Hills).

    Expect one to at least place and cover my outlay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    I am told connections expect a great run from Professor and his odds of 40/1 are very unlikely to be available at 3.45 today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭tomaussie


    I am told connections expect a great run from Professor and his odds of 40/1 are very unlikely to be available at 3.45 today.

    That's mad Ted.

    What odds are likely to be available ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    tomaussie wrote: »
    That's mad Ted.

    What odds are likely to be available ?

    Expect it to go off around 20/1.

    You heard it here first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Gordon Lord Byron for me. Sole Power is a ridiculous price. He's not a 6 furlong horse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Hot Streak at 38.9 for me, although he might struggle to get the 6f in this company.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    I hope you remembered to do the Scoop 6. It is about £6 million.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,162 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    4.10 Home of The Brave.

    Surely Manning is not going for the one ride unless it's supposed to win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Expect it to go off around 20/1.

    You heard it here first.

    It would take a lot to halve the price of a horse in a gr.1. Will probably go off 33/1 or so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭tomaussie


    It would take a lot to halve the price of a horse in a gr.1. Will probably go off 33/1 or so

    No. No. No.

    Inside information.

    You heard it up there first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Morleystreet


    Surprised they aren't keeping sole power for 5f at curragh tomorrow week. On that basis thinking they must be confident today so will take my chances on him over the 6f.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Just because sole was doing his best work late last time out doesnt make him a 6f chance. I fear he will be out of the places.

    I am told Professor will make the frame and Bacarrat too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Just because sole was doing his best work late last time out doesnt make him a 6f chance. I fear he will be out of the places.
    I am told Professor will make the frame and Bacarrat too.
    Sounds like an opportunity to place lay the other 15 in the field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,956 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Jim Goldie send Hawkeyethenoo over 400 miles to Ascot as his sole representative. Think this one looks quite nicely handicapped and fancy it e/w for a bit of interest at 22/1/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    I've been having a bit of an argument with a gentleman who thinks that Sole Power is the outstanding sprinter in the last 15 years. Sole Power probably has the best turn of foot of any horse over 5 furlongs in the last couple of years but when you're beating 114 rated horses you're entitled to win well.

    Better than Dayjur?? :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Heavy Metal a big price at 12/1 in this after one bad run last time. Not had a bet though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    diomed wrote: »
    Sounds like an opportunity to place lay the other 15 in the field.

    Load up the reverse forecast while your at it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,485 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    One I really fancy tomorrow is Joys Of Spring in the 4:40 at Ascot. I actually put this one into my tracker after watching it last time out and seeing a young apprentice being pulled all over the track by it. My very words were that if this horse got a better jockey who would be able to keep a firm hold and settle it better, then this would win. Well, looks like I've got the best pilot going on it, Ryan Moore takes the reins tomorrow. I know it has class and the straight mile should suit it better rather than a tight track which might let the horse run out wide like it did last time. The major worry in this race though will be Fray, which was only narrowly beaten by Water Hole on its last run, a horse that was narrowly beaten in a group 3 and is now rated 110. Have done Joys Of Spring to win at 7/1 (Corals) and Fray at 3/1 (Powers) to cover my stake.

    Fancy Joys of Spring too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Oh fingers burnt there. Redvers done at 1.01, in fact when he passed the line the blue side was totally blank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    That ground looks very soft at Haydock

    Well not very but it's definitely on the easy side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    Ideal for a certain Slade Power and not Sole


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,981 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    4.10 Home of The Brave.

    Surely Manning is not going for the one ride unless it's supposed to win.

    looks the bet of the day to me
    on that last night at 6/4, no idea of price now as blocked at work
    could be very good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    That ground looks very soft at Haydock

    Well not very but it's definitely on the easy side

    It's all good for Gordon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    That ground looks very soft at Haydock

    Well not very but it's definitely on the easy side

    the current 40/1 available about Maarek EW 4 places 1/4 on Betvictor is huge given the softer ground. I also have Pearl Secret at 33 as well, both will be much better on this softer ground..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    aidankkk wrote: »
    the current 40/1 available about Maarek EW 4 places 1/4 on Betvictor is huge given the softer ground. I also have Pearl Secret at 33 as well, both will be much better on this softer ground..

    Maarek has shortened up a lot now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    aidankkk wrote: »
    the current 40/1 available about Maarek EW 4 places 1/4 on Betvictor is huge given the softer ground. I also have Pearl Secret at 33 as well, both will be much better on this softer ground..

    Took 40s earlier. Happy now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    Took 40s earlier. Happy now.

    Still 40/1 with 365 and 4 places 1/4 odds great value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Still 40/1 with 365 and 4 places 1/4 odds great value

    Cheers will top up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Think Hot Streak is a much better price than Pearl Secret. Pearl Secret will never win a gr.1 I think and at the start of the season I thought he might on soft. He had no excuses when Hot Streak beat him earlier in the season and I'd backed Pearl that day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    didn't atheraces use to show all ascot races? did they lose the rights?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Don't see Maarek figuring but good luck to everybody in the big race.

    My two are Baccarat and Professor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    It's surprising that Sole Power isn't on the drift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    didn't atheraces use to show all ascot races? did they lose the rights?

    Ascot decided to go with Racing UK when their contract with ATR ended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Money steaming in for Sole Power, going to go off 11/4 or 5/2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Money steaming in for Sole Power, going to go off 11/4 or 5/2

    4.4 on betdaq


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    4.5 on BF and the bookies cut him to 5/2. Shocking


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