VPN's

LukeyKid

Hi im just after realizing that i'm being throttled by my ISP from 20mb/s to 1.5mb/s on bittorrent.

And i was wondering is there and good free VPN's that support Ireland, Im only 18 and im broke most of the time so paying for one isent an option unless pretty cheap and worth it. :P

blackbullet

try this zenmate its only for chrome i use it all the time

Mr. G

LukeyKid wrote: »

Hi im just after realizing that i'm being throttled by my ISP from 20mb/s to 1.5mb/s on bittorrent.

And i was wondering is there and good free VPN's that support Ireland, Im only 18 and im broke most of the time so paying for one isent an option unless pretty cheap and worth it. :P

Depends on who's sharing it. Some torrents can be very slow and that's due to other uploader's upload speed, rather than your download speed. Someone must upload it to you.

LukeyKid

Mr. G wrote: »

Depends on who's sharing it. Some torrents can be very slow and that's due to other uploader's upload speed, rather than your download speed. Someone must upload it to you.

I understand how it works no it wasn't to do with do with there speed, I restarted my computer just to make sure that everything was working right.
And went straight on to speed test.net and i was getting 17+ mb/s which is normal.
Then i went and opened up Bittorrent and then back straight down to 1.5mb/s repeated this 4 -5 times happened every time i opened up bittorrent or utorrent.


Blackbullet: Ill try that thank you

LukeyKid

Really like some help, any other way to stop this throttling its getting really bad at less then a MB the hole time and its really annoying.

helimachoptor

Are you sure your BitTorrent app isn't throttling itself? There are defaults on how many torrents you can download and what's the max speed the application can use, have you changed these?

LukeyKid

helimachoptor wrote: »

Are you sure your BitTorrent app isn't throttling itself? There are defaults on how many torrents you can download and what's the max speed the application can use, have you changed these?

Nope i changed nothing and i'm using http://www.speedtest.net/ to check my internet speed and this is what is drop from 17mb to 1.5 when ever i open utorrent or bittorrent.

Mr. G

LukeyKid wrote: »

I understand how it works no it wasn't to do with do with there speed, I restarted my computer just to make sure that everything was working right.
And went straight on to speed test.net and i was getting 17+ mb/s which is normal.
Then i went and opened up Bittorrent and then back straight down to 1.5mb/s repeated this 4 -5 times happened every time i opened up bittorrent or utorrent.


Blackbullet: Ill try that thank you

Try torrenting CentOS and see how it downloads. There are usually a lot of uploaders on those to rule out issues with a particular torrent.

Don't forget the difference between MB/s and Mb/s, 8 bits in a byte. Bittorent measures speed in bytes, so 1.5MB/s = 12Mbps, which on a 17Mbps connection isn't bad.

LukeyKid

Mr. G wrote: »

Try torrenting CentOS and see how it downloads. There are usually a lot of uploaders on those to rule out issues with a particular torrent.

Don't forget the difference between MB/s and Mb/s, 8 bits in a byte. Bittorent measures speed in bytes, so 1.5MB/s = 12Mbps, which on a 17Mbps connection isn't bad.

Okay thanks That is working better im getting 1MB/s on that so why is my internet speed on speedtest.net going down to like 1.5 Mb/s and lower ?

28064212

LukeyKid wrote: »

Okay thanks That is working better im getting 1MB/s on that so why is my internet speed on speedtest.net going down to like 1.5 Mb/s and lower ?

Are you downloading torrents while testing your speed? Speedtest only checks how fast you can download from their site, if you're downloading torrents at the same time, you won't have the same amount of bandwidth available to download from them

Spear

Just to proactively note something to avoid any grief here, discussion of VPNs is allowed, but discussion of VPNs to enable copyright infringment or any unauthorised access isn't, so bear this in mind.

LukeyKid

Spear wrote: »

Just to proactively note something to avoid any grief here, discussion of VPNs is allowed, but discussion of VPNs to enable copyright infringment or any unauthorised access isn't, so bear this in mind.

Not being smart but does downloading torrents automatically mean illegal activity ?

Xantia

LukeyKid wrote: »

Not being smart but does downloading torrents automatically mean illegal activity ?

I download Linux versions using torrents all the time, also Raspberry Pi images.

LukeyKid

Xantia wrote: »

I download Linux versions using torrents all the time, also Raspberry Pi images.

But that's what i mean its not when ever some says bittorrent or utorrent its straight away suspected to be illegal activity.

Seamus1964

Using knife to cut slice of bread is legal, cutting somebody's head off with it - not so legal.
Its not when ever some says knife or axe its straight away suspected to be illegal activity.

MichealKenny

1. You are not being throttled, torrents max out at ~1.5MB/s
2. If your internet is over 10Mbps, consider Usenet.

Why you ask?

massy086

or just learn how to use xbmc. The best thinks in life are free

degsie

I used to download Linux distros, now I just stream them....

MichealKenny

you mean now you just netinstall them right?

BigEejit

If the OP is torrenting without using a VPN or similar then he could be in for a rude surprise. An expensive rude surprise.

For people who do actually have a few quid, I strongly suggest using a VPN for many reasons, 2 of them are:
When your ISP looks at your data crossing their servers and it is encrypted they usually will not throttle you if they cannot identify what you are doing (but they may throttle because of raw usage).
If you want to browse without having NSA, GCHQ or other feckers looking at what you are doing then VPN is the job... or TOR ... but TOR is looking a bit ropey at the moment.

Not all VPN's are the same. Make sure that no usage logs are stored (many keep connection logs for a short while) and pick a country that allows a lot more personal privacy, like Holland. I use cactusvpn and this is the kind of thing you should be looking for https://www.cactusvpn.com/support/faq-general/#q7

LukeyKid

BigEejit wrote: »

If the OP is torrenting without using a VPN or similar then he could be in for a rude surprise. An expensive rude surprise.

For people who do actually have a few quid, I strongly suggest using a VPN for many reasons, 2 of them are:
When your ISP looks at your data crossing their servers and it is encrypted they usually will not throttle you if they cannot identify what you are doing (but they may throttle because of raw usage).
If you want to browse without having NSA, GCHQ or other feckers looking at what you are doing then VPN is the job... or TOR ... but TOR is looking a bit ropey at the moment.

Not all VPN's are the same. Make sure that no usage logs are stored (many keep connection logs for a short while) and pick a country that allows a lot more personal privacy, like Holland. I use cactusvpn and this is the kind of thing you should be looking for https://www.cactusvpn.com/support/faq-general/#q7

Okay thanks everyone for the help and im after getting the free trial for cactusVPN and i was just wondering whats the best protocol

PPTP , L2TP , OpenVPN , SSTP

Seamus1964

Is there any other VPN /SmartDNS service providers who allows more countries - like Finland, Denmark,Germany... etc?
Most of them offers only USA and UK + 2-3 more countries.

wiz569

Seamus1964 wrote: »

Is there any other VPN /SmartDNS service providers who allows more countries - like Finland, Denmark,Germany... etc?
Most of them offers only USA and UK + 2-3 more countries.

I use ghostpath,it has approx 40 different countries

BigEejit

LukeyKid wrote: »

Okay thanks everyone for the help and im after getting the free trial for cactusVPN and i was just wondering whats the best protocol

PPTP , L2TP , OpenVPN , SSTP

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=The+Differences+Between+PPTP%2C+L2TP%2FIPSec%2C+SSTP+and+OpenVPN+Connection

BigEejit

Seamus1964 wrote: »

Is there any other VPN /SmartDNS service providers who allows more countries - like Finland, Denmark,Germany... etc?
Most of them offers only USA and UK + 2-3 more countries.

Instead of looking at the number of countries I looked at the privacy standards and risk of my data getting into the wrong hands of the countries themselves.

Have a look at http://nomadcapitalist.com/2013/12/15/top-5-best-countries-host-website-data-privacy/ and ended up using the Netherlands because it has a very high privacy standard while also having excellent peering. Other countries that have high privacy standards are Norway and Romania.

LukeyKid

BigEejit wrote: »

Instead of looking at the number of countries I looked at the privacy standards and risk of my data getting into the wrong hands of the countries themselves.

Have a look at http://nomadcapitalist.com/2013/12/15/top-5-best-countries-host-website-data-privacy/ and ended up using the Netherlands because it has a very high privacy standard while also having excellent peering. Other countries that have high privacy standards are Norway and Romania.

Thanks for the help but id like to try this out with out having to pay but there very limited in the trial and i cant get a good connection.

BigEejit

I use Amsterdam 5 from cactusvpn and going full belt I get about 4 - 4.5MB/s (60mbit broadband)

LukeyKid

BigEejit wrote: »

I use Amsterdam 5 from cactusvpn and going full belt I get about 4 - 4.5MB/s (60mbit broadband)

The reason i want one is so i can have my full 17MB/s all the time so i cant be throttled and i can browse and download an little more private.

degsie

LukeyKid wrote: »

The reason i want one is so i can have my full 17MB/s all the time so i cant be throttled and i can browse and download an little more private.

You mean 17mb/s, right?

LukeyKid

BigEejit wrote: »

I use Amsterdam 5 from cactusvpn and going full belt I get about 4 - 4.5MB/s (60mbit broadband)

degsie wrote: »

You mean 17mb/s, right?

Okay i'm just after reading about this because there is clearly a big difference :P

But im still a little confused about it, So my broadband speed is 17 megabits/sec so i'm getting 2.1 megabyte download speed ? correct ?

wiz569

LukeyKid wrote: »

Okay i'm just after reading about this because there is clearly a big difference :P

But im still a little confused about it, So my broadband speed is 17 megabits/sec so i'm getting 2.1 megabyte download speed ? correct ?

Correct m8

LukeyKid

wiz569 wrote: »

Correct m8

Yes im getting there thanks

BigEejit

When you have a VPN going, it will use some of your bandwidth for the encryption, I dont know how much though tbh. You will notice that my 60mb only gives 4 -4.5MB when it should be closer to 8MB but VPN's rarely give me line speed because my network provider plus their servers throttle my maximum back a bit.

LukeyKid

wiz569 wrote: »

Correct m8

BigEejit wrote: »

When you have a VPN going, it will use some of your bandwidth for the encryption, I dont know how much though tbh. You will notice that my 60mb only gives 4 -4.5MB when it should be closer to 8MB but VPN's rarely give me line speed because my network provider plus their servers throttle my maximum back a bit.

Okay fair enough but with my 20mb broadband i lose quiet a bit of speed and its slower then usual i only have main problems when using bittorrent so i dont no if thats a big enough issue to get a vpn it has went bad a couple of times on youtube and facebook but its not that bad in general. so if it get worse i will really consider a vpn.

28064212

LukeyKid wrote: »

Okay fair enough but with my 20mb broadband i lose quiet a bit of speed and its slower then usual i only have main problems when using bittorrent

How would a VPN help? From what you're saying, your general browsing is slow while you have bittorrent open? That's because bittorrent is using most of your bandwidth. A VPN will not change that

degsie

LukeyKid wrote: »

But im still a little confused about it, So my broadband speed is 17 megabits/sec so i'm getting 2.1 megabyte download speed ? correct ?

Transmission rates (adsl/fibre/mobile etc) are measured on Mb/s. Data transfer rates (eg. pc file copy) are measured in MB/s.

LukeyKid

28064212 wrote: »

How would a VPN help? From what you're saying, your general browsing is slow while you have bittorrent open? That's because bittorrent is using most of your bandwidth. A VPN will not change that

No i don't mean mean while i'm using bit torrent i just mean once bit torrent is open my internet gets really slow it doesn't have to be downloading anything. And yes its the proper bit torrent.

28064212

LukeyKid wrote: »

No i don't mean mean while i'm using bit torrent i just mean once bit torrent is open my internet gets really slow it doesn't have to be downloading anything. And yes its the proper bit torrent.

If you're not actively torrenting at the time, how could your ISP be throttling you? Your ISP can't tell whether the bittorrent application is open or not

wiz569

LukeyKid wrote: »

No i don't mean mean while i'm using bit torrent i just mean once bit torrent is open my internet gets really slow it doesn't have to be downloading anything. And yes its the proper bit torrent.

If not downloading anything are you seeding (uploading) anything?

If not and it only happens when you open your bit torrent client,I would suspect malware of some kind m8

degsie

Maxing out your upload speeds will kill your download. Ack packets need to be sent in your upload stream so squeezing them because of upload constraints will affect download.