Unsuspecting women post nude selfies in solidarity with Jennifer Lawrence

icecold1066

On twitter the evil perverts of the website known as 4chan have started a bogus twitter meme called #LeakForJLaw. Apparently they have fooled countless numbers of unsuspecting women who have posted their own nude selfies on twitter in "solidarity" with Jennifer Lawrence and other actresses who have had their phones hacked.
A poster on the 4chan site is the suspected hacker who began boasting sometime ago about a cache of accumulated photos. When other posters started calling his bluff he leaked several photos and then finally released hundreds of photos in a what has been dubbed "The Fappening."
The perverts have had a good week.

The moral of the story is do NOT take naked selfies on your phone people!

metaoblivia

Hate to be that person, but I don't think the moral of this story is to not take naked selfies on your phone. It's not illegal to take naked photos of yourself and share them with someone you trust. What is illegal is hacking into someone's phone/computer and stealing pictures that don't belong you and sharing them on the internet.

I hope they catch the guy responsible, and I hope he is punished accordingly for his crime. And I hope our society continues to evolve so that eventually the moral we take away isn't to curtail legal behavior, but to hold perpetrators legally and socially responsible for their illegal behavior.

i.e The moral of the story is DO NOT steal images you have no rights to and then distribute them across the Internet.

baby and crumble

metaoblivia wrote: »

i.e The moral of the story is DO NOT steal images you have no rights to and then distribute them across the Internet.

This. Everyone seems to be talking about people not taking naked pics of themselves. Fewer people are talking about the theft of property, which this is. Since the dawn of cameras, people have used them to take naked pictures of themselves and their lovers. There is NOTHING wrong with taking pics like this, but there is something wrong with stealing them from someone else.

YumCha

RacoonQueen

I'm afraid I'm in the camp of ''why on earth would you upload nude selfies and sex videos to the cloud''. You are in the public eye, you are always, always going to be a target. You can argue the rights and wrongs of stealing someones photos all day long but at the end of the day, this is the internet society we live in. Nothing is secure on the internet.

Hacking is a real thing, it's happening all the time. If you put stuff somewhere on the internet, even in a protected account, you ARE taking a risk.

Women are more vulnerable to this than men because, I guess our bodies are more or a sexual thing than mens. If it was a mans selfies no one would bat an eyelid.

I'm not a selfies person full stop, I don't understand the whole concept of taking nudie pictures of yourself and either leaving them on your phone or sending them to someone.

Lyaiera

Fair play to the women releasing pictures of themselves in support of the celebrities. Even if it was meant to fool them it's a great show of solidarity with the celebrities. As long as there's no nomination of people. I do hope the celebrities have the will of mind to laugh off the actions of these morons because it's such an invasive thing to have happened. Find them, prosecute them, but laugh at them as pathetic.

My family have nudes of my grandmother, really artistically done by her sister halfway up a mountain, by a tarn in the early 50s. It makes me so proud that that's in my family history, and celebrated by my family.

icecold1066

Lyaiera wrote: »

Fair play to the women releasing pictures of themselves in support of the celebrities. Even if it was meant to fool them it's a great show of solidarity with the celebrities. As long as there's no nomination of people. I do hope the celebrities have the will of mind to laugh off the actions of these morons because it's such an invasive thing to have happened. Find them, prosecute them, but laugh at them as pathetic.

My family have nudes of my grandmother, really artistically done by her sister halfway up a mountain, by a tarn in the early 50s. It makes me so proud that that's in my family history, and celebrated by my family.

I've seen many of the photos and these are not artistic photos.
Jennifer Lawrence was sending naked photos to her boyfriends. One photo shows her posing naked with a girlfriend who maybe more than just a friend.
Not to mention one photo shows her with semen all over her face.
The hacker is threatening to release a video of her performing fellatio.

Lawrence's mainstream film career is basically destroyed.

Chloe Sevigny and Margo Stilley ruined their acting careers by starring in movies with unsimulated sex scenes.

Anything you put on the internet can be viewed. Unless you have been living under a rock you would know that the media employ hackers and the US government has basically hacked the entire internet.

If you are a public figure or indeed a private citizen you are compromised and wide open to blackmail if you post naked selfies and sex pics and videos online.

If someone becomes famous in the future in entertainment, sport and of course in politics EVERYTHING you ever did online could conceivably be exposed.

Young women like Lawrence and indeed teenagers are increasingly living their sex lives online. Couples trade nude pics and sex pics.

If one of these young women grew up to become a teacher or prime minister in the future a video clip could emerge from decades later so their pupils or voters could know what kind of vibrator they use.

In the past Mafia capos never used home telephones because they knew someone was listening. Today mafia tough guy wannabes have not been able to resist the temptation to post pics of their fancy cars and girls online. Mafia omerta was always "Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut."

Saying that nobody should steal personal data is like asking water not to be wet.

Lyaiera

What's your point? I just said I hope they're not too upset by the invasion of privacy and can see the guys who released the image as the morons they are. And that there's nothing wrong with taking nude photos of yourself, it's been happening for ages.

RacoonQueen

RacoonQueen wrote: »

I'm afraid I'm in the camp of ''why on earth would you upload nude selfies and sex videos to the cloud''. You are in the public eye, you are always, always going to be a target. You can argue the rights and wrongs of stealing someones photos all day long but at the end of the day, this is the internet society we live in. Nothing is secure on the internet.

Hacking is a real thing, it's happening all the time. If you put stuff somewhere on the internet, even in a protected account, you ARE taking a risk.

Women are more vulnerable to this than men because, I guess our bodies are more or a sexual thing than mens. If it was a mans selfies no one would bat an eyelid.

I'm not a selfies person full stop, I don't understand the whole concept of taking nudie pictures of yourself and either leaving them on your phone or sending them to someone.

Pretty much all this!

HeyyMeow

Long time lurker decided to get my two cents in.

I can honestly hold my hands up and say that I have sent my fiance some personal pictures of myself. I really don't see what is wrong with sending some pictures between a partner etc. I think the problem is people invading others privacy.

When people say things like "Well she shouldn't of taken naked selfies it's her own fault". I think they are wrong. Why should we have to stop doing things to stop people acting the d**k. It's like people are saying "Oh you got your purse robbed but its your own fault because you brought it out of the house" or "Your Facebook got hacked and private messages seen well I guess you shouldn't of set it up in the first place".

Depending on her phones settings photos might upload automatically to cloud or maybe she took them on her laptop and uploaded them to cloud to send over her phone but SO WHAT! At the end of the day it's her life. The people in the wrong are the hackers.

I don't think her career is ruined, she seems like the sort of person to be strong enough to overcome a lot.

metaoblivia

I found this article on Forbes today and I think it makes some very good points, especially about the women who were victimized not apologizing. I hope not a single one of them does: http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/09/01/jennifer-lawrence-nude-photo-leak-isnt-a-scandal-its-a-sex-crime/

paddy1990

metaoblivia wrote: »

Hate to be that person, but I don't think the moral of this story is to not take naked selfies on your phone. It's not illegal to take naked photos of yourself and share them with someone you trust. What is illegal is hacking into someone's phone/computer and stealing pictures that don't belong you and sharing them on the internet.

I hope they catch the guy responsible, and I hope he is punished accordingly for his crime. And I hope our society continues to evolve so that eventually the moral we take away isn't to curtail legal behavior, but to hold perpetrators legally and socially responsible for their illegal behavior.

i.e The moral of the story is DO NOT steal images you have no rights to and then distribute them across the Internet.

Fair post but how far do you go?

If I go into a shop and leave the keys in my car and some guy robs my car, am I at fault? Should I continue to leave the keys in my car when I go into shops, knowing that some bad people will rob my car if they can?

metaoblivia

paddy1990 wrote: »

Fair post but how far do you go?

If I go into a shop and leave the keys in my car and some guy robs my car, am I at fault? Should I continue to leave the keys in my car when I go into shops, knowing that some bad people will rob my car if they can?

The blame always lies with the party committing the illegal act. Does that mean people shouldn't take precautions? Not at all.

I live in Oakland, one of the most crime ridden cities in the US. Every day when I walk outside and my car is still there with no broken windows, it's a victory. I take every precaution I can to prevent my car from being stolen, including locking the doors, putting an Orlando Magic bumper sticker on the back, and leaving nothing inside the car, ever. But once, I had a passenger who, when he got out, forgot to the lock the passenger door and I forgot to check it. So my car sat on the streets of Oakland for 3 days with an unlocked door.

Fortunately nothing happened (probably because of the Orlando Magic bumper sticker), but had my car been stolen and had I gone to the police and explained the situation, would they be in the right to tell me, "Well, we're not going to investigate because it's really your fault since you forgot to lock the passenger door?"

Absolutely not. I may have made a foolish decision, but that doesn't mean I'm at fault. The person engaging in illegal behavior is at fault, always, and they should always be the one held up for the most condemnation. When you excuse people for engaging in illegal activity, you are sending the message that it's okay to prey upon people as long as they're "dumb," that being "dumb" is a bigger moral failing than following the law. I don't agree with that. Yes, we should all strive to be "smart" and protect ourselves from crime, but chances are, seeing as we're human, we're all likely going to fail at some point. That doesn't mean the law should stop working for us in those moments. In fact, those moments are precisely when we need the law to remind us that, yes, we made a foolish decision, but the person in the wrong is the person who chose to take advantage of that.

This article explains what I just said above much more articulately: http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/09/01/what-if-we-just-held-men-accountable-for-their-own-behavior/#dAPsajm4egAAVBUe.99

Jack B. Badd

icecold1066 wrote: »

I've seen many of the photos and these are not artistic photos.
Jennifer Lawrence was sending naked photos to her boyfriends. One photo shows her posing naked with a girlfriend who maybe more than just a friend.
Not to mention one photo shows her with semen all over her face.
The hacker is threatening to release a video of her performing fellatio.

Lawrence's mainstream film career is basically destroyed.

Oh ffs, it's just sex. I very much doubt her film career is "destroyed".

The above is a blatant attempt to further restrict a woman's right to her own image through shame - this photo is deemed to be acceptable because it's "artistic", but that one is a career-destroying scandal because I don't like the idea of a young woman giving head.

I dont understand how women could be posting in solidarity and unsuspecting...?

icecold1066

Lyaiera wrote: »

What's your point? I just said I hope they're not too upset by the invasion of privacy and can see the guys who released the image as the morons they are. And that there's nothing wrong with taking nude photos of yourself, it's been happening for ages.

Nothing wrong with it. But don't expect to advance in life. That's simply the reality.

Princess Peach

icecold1066 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it. But don't expect to advance in life. That's simply the reality.

Why, because she has sex?

I think JL is too beloved of hollywood and people in general for this to affect anything, and it shouldn't affect her.
The only reactions I've seen are 1/ this is hot 2/ that poor girl 3/ Be careful about your naked selfies, everyone and 4/ icloud really needs to be looked at for its security

Sure she nearly starts most of her interviews with "lol, just did shots" and it's funny, not that disgrace out drinking...

http://i.imgur.com/c3CVP7m.jpg

icecold1066

Jack B. Badd wrote: »

Oh ffs, it's just sex. I very much doubt her film career is "destroyed".

The above is a blatant attempt to further restrict a woman's right to her own image through shame - this photo is deemed to be acceptable because it's "artistic", but that one is a career-destroying scandal because I don't like the idea of a young woman giving head.

Give me a break. Her career is destroyed. She'll be doing straight to video garbage in a year or so and end up in rehab when she descends into a drink and drug hell.

Society is judgmental. Always has and always will. Lawrence was the sweetie pie girl next door and now she will be seen as a whore.

Riskymove

baby and crumble wrote: »

This. Everyone seems to be talking about people not taking naked pics of themselves. Fewer people are talking about the theft of property, which this is. Since the dawn of cameras, people have used them to take naked pictures of themselves and their lovers. There is NOTHING wrong with taking pics like this, but there is something wrong with stealing them from someone else.

unfortunately concepts of "right and wrong" don't protect you from theft and embarrassment in cases like this

the advent of digital storage and now online or remote accessible storage means people need to be aware of the risks

She'll be grand. There were a few 'Disney girls' with photos too, they'll have more to worry about id say..

Princess Peach

icecold1066 wrote: »

Give me a break. Her career is destroyed. She'll be doing straight to video garbage in a year or so and end up in rehab when she descends into a drink and drug hell.

Society is judgmental. Always has and always will. Lawrence was the sweetie pie girl next door and now she will be seen as a whore.

How is she a whore for taking nude photos?? It's not like she was caught on the street trying to sell herself.

I had to look it up there, it was 1995 that Hugh Grant was caught with a prostitute, well before a lot of his biggest movie hits.

Also I don't think I've ever seen her in a movie role as the "sweetie pie girl next door" anyway?

She wasnt exactly playing sweetie pie in Hustle , iirc

icecold1066

Princess Peach wrote: »

Why, because she has sex?

This is how the psychology of female celebrity works.

Everyone wants to f*ck Jennifer Lawrence.
Now we have proof that she was f*cked so she is considered used goods.

The same thing happens when actresses marry and have children. They are now mommys and no longer considered desirable. The starring roles dry up and they can only act as tough office bitches, evil queens or loving comedy moms.

Cameron Diaz has not married or had children and can convincingly as a hot babe in her 40s.

Meanwhile Angelina Jolie has had a double mastectomy. Now she can only hope that Meryl Streep dies and she succeeds her as the grand Dame of Hollywood.

Lauren Bacall is another example. She began her career as the smoking hot femme fatale and ended her career acting in caring grandmotherly roles. When her on screen innocence could not be maintained she had to change or her career was over.

Men still want a woman to be intact - innocent, never seen or held a penis, never been penetrated etc etc.

Porn scenes always end with a cum facial because the woman is destroyed, transformed into a whore and discarded.

That is the essence of female objectification.

Taylor Swift has survived so long because we know so little about her sex life and she remains demure.

IvyTheTerrible

So let me get this straight.

Jennifer Lawrence takes naked pictures of herself to send to her boyfriend. They are stored on a supposedly private server, someone illegally hacks into it and illegally makes those pictures public, and it's Jennifer Lawrence's fault? And her career is over?

You've got to be ****ing kidding me. :mad:

icecold1066

bluewolf wrote: »

She wasnt exactly playing sweetie pie in Hustle , iirc

The excitement of Hustle was that she was a sweetheart actress playing a whore. Not a "whore" for real. She has crossed the psychological line and has become used goods.

icecold1066

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

So let me get this straight.

Jennifer Lawrence takes naked pictures of herself to send to her boyfriend. They are stored on a supposedly private server, someone illegally hacks into it and illegally makes those pictures public, and it's Jennifer Lawrence's fault? And her career is over?

You've got to be ****ing kidding me. :mad:

That's how it works.

Her pics were probably released because she and other actresses are part of the stable.

A rival movie executive probably arranged this to destroy an enemy in the movie industry by literally smearing the stars that he spent money and time building up.

In the past stars like Rock Hudson, James Dean and Montgomery Clift were protected by meatheads who used bats and guns to intimidate photographers who took pictures would have exposed them as queers.

There are no major male stars on the silver screen who are gay. Name one and tell me if he could act as James Bond or as a cowboy or as a space hero?

Men must still be men and women are still expected to be demure, desirable angels.

I suspect that same thing is happening today.

This is the equivalent of the horse's head in Jack Woltz's bed.

Morgase

Her career isn't ruined. She's very popular with the younger crowd, who are possibly more likely than people my age (wrong side of 30!) to be taking nude selfies with their partners. I can well imagine that people will be able to empathise with her, and thinking "sure she was only doing what we all do".

paddy1990

metaoblivia wrote: »

The blame always lies with the party committing the illegal act. Does that mean people shouldn't take precautions? Not at all.

I live in Oakland, one of the most crime ridden cities in the US. Every day when I walk outside and my car is still there with no broken windows, it's a victory. I take every precaution I can to prevent my car from being stolen, including locking the doors, putting an Orlando Magic bumper sticker on the back, and leaving nothing inside the car, ever. But once, I had a passenger who, when he got out, forgot to the lock the passenger door and I forgot to check it. So my car sat on the streets of Oakland for 3 days with an unlocked door.

Fortunately nothing happened (probably because of the Orlando Magic bumper sticker), but had my car been stolen and had I gone to the police and explained the situation, would they be in the right to tell me, "Well, we're not going to investigate because it's really your fault since you forgot to lock the passenger door?"

Absolutely not. I may have made a foolish decision, but that doesn't mean I'm at fault. The person engaging in illegal behavior is at fault, always, and they should always be the one held up for the most condemnation. When you excuse people for engaging in illegal activity, you are sending the message that it's okay to prey upon people as long as they're "dumb," that being "dumb" is a bigger moral failing than following the law. I don't agree with that. Yes, we should all strive to be "smart" and protect ourselves from crime, but chances are, seeing as we're human, we're all likely going to fail at some point. That doesn't mean the law should stop working for us in those moments. In fact, those moments are precisely when we need the law to remind us that, yes, we made a foolish decision, but the person in the wrong is the person who chose to take advantage of that.

This article explains what I just said above much more articulately: http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/09/01/what-if-we-just-held-men-accountable-for-their-own-behavior/#dAPsajm4egAAVBUe.99

Of course the law should protect people but at some point common sense has to prevail.

There is a reason you don't intentionally leave the keys in your car or intentionally leave the front door unlocked when you go to sleep.

There will always be robbers/hackers and that element of humanity has always existed and always will.

Once you know that, then exposing yourself like intentionally leaving the door open or leaving the keys in your car, or intentionally putting private photos in a place they can be hacked, becomes a bit stupid.

icecold1066

Morgase wrote: »

Her career isn't ruined. She's very popular with the younger crowd, who are possibly more likely than people my age (wrong side of 30!) to be taking nude selfies with their partners. I can well imagine that people will be able to empathise with her, and thinking "sure she was only doing what we all do".

That is naive at best.

She is competing against untainted hayseed actresses who are pouring in front Iowa and Wyoming and Tennessee all the time.

Why would a studio risk losing millions on a movie because the leading actress has been photographed with cum on her face when you can replace her with some other girl?

The same thing happens with male stars who are outted as gay. It is a career killer.

MissFlitworth

Are they going to reshoot the Hunger Games so to cast an Iowan ingenue in it? Because she's a pretty big part of that series and the last 2 are out next year & the year after.

I think a lot of younger people will identify with what's happened to Jennifer Lawrence, learning that what you thought was private is surely not has been an experience that a few people I know in their early 20s have had to go through.