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New Supervision and Substitution Circular

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  • #32
    jamie124
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭jamie124


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    Oh there is three on the hallways but they aren't simply straight lines and you simply cannot see the whole section you are responsible for at all times

    Sounds bad, but at least they actually turn up in your school to supervise, In my school the teachers ( when they are bothered enough to turn up) can see both corners of the corridor it's hard to explain...


  • #33
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    jamie124 wrote: »
    Sounds bad, but at least they actually turn up in your school to supervise, In my school the teachers ( when they are bothered enough to turn up) can see both corners of the corridor it's hard to explain...

    How do you know they aren't bothered though? It is equally likely that there is just not enough people to have someone rostered every day. As Seavill said, the fact the DP is regularly covering supervision himself now you have complained makes that seem the most likely scenario. This is a consequence of the changes made to supervision and substitution arrangements by the government.

    The situation is not satisfactory and you are right to make management aware of your concerns, but I don't think your assumptions are going to help your case.


  • #34
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,383 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    If a school has 15 possible points that need to be watched and 8 teachers who have not paid to get out of supervision and substitution, then they have 8 people, plus possibly the Principal and DP that can cover all 15 points.

    All available people could be on and still places left unsupervised.

    I'm tempted to say fair play to your teachers if many of them signed to get out of the S&S. I would have joined them.


  • #35
    seavill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭seavill


    jamie124 wrote: »
    Sounds bad, but at least they actually turn up in your school to supervise, In my school the teachers ( when they are bothered enough to turn up) can see both corners of the corridor it's hard to explain...

    As I said it may not be that they are not turning up, maybe I didn't explain it properly.

    In my school there are 60 teachers but 30 of them have signed up to get out of it, so that only leaves 30 people.
    Those 30 people have to do 2 slots a week each. There is before school, break time, lunch time (x2). So each day there are 4 teachers that are needed for each place. In my school there would be 8 places that need supervising at each slot. Thats 32 teachers on every day.

    Now take 5 days a week thats a total of 160 slots that need to be filled. However 30 teachers doing 2 slots a week each gives 60 slots filled.

    That just doesn't work, that leaves 90 slots a week left to be covered, so instead of 8 places to be supervised each time that needs to be reduced to 6 places. In reality the 2 remaining places need to be locked and out of bounds. I know for one of my slots I am supervising (during the nice weather) approx. 500 students outside on my own for 20 minutes, how much of that outside area do you think I can cover on my own over 20 minutes. Its crazy.

    Now the figures I have earlier are slightly exaggerated just to make the point but it could be what is happening in your school rather than people just not turning up. (the bit about my lunchtime is actaully true belive it or not)


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