Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

5starpool

MD1990 wrote: »

Think your forgetting Rodgers actually greatly improved Suarez.

I think Suarez mostly improved Suarez.

kingshankly

Oh Jesus

Augmerson

I'm going to form my own football club with blackjack and hookers.

brevity

If one player could destroy the team spirit that easily then the spirit was never that strong enough in the first place.

MD1990

5starpool wrote: »

I think Suarez mostly improved Suarez.

So Henderson,Sterling,Flanagan & Sturridge all improved by themselves too?

NukaCola

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Careful now, there's going to be plenty of people armed with long treatises about how Sturridge is out and new signings and bedding in and it's not that bad and who cares anyway cause we had a great season last year...

So we should ignore this completely? Theres no middle ground is there.

Poor start to the season but plenty of reasons to think we'll turn it around. Some posters are ****ing clueless and jump on the team and manager all the time.

So just because I'm not starting from a negative point of view waiting to be proved wrong by our manager and new signings like yourself, it doesn't mean posters like me think everything is fine. Its just that i dont feel like bitching about everything negative all the ****ing time and have faith that the players and manager will get it right.

Fescue

I see two big problems with the team at the moment.

Our two defensive midfielders are not capable of playing as defensive midfielders.

Our lone centre forward is not capable of playing as a lone centre forward.

We lack pace, we lack power and worst of all we lack intensity.

Soft Falling Rain

One thing that really worries me is that Markovic just doesn't seem up for it at all. He just seems overawed or is just simply shrinking away for the fight. It's something that can be changed much like it was with Hendo mind, but obviously he needs to start showing more and soon.

And was it just me or did Coutinho blank Rodgers' handshake when he was subbed?

Bowlardo

Next Five league games are
West Brom (H)
QPR (A)
Hull (H)
Newcastle (A)
Chelsea (H)

You would hope the team is somewhere settled. sturridge will give us some pace when he comes back and he has to have a partner up front.
Johnson Lovren Sakho Moreno
Gerard
henderson Allen
Sturridge Ballotelli Sterling

kingshankly

Great thing about suarez is he wouldn't of tolerated that ****e he won't have tore strips of them
Gerrard only shouts when he's playing well other wise he says nowt

Kingdom

Augmerson wrote: »

I'm going to form my own football club with blackjack and hookers.

Screw the football. And the blackjack.

mosstin

slingerz wrote: »

I'd have Borini and Lambert up front and drop Sterling. With 5 at the back Gerrard, Henderson and Lallana can be accommodated in midfield and Manquillo and Moreno can get up and down the wings

The thing about getting beaten is that people get away with saying the most ridiculous things. Drop Sterling? Seriously? Practically the only player on the pitch tonight who had the cojones to want the ball even when everything was going against him. I like the guy even more after nights like tonight actually.
If Borini and Lambert are the answer, I, for one, am afraid to ask the ****ing question.

mosstin

MD1990 wrote: »

So Henderson,Sterling,Flanagan & Sturridge all improved by themselves too?

Sterling is **** now, where have you been?

LuckyLloyd

MD1990 wrote: »

So Henderson,Sterling,Flanagan & Sturridge all improved by themselves too?

Some players are on their way to greatness because talent trumps all. Suarez was just going to where he is now, Rodgers would have influenced it by degrees.

Sterling and Flanagan in much more formative years under Rodgers, his influence probably substantial there alright.

But who cares? Gotta win games. We haven't been doing much of that without Suarez unfortunately. Bottom line.

kingshankly

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

One thing that really worries me is that Markovic just doesn't seem up for it at all. He just seems overawed or is just simply shrinking away for the fight. It's something that can be changed much like it was with Hendo mind, but obviously he needs to start showing more and soon.

And was it just me or did Coutinho blank Rodgers' handshake when he was subbed?

I'm pretty sure markovic is colour blind he should definetly get an eye test asap

brevity

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Hello, first time poster but long time admirer.

Decided to take UTD as my team when I started to follow football late last month, but still have interest in Liverpool as my Dad is from there (even if he walked out when I was 8)

As I understand the Liverpool sold Suarez and bought several players with his money, it seems to me that he should have been replaced by players with Uefa Champions league experience given that the Liverpool hope to mount a challenge on this tournament this year, why was he replaced by playes unfamiliar with european football?

All the best and respect to your club
GL

Markovic at least was more involved. His final ball was quite poor at times though. He's so young and inexperienced.

Senior players & Manager are to blame for this mess particularly the latter.

mosstin

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

One thing that really worries me is that Markovic just doesn't seem up for it at all. He just seems overawed or is just simply shrinking away for the fight. It's something that can be changed much like it was with Hendo mind, but obviously he needs to start showing more and soon.

And was it just me or did Coutinho blank Rodgers' handshake when he was subbed?

It was just you. None was offered so none was refused.

Hangballlouie

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Hello, first time poster but long time admirer.

Decided to take UTD as my team when I started to follow football late last month, but still have interest in Liverpool as my Dad is from there (even if he walked out when I was 8)

As I understand the Liverpool sold Suarez and bought several players with his money, it seems to me that he should have been replaced by players with Uefa Champions league experience given that the Liverpool hope to mount a challenge on this tournament this year, why was he replaced by playes unfamiliar with european football?

All the best and respect to your club
GL

Did you know Martin 'The General' Cahill? Was he sound? Did the media paint him all wrong?

Regards

Hangballlouie

5starpool

MD1990 wrote: »

So Henderson,Sterling,Flanagan & Sturridge all improved by themselves too?

I'm not saying that none of it was down to coaching, but in Suarez's case I think he'd have become a beast under nearly any manager.

It's still fairly early in the season, but a lot of damage is being done so far. If we don't sort things out in the next month we could be in for a dismal season.

We can still turn this around but it seems obvious now that Sturridge is instrumental to how we are trying to play.

LuckyLloyd

NukaCola wrote: »

So we should ignore this completely? Theres no middle ground is there.

Poor start to the season but plenty of reasons to think we'll turn it around. Some posters are ****ing clueless and jump on the team and manager all the time.

So just because I'm not starting from a negative point of view waiting to be proved wrong by our manager and new signings like yourself, it doesn't mean posters like me think everything is fine. Its just that i dont feel like bitching about everything negative all the ****ing time and have faith that the players and manager will get it right.

Have I done that thus far this season? I think I've been pretty reserved all told.

This is now six poor performances on the trot. Forget about results for a second. Six subpar performances. I think six bad games in a row and only one really useful performance thus far this season is a reasonable point to start asking questions. This isn't 'Lloyd is a dick' time imo.

murpho999

Those thinking that Rodgers made Suarez world class are deluded.

Suarez was on his way before and Rodgers found a way to get the team playing around him that maximised his powers.

Special players like that will be great no matter who they are managed by.

Anyhow not the issue at hand. Big question is now what does Rodgers do with his current team?

Francie Barrett

mosstin wrote: »

The thing about getting beaten is that people get away with saying the most ridiculous things. Drop Sterling? Seriously? Practically the only player on the pitch tonight who had the cojones to want the ball even when everything was going against him. I like the guy even more after nights like tonight actually.
If Borini and Lambert are the answer, I, for one, am afraid to ask the ****ing question.

Sometimes I don't think we deserve to have good players at all with the way some fans treat them.

Sterling is the best player we have in this team and we're lucky to have him.

Augmerson

Can't remember what pizza tasted like.

Bring back Roy Evans.

NukaCola

MD1990 wrote: »

So Henderson,Sterling,Flanagan & Sturridge all improved by themselves too?

When Suarez was told to train alone for trying to force a move to Arsenal he hit a new level. If anything BR and the team hampered his progress.

Francie Barrett

rarnes1 wrote: »

Markovic at least was more involved. His final ball was quite poor at times though. He's so young and inexperienced.

He's also nearly a year older than Sterling.

MD1990

murpho999 wrote: »

Those thinking that Rodgers made Suarez world class are deluded.

Suarez was on his way before and Rodgers found a way to get the team playing around him that maximised his powers.

Special players like that will be great no matter who they are managed by.

Anyhow not the issue at hand. Big question is now what does Rodgers do with his current team?

You just contradicted yourself there.

mosstin

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Sometimes I don't think we deserve to have good players at all with the way some fans treat them.

Sterling is the best player we have in this team and we're lucky to have him.

It's the scattergun criticism which baffles me. Sterling sees lots of the ball, let down by a poor touch, sure, therefore he's ****. Ridiculous stuff. He was the only player for us tonight who looked like doing anything. The fact that he didn't doesn't mean that he was ****.

Charlie19

Rodgers was a one season wonder!

The dozen or so games this season has proved that he tactically inept.


Worst fans ever.

slingerz

Devilman40k wrote: »

Gerrard and Lambert in same side. Might as well start with 9 men!!

Seriously though Sterling is better higher up the pitch. At 19 getting into the positions he got into tonight ...yes his finishing let him down but he was in the position.

I'd give Lucas 90 mins. We need a scrapper in there now.

Lambert will be a focal point that Balotelli won't be though. Lambert did a good job for Southamptin last season so can't have dis improved so much over the summer

Sterling needs a rest really. I'd give Suso an outing too sometimes.

Playing with wing backs would allow us to use Moreno and Manquillo to the best of their abilities