Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

Devilman40k · 01-10-2014 08:54PM

slingerz wrote: »

5-3-2 lads I'm telling ye it's the answer for Liverpool at the moment

Sterling Borini up front vs West Brom for me....can't be as bad we have been .At least they will create movement and space. Lallana , Lucas and Henderson in mid....

LuckyLloyd · 01-10-2014 08:55PM

Official: ruh roh

NukaCola · 01-10-2014 08:55PM

kingshankly wrote: »

So everything is grand we have just played two of the worst teams I have seen in Europe beaten by one and blessed to beat the other
Playing absolute crap in the league creating feck all
Wake up and smell the coffee lad this side is horrendous

Real just beat ludo 2-1. Basel are no chumps either.

Come in off the ledge, calm yourself down. I never said everything is fine. I said we were poor. Some people are losing there minds, like yourself by the sounds of things.

slingerz · 01-10-2014 08:55PM

I hope Rodgers decides to change things up for the weekend

The likes of Suso, Lallana, Borini need to get given a go as well.

Raif Severance · 01-10-2014 08:56PM

BR should play Lucas, Hendo and Lallana at MF, against Westbrom.

Otherwise, we're going to Stare at another Loss.

Hangballlouie · 01-10-2014 08:56PM

We are playing Hodgeball this season at times lads. Prepare for it to get worse before it will get better.

delw · 01-10-2014 08:56PM

tok9 wrote: »

Someone get that defender stat chart out. Skrtel was awful tonight.

Thought that was a massive missed opportunity. I didn't think either team played particularly well and unfortunately for us Sterling had an absolute mare in front of goal.

But he's our best defender according to some

Agent Coulson · 01-10-2014 08:57PM

Gerrard won't be dropped!!!

super_furry · 01-10-2014 08:57PM

hangballlouie wrote: »

We are playing Hodgeball this season at times lads. Prepare for it to get worse before it will get better.

That's what I thought tonight - looked like a Hodgson side.

LuckyLloyd · 01-10-2014 08:57PM

Unpopular: Rodgers looking rather hapless lately

01-10-2014 08:58PM

I think BR needs to rip up his formations and start again.

Current setup will finish outside top 4 quite easily and outside the knockout stages of the CL.

noodler · 01-10-2014 08:58PM

Can Rodgers do this without suarez?

Massive questions. Can he actually make a decent attacking unit without a world class attacker?

Jury is out.

darced · 01-10-2014 08:59PM

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slingerz · 01-10-2014 08:59PM

Devilman40k wrote: »

Sterling Borini up front vs West Brom for me....can't be as bad we have been .At least they will create movement and space. Lallana , Lucas and Henderson in mid....

I'd have Borini and Lambert up front and drop Sterling. With 5 at the back Gerrard, Henderson and Lallana can be accommodated in midfield and Manquillo and Moreno can get up and down the wings

Devilman40k · 01-10-2014 08:59PM

noodler wrote: »

Can Rodgers do this without suarez?

Massive questions. Can he actually make a decent attacking unit without a world class attacker?

Jury is out.

More importantly he can't do it without Sturridge

kingshankly · 01-10-2014 09:00PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I think BR needs to rip up his formations and start again.

Current setup will finish outside top 4 quite easily and outside the knockout stages of the CL.

On current form that side won't finish top half

noodler · 01-10-2014 09:00PM

darced wrote: »

Jesus Rarnes you are really droning on about this Balottelli thing,give him a bit more time at least before proclaiming how you told us all.

He is 100% right.

It is not jus his own poor performances, it is the effect he has on the team spirit and his indiscipline with refs. Not to mention his selfishness.

He will be gone by next season.

martyos121 · 01-10-2014 09:00PM

Ara Barca can't ye loan us back Suarez in January! Ye hardly need him with Messi and Neymar in the squad!

LuckyLloyd · 01-10-2014 09:01PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I think BR needs to rip up his formations and start again.

Current setup will finish outside top 4 quite easily and outside the knockout stages of the CL.

noodler wrote: »

Can Rodgers do this without suarez?

Massive questions. Can he actually make a decent attacking unit without a world class attacker?

Jury is out.

Careful now, there's going to be plenty of people armed with long treatises about how Sturridge is out and new signings and bedding in and it's not that bad and who cares anyway cause we had a great season last year...

billymitchell · 01-10-2014 09:01PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

They're doing nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Ah here, lallana is coming along nicely, the full backs look promising,lovren could be better , markovic and balo need to up their game seriously.

Lets all calm the fcuk down, last year was a freak year, we got ahead of ourselves, our aim should be top 4 this year, and build again. The future is bright people. Believe

MD1990 · 01-10-2014 09:01PM

noodler wrote: »

Can Rodgers do this without suarez?

Massive questions. Can he actually make a decent attacking unit without a world class attacker?

Jury is out.

Think your forgetting Rodgers actually greatly improved Suarez.

Francie Barrett · 01-10-2014 09:01PM

I feel sorry for Sterling in all this. He is a top, top class player, but all of a sudden he finds himself in a team where the other players just aren't on the same wavelength as him. When Sterling is looking to play the ball, none of the players around him are making the overlapping runs or pull players out of position. When other players have the ball, they aren't breaking forward quick enough and opposition defenders just have too much time to organise. As the weeks have went on, he's just looked a very frustrated figure and the whole situation has affect his confidence and decision making.

Right now, people can say Markovic or Balotelli have done well, but the fact is they have looked poor reflections on what we had last season (Suarez and Sturridge). It's obviously still very early days, but if our goal is going to be top 4 and a decent run in the Champions League, then Markovic and Balotelli both have to up their games.

Strongbow10 · 01-10-2014 09:01PM

You need to be compact in Europe and we are wide open. Midfield is a shambles, teams run right through the middle of us. Too many players who are supposedly technically good on the ball (supposedly) but we are an absolute shambles out of possession, the lack of ability to win possession is frightening.

Rodgers may not be cut out to manage a large squad, having to tinker with the first XI to keep everyone fresh. He blundered last season when tinkering with the first XI on a few occasions, we steamrolled teams last season playing virtually the same team every weekend but it's a different story when you forced to choose how to use a squad and when the team doesn't pick itself.

His philosophy looks good on paper but our midfield is critically bad. The defence is exposed by lack of protection on top of their own frailties.

Steven Gerrard in his current role is redundant when the opposition have the lions share of possession, I don't care how many people remind me how good he has been for us, the lad is a liability in his current position. You cannot play this cavalier system against teams in Europe that have discipline tactically.

The blueprint is there now to stop us playing, get everyone behind the ball and stop us breaking quickly.

mav79 · 01-10-2014 09:02PM

I'd like to see Couthino and Lallana on the pitch at the same time. Too many of our players are afraid to carry the ball forward. Gerrard and Henderson just seem to want to spread it wide even when there is no pressure on them.

noodler · 01-10-2014 09:03PM

darced wrote: »

Jesus Rarnes you are really droning on about this Balottelli thing,give him a bit more time at least before proclaiming how you told us all.

He is 100% right.

It is not jus his own poor performances, it is the effect he has on the team spirit and his indiscipline with refs. Not to mention his selfishness.

He will be gone by next season.

klose · 01-10-2014 09:03PM

noodler wrote: »

Can Rodgers do this without suarez?

Massive questions. Can he actually make a decent attacking unit without a world class attacker?

Jury is out.

Suarez became world class under rodgers in fairness, as for the rest we will have to see. 9 games is a fairly negligible sample size, sturridge is last seasons suarez, vital player.

Devilman40k · 01-10-2014 09:04PM

slingerz wrote: »

I'd have Borini and Lambert up front and drop Sterling. With 5 at the back Gerrard, Henderson and Lallana can be accommodated in midfield and Manquillo and Moreno can get up and down the wings

Gerrard and Lambert in same side. Might as well start with 9 men!!

Seriously though Sterling is better higher up the pitch. At 19 getting into the positions he got into tonight ...yes his finishing let him down but he was in the position.

I'd give Lucas 90 mins. We need a scrapper in there now.

Glock Lesnar · 01-10-2014 09:05PM

Hello, first time poster but long time admirer.

Decided to take UTD as my team when I started to follow football late last month, but still have interest in Liverpool as my Dad is from there (even if he walked out when I was 8)

As I understand the Liverpool sold Suarez and bought several players with his money, it seems to me that he should have been replaced by players with Uefa Champions league experience given that the Liverpool hope to mount a challenge on this tournament this year, why was he replaced by playes unfamiliar with european football?

All the best and respect to your club
GL

01-10-2014 09:05PM

darced wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

In fairness you harped on about Lucas for years!

Look, I don't rate Ballotelli. Plenty don't. I was shocked when Rodgers signed him as he is so far from a Rodgers type player. If it was Lambert of Borini up there they'd be getting slaughtered by everyone.

Raif Severance · 01-10-2014 09:05PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Unpopular: Rodgers looking rather hapless lately

Well, he's going to Continue looking Hapless, if he's going to Insist playing Gerrard 90m every Game we have.

We can't Babysit Gerrard, specially not with this Attack.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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