Gameweek 3 transfers

Backstreet Moyes

Lemlin wrote: »

I wouldn't touch Clichy, Kolarov, Zabaleta or Sagna tbh. The only defender guaranteed to play every game for City is Kompany.

Zabaleta is arguably the best rb in the world the last two years he will play unless he is injured.

Fizman

Etoo looks like signing a 2 year deal at Everton so will obviously impact on Naismiths minutes.

Lemlin

Nuts102 wrote: »

Zabaleta is arguably the best rb in the world the last two years he will play unless he is injured.

I agree he's a great right back but why would Pellegrini sign Sagna on a three year deal, reported to be between £100k to £150k a week, if he didn't plan to rotate them?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2656930/Bacary-Sagna-joins-Manchester-City-three-year-150-000-week-deal-leaving-Premier-League-rivals-Arsenal.html

IsMiseMyself

That's not ideal.

zarquon

Fizman wrote: »

Etoo looks like signing a 2 year deal at Everton so will obviously impact on Naismiths minutes.

Would be more likely to impact Lukakus minutes based on position. Considering they are in the Europa League this year there will be some rotation but Naismith will be fine until barkley is back. He should have jumped in price quite considerably by then so i'll be happy to ship him out at that point.

Backstreet Moyes

Lemlin wrote: »

I agree he's a great right back but why would Pellegrini sign Sagna on a three year deal, reported to be between £100k to £150k a week, if he didn't plan to rotate them?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2656930/Bacary-Sagna-joins-Manchester-City-three-year-150-000-week-deal-leaving-Premier-League-rivals-Arsenal.html

Because they have heaps of money and he is a very good back up. I would be shocked if Zabaleta doesn't start every game unless he is injured.

kennyb3

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Demechillis is on borrowed time no?? He finished last year well and didn't disgrace himself at the world cup by any means but Mangala looks set to be Kompany's partner or at the very least take a bit of playing time off Demi.

+1, they spent €32m on Mangala - that money isn't for a bench player imo.

(British record for a defender)

And Pelli's quotes;

‘He is already a fine player but in my opinion he has all the mental, physical, technical and tactical attributes to become one of Europe’s very best defenders.
‘Eliaquim is a player I believe will make an immediate impact in the Premier League, thanks to his physicality, his reading of the game and quality on the ball — I think he will prove to be a great signing for us.’

I'd expect him to start coming into the side post Chelsea game (prob best not to chuck him in against Arsenal & Chelsea).

FrClintPower

Lemlin wrote: »

I agree. I dumped Caulker for Taylor this week and I can see myself dumping Terry.

Current defence is:

Terry, Coloccini, van Aanholt, Taylor, Moore
24 mil spent on defenders.

If I replace Terry with someone even just 5 million, it'll bring that down to 22.5.

Similar here, I've Cahill, PVA, Colo, Chambers and Duff, with Begovic in goal. I'm thinking of moving to get in a Swansea / Southampton pair, maybe Taylor and Bertrand, and downgrading Cahill in the process. I'm hoping for an injury in Turkey midweek so Chambers stays playing for the moment. Even considering swapping in Courtois for Begovic, 1m extra but a lot more points I'd imagine.

Harvey Low Fat Milk

Lemlin wrote: »

Nope, I'd need to get rid of Terry. At the minute my team is:

Begovic Hamer
Terry, Coloccini, van Aanholt, Taylor, Moore
Sterling, Fabregas, Siggy, Ramsey, Isgrove
Rooney, Costa, Fletcher

How are you feeling about Begovic, I have Terry myself to downgrade but I'm concerned about Stoke's defence this season and should I get rid of both Terry and Begovic but keep Bojan for one more GW.

Iused2likebusts

Nuts102 wrote: »

Zabaleta is arguably the best rb in the world the last two years he will play unless he is injured.

Agree zabaleta is the best rb in the world but he will definetly be rotated this year. City regularly rotated lbs last yr and I'd expect sagna to start 6 to 10 league games and domestic cup games.

Lemlin

Nuts102 wrote: »

Because they have heaps of money and he is a very good back up. I would be shocked if Zabaleta doesn't start every game unless he is injured.

If you've a CL tie, say against AC Milan, and you're playing Burnley at the weekend, why would you play Zabaleta when you have Sagna available?

I expect Sagna to play at least six to eight PL games this season. Zabaleta played 35 last season but Sagna has obviously been signed IMO with the expectation that he will lessen the amount of games Zab plays.

An article by the Manchester Evening News pre the signing seemed to think so too:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-transfers-bacary-sagna-7135126

There is, unsurprisingly, method in Manuel Pellegrini’s madness and it comes from within that games played statistic. The Blues boss, like most, wants two quality players competing for each spot. Two players he can rely on to do a job.

He has already said that he expects City to be fighting on four fronts again next term. He will not want 29-year-old Zabaleta to take the strain that racking up almost a half century of games can cause.

Sagna, if he does make the switch, will provide welcome relief - and competition.

That is something that has been absent this season, something which does not bode well for Micah Richards.

Lemlin

Harvey Low Fat Milk wrote: »

How are you feeling about Begovic, I have Terry myself to downgrade but I'm concerned about Stoke's defence this season and should I get rid of both Terry and Begovic but keep Bojan for one more GW.

I plan to go for Lloris when I get the chance. Downgrading Terry to a 5 mil player in the team above, would leave me with .5 free to go to Lloris.

In saying that, I'm not overly worried. Stoke have conceded but just one goal a game. I still have faith that they'll get things right at the back yet. Not this weekend though but hopefully he might rack up save points.

8-10

Lemlin wrote: »

If you've a CL tie, say against AC Milan, and you're playing Burnley at the weekend, why would you play Zabaleta when you have Sagna available?

For the record, these are the PL games before the 6 midweek CL group games for City:

Arsenal (A)
Tigers (A)
Spurs (H)
Man United (H)
Swansea (H)
Everton (H)

They play Burnley for the first time over Christmas (28th dec) so there'll be rotation at that time I reckon, return game is March.

Iused2likebusts

8-10 wrote: »

For the record, these are the PL games before the 6 midweek CL group games for City:

Arsenal (A)
Tigers (A)
Spurs (H)
Man United (H)
Swansea (H)
Everton (H)

They play Burnley for the first time over Christmas (28th dec) so there'll be rotation at that time I reckon, return game is March.

They could and will also rotate the weekend after cl games.

Too much rotation risk with Jovetic.

8-10

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

They could and will also rotate the weekend after cl games.

Ah I was just nitpicking the fact that they won't be playing Burnley before a CL fixture, to nitpick further they won't be having any CL ties v AC Milan this season either as they didn't qualify! Only finished 8th in Serie A

Monsieur Folie

Is Kompany worth the cash at the back? I have him in but I feel like I can get better value out of a cheaper defender. Are any expensive defenders worth a go at all, actually? I'm currently planning my wildcard, which I'll be using fairly soon because some of the lads are pulling away in my private league, and in order to upgrade my front 7 I'd have to abandon any thoughts of keeping Coleman/Kompany at the back. I would have liked to have one expensive defender at least but I don't know if they're worth it unless they're consistently attacking or prone to clean sheets and bonus points.

IsMiseMyself

I'm not doing anything drastic. I was tempted to knee-jerk but my philosophy this year is to think things through. (No more drunk transfers!) Bojan is gone to Naismith but that's it. I was gonna ship Pieters out but they have easy fixtures upcoming so he gets a reprieve for a few weeks.

Apart from that, my plan is to downgrade De Gea in a couple of weeks. SURELY they can keep a cleansheet over the next two fixtures. Then I'll need another .6 or so to afford Aguero (for Rooney) should he stay fit once he's got a full 90 under his belt. That .6 will come from downgrading either Terry or Debuchy. It'll probably be Debuchy because I feel Chelsea coverage is a must.

That's the plan for now, anyway.

Backstreet Moyes

Monsieur Folie wrote: »

Is Kompany worth the cash at the back? I have him in but I feel like I can get better value out of a cheaper defender. Are any expensive defenders worth a go at all, actually? I'm currently planning my wildcard, which I'll be using fairly soon because some of the lads are pulling away in my private league, and in order to upgrade my front 7 I'd have to abandon any thoughts of keeping Coleman/Kompany at the back. I would have liked to have one expensive defender at least but I don't know if they're worth it unless they're consistently attacking or prone to clean sheets and bonus points.

You can always go cheaper but i think Terry at the same price is a better option. Chelsea are very strong at the back and he will score a few goals.

Backstreet Moyes

Di Maria going to United is going to have me scratching my head. I have Rooney and Mata and both could be rotated.

zarquon

Nuts102 wrote: »

Di Maria going to United is going to have me scratching my head. I have Rooney and Mata and both could be rotated.

Vidal going to united also has me worried. I may have to transfer out cleverley

GLaDOS

Nuts102 wrote: »

Di Maria going to United is going to have me scratching my head. I have Rooney and Mata and both could be rotated.

He can play in the middle, though usually part of a middle three. That would mean a change in system, which brings its own problems.

Monsieur Folie

Nuts102 wrote: »

You can always go cheaper but i think Terry at the same price is a better option. Chelsea are very strong at the back and he will score a few goals.

I've heard Terry quoted a lot as the best value of the more expensive defenders so I might give him a go. There's a lot of great bargains to be had in defence at the moment but my worry there is are these players season-long performers or just bandwagons? No point filling the defence with dirt cheap bandwagons and having no cash to upgrade if they stop performing, in my opinion. Do any players that are more experienced than a newbie like me have an opinion on that?

Might have to study the fixtures in more detail to see if I can come up with a long term plan of some sort (I have none at the moment, just playing week to week and going with the flow).

TaytoCrisps

Getting in Rivière for Newcastle this week and getting rid of bojan . 1.5% ownership ... madness most likely

Lucas Hood

Here's Lahm reacting to hearing some talking about Zabaleta as the best right back in the world.

Lemlin

8-10 wrote: »

For the record, these are the PL games before the 6 midweek CL group games for City:

Arsenal (A)
Tigers (A)
Spurs (H)
Man United (H)
Swansea (H)
Everton (H)

They play Burnley for the first time over Christmas (28th dec) so there'll be rotation at that time I reckon, return game is March.

I think when I put the word "say" it clarifies that I was just picking random teams.

You've more times on your hand to check these things than I do :pac:

Backstreet Moyes

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Here's Lahm reacting to hearing some talking about Zabaleta as the best right back in the world.

Lahm has been playing in midfield and lb in recent years. Zabaleta is the best rb in the world.

Paully D

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm looking at a frontline of Aguero, Costa and Ade long term myself. Ade at 8.5 could be too good to turn down. Forward players have scored well under Poch at Southampton.

That's what I'm looking at presently too.

I'd also be tempted to throw Lloris in goal and leave him. Then just rotate cheap defenders every week.

That'd give me a front line of Adebayor, Aguero and Costa with Hazard, Ramsey and Sigurdsson plus a £7m-£7.5m in midfield, but anyway, that's a few weeks away for me at this stage and will change dramatically by the time I wildcard no doubt. :pac:

Backstreet Moyes

Monsieur Folie wrote: »

I've heard Terry quoted a lot as the best value of the more expensive defenders so I might give him a go. There's a lot of great bargains to be had in defence at the moment but my worry there is are these players season-long performers or just bandwagons? No point filling the defence with dirt cheap bandwagons and having no cash to upgrade if they stop performing, in my opinion. Do any players that are more experienced than a newbie like me have an opinion on that?

Might have to study the fixtures in more detail to see if I can come up with a long term plan of some sort (I have none at the moment, just playing week to week and going with the flow).

Just my personal opinion i think Chelsea will concede the fewest goals this season in the league. I think you need either a Chelsea defender or a keeper.

I have also got Debuchy for Arsenal i think they will keep clean sheets. So i would say every week i will start those two.

Then i have three cheap defenders Moore 4.0, Wisdom 4.0 and Collocini at 4.5 who are all regulars. So each week depending on fixtures i can decide which of those three i think is more likely to get a clean sheet.

Looking at this week Collocini is at home to a poor Crystal Palace and they have a good chance of a clean sheet.

Lemlin

Nuts102 wrote: »

Lahm has been playing in midfield and lb in recent years. Zabaleta is the best rb in the world.

All I'm worried about as an FF player is whether he'll play. He could be the worst RB in the world and playing in a City defence keeping clean sheets and I wouldn't give a hoot.

The fact is City haven't signed a 31 year old on a reported 150k a week 3 year contract to leave him sitting on the bench all the time.