People who have pets but don't / rarely interact with them

The Singing Beard

A friend of mine has two dogs, he's only ever had pure-breed pedigree dogs.

This time he has a Pug and a Labrador.

Whenever I'm in the house, the dogs are always locked up in a cage in the back of the kitchen. I asked him is it just when guests are around and he said no. He doesn't want the dogs roaming around the house or on the furniture. The dogs are either locked up in the cage or out the back. Why have a dog if you're going to treat it like this.

An ex-girlfriend of mine has an Alsatian mix, a pure dote of a thing and a jack russell. Both are tied up at the back of the kitchen / conservatory on a one-metre lead (or at least they always were in the two years I was seeing her).

Why do people treat sentient creatures like this?

And why does my friend insist on pedigree dogs from farms? Is it a fashion thing? Why not a loyal companion from a pound? I hate this pedigree dig snobbery. But that's a different rant, sorry :-p

darkpagandeath

at Least their not kept outside .... :pac:

JaMarcusHustle

It’s because there are a large number of pet owners out there who are, to put it mildly, very thick and ignorant. They see pets as accessories, something to make them feel good or cheer up. It’s nothing to do with giving the dog a good quality of life and raising it. It’s just selfishness – “I want a dog for my benefit”.

Log on to Adverts or DoneDeal and look at the Pet Adoption sections under dogs. The amount of Huskies / Malamutes / Akitas you see is sickening. These were once something of an exotic breed that were almost exclusively owned and raised by experienced breeders. But somewhere along the line, they became the new Pitbull. That is, the breed of dog of choice of tracksuit-wearing, council house-living, benefits-claiming, “Aww lyk if u cried hun xxx”-posting idiots. A few of them got their hands on Huskies, and now they breed them with their scumbag friends’ dogs and suddenly, there’s an abundance of these fabulous breeds in the hands of absolute cretins.

No doubt it’s because they “luk bleedin dedly” and needless to say, getting said dog was not researched one bit. And shock horror, these dogs aren’t happy being chained up in a box garden in some housing estate, being fed cheap food and taken for a walk once every few days when the owner wants to show off their “cool” dog.

So the dog starts acting up, naturally. And up he goes on Adverts with one of the few excuses you see on there. Either “we don’t have time for him”, “we have a (7th) child on the way” or “we’re emigrating”. The vast majority of these reasons are made up, they just want rid of the dog. And the hypocrisy of adding “we only want him to go to a loving home” is not lost on me either. How noble of you to look out for your dog’s best interests while you’re fúcking him out of his home because you got fed up.

And of course these ads are then answered by the same breed of person who wants a deadly looking dog.

I want a huskie. I've wanted one for as long as I can remember. But I live in an apartment and there's no way I could give the dog the environment it needs. Such a simple concept that's lost on an increasing number of selfish **** in Ireland.

Oh how I wish dog licenses were properly enforced, but not for the reason of raking in extra money for the Government, but rather for Animal Welfare reasons.

The Backwards Man

I said it before and I'll say it again, and I know it's unpopular, but I don't think anyone should have a dog if it doesn't have at least half an acre of ground to run about in.

Reebrock

My Dog is free to go wherever he wants in the home. He goes for one walk a day and gets a fair bit of attention if he comes for it. But I'll say when I'm crashed out watching TV, he tends to just bugger off and do his own thing (namely sleep). I often think if I went to play with him at moments like that he would love it, alas, his tired human just slumps watching the TV.

I'm an 8/10 pet owner. Safe home, fed, loved. There are MUCH better pet owners than me however. But yeah, I'd never lock my dog in a cage.

Jen Pigs Fly

Because people are cúnts who think a dog is just "a dog".

People make me sick sometimes. My Labrador (who is a pound rescue) is currently lieing at the end of the bed loving life ... He has a better life that me :rolleyes: little shîte doesn't even have a job :P

Links234

I have a dog and she has the run of the entire house, it's her home as much as it is ours, and I couldn't imagine keeping her in a cage I don't know how people could do that.

Reebrock

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I said it before and I'll say it again, and I know it's unpopular, but I don't think anyone should have a dog if it doesn't have at least half an acre of ground to run about in.

There would be very few dogs living with people if this were the case. Your vision isn't exactly in line with reality my friend.

failinis

I think it is cruel if they don't have the space to run about or the interaction.
I don't have a dog anymore, but I have rabbits still, and the many people who leave them in hutches and only go out to feed them is awful, they need human contact to stay sane.

verywell

The Singing Beard wrote: »

A friend of mine has two dogs, he's only ever had pure-breed pedigree dogs.

This time he has a Pug and a Labrador.

Whenever I'm in the house, the dogs are always locked up in a cage in the back of the kitchen. I asked him is it just when guests are around and he said no. He doesn't want the dogs roaming around the house or on the furniture. The dogs are either locked up in the cage or out the back. Why have a dog if you're going to treat it like this.

An ex-girlfriend of mine has an Alsatian mix, a pure dote of a thing and a jack russell. Both are tied up at the back of the kitchen / conservatory on a one-metre lead (or at least they always were in the two years I was seeing her).

Why do people treat sentient creatures like this?

And why does my friend insist on pedigree dogs from farms? Is it a fashion thing? Why not a loyal companion from a pound? I hate this pedigree dig snobbery. But that's a different rant, sorry :-p

The time to help the poor animals is when you see these things happen. They deserve better treatment than this type of BS :mad:

Links234

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I don't think anyone should have a dog if it doesn't have at least half an acre of ground to run about in.

I disagree, I walk my dog 4 to 5 times a day, she gets to run around in the park.

Potatoeman

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

You should log on to Adverts or Done Deal and look at the Pets for Adoption section. Makes me sick the number of Huskies / Malamutes /

Why is it people that get Huskies dont seem to walk them enough. Its a sled dog. It needs excercise.

KungPao

The Singing Beard wrote: »

A friend of mine has two dogs, he's only ever had pure-breed pedigree dogs.

This time he has a Pug and a Labrador.

Whenever I'm in the house, the dogs are always locked up in a cage in the back of the kitchen. I asked him is it just when guests are around and he said no. He doesn't want the dogs roaming around the house or on the furniture. The dogs are either locked up in the cage or out the back. Why have a dog if you're going to treat it like this.

An ex-girlfriend of mine has an Alsatian mix, a pure dote of a thing and a jack russell. Both are tied up at the back of the kitchen / conservatory on a one-metre lead (or at least they always were in the two years I was seeing her).

Why do people treat sentient creatures like this?

And why does my friend insist on pedigree dogs from farms? Is it a fashion thing? Why not a loyal companion from a pound? I hate this pedigree dig snobbery. But that's a different rant, sorry :-p

They all look the same, must be inbred to ****. I love little mutts, they have more character.

The Backwards Man

Reebrock wrote: »

There would be very few dogs living with people if this were the case. Your vision isn't exactly in line with reality my friend.

I know, it's just my opinion is all.

Reebrock

Links234 wrote: »

I disagree, I walk my dog 4 to 5 times a day, she gets to run around in the park.

The Backwards Man implies PERSONAL 1/2 acre.

ScumLord

Pedigree dogs are a form of species abuse in my books. I think if a dog spends a large part of it's day inside then you don't have the kind of lifestyle that suits having a dog. Dogs in cities I don't get at all, they just seem to be fashion accessories to people.

Ihatecuddles

Is he crate training them?

_Redzer_

ScumLord wrote: »

Pedigree dogs are a form of species abuse in my books. I think if a dog spends a large part of it's day inside then you don't have the kind of lifestyle that suits having a dog. Dogs in cities I don't get at all, they just seem to be fashion accessories to people.

Especially breeds like bulldogs, pugs and King Charles to say the least. So many of them die of horrible genetic diseases and have a poorer quality of life than they deserve.

Shur pugs and bulldogs' faces are so flat and deformed they can't even breath properly -couple that with their low life expectancy and it's pretty unfair life to bestow on them.

People should be after mixed breed dogs, they're the true healthy dogs.
I used to like the idea of pure breeds, but not so much anymore.

Vincent Vega

People who have pets but don't / rarely interact with them

...should not be allowed have kids.

KungPao

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Especially breeds like bulldogs, pugs and King Charles to say the least. So many of them die of horrible genetic diseases and have a poorer quality of life than they deserve.

Shur pugs and bulldogs' faces are so flat and deformed they can't even breath properly -couple that with their low life expectancy and it's pretty unfair life to bestow on them.

People should be after mixed breed dogs, they're the true healthy dogs.
I used to like the idea of pure breeds, but not so much anymore.

All the dogs I remember fondly were mutts. They all had great personalities which were warm and unique. The did seem very happy too.

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I have a tortoise who i like to interact with as much as I can, but he can only take so much, then blanks me and goes for a dig and a sleep

ScumLord

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Shur pugs and bulldogs' faces are so flat and deformed they can't even breath properly -couple that with their low life expectancy and it's pretty unfair life to bestow on them.

King charles and pugs suffer from much worse. Small, smart dogs can get some horribly painful conditions, the worst of which is Syringomyelia where the skull is too small and the brain gets crushed. It's apparently one of the worst pains a creature can suffer through.

_Redzer_

ScumLord wrote: »

King charles and pugs suffer from much worse. Small, smart dogs can get some horribly painful conditions, the worst of which is Syringomyelia where the skull is too small and the brain gets crushed. It's apparently one of the worst pains a creature can suffer through.

Yeah I've read about that recently. Horrible stuff.

Chihuahuas' skulls are the only ones of their kind not to have fully fused plates, and like human babies, have soft spots that need time to fuse, which makes them ridiculously prone to hurting themselves for 6 months of their lives. Sometimes their skulls don't fuse at all even. All that and they're very susceptible to neurological diseases and conditions like seizures, which makes me wonder what's the point of having one?

If you really cared about your future dog you'd avoid a pure breed and get a cross. So much healthier, but then again, humans are superficial, vain, and won't care as long as it looks cute.

ScumLord

_Redzer_ wrote: »

If you really cared about your future dog you'd avoid a pure breed and get a cross. So much healthier, but then again, humans are superficial, vain, and won't care as long as it looks cute.

I think it's more a case of people don't realise what they're doing. They just see a cute puppy and ignore the obvious inbreeding and factory breeding.

Egginacup

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I said it before and I'll say it again, and I know it's unpopular, but I don't think anyone should have a dog if it doesn't have at least half an acre of ground to run about in.

I would disagree Backwards Man. For a big dog like a setter, collie, labrador, etc, I agree that these guys need lots of space to run free (well actually all dogs do) but my mother has always had a dog and they have always had a quality life. She has a modest back garden, about 30ft x 20ft with some shade at the end, and that's where the dog goes for a piss or to chew a bone or snarl at pigeons. There's a green across the road and a park close by so the dogs have always had plenty of exercise and room to play. Mind you my mother has always had smaller dogs (Cairn Terrier, Jack Russell, Corgi) so mybe they don't get stir crazy in a house like a bloody Great Dane might.

kneemos

Started a thread on this very topic some time ago in the Pet Forum,I would say the majority of replies felt it was OK to keep your dog locked up.
Started the same thread here a while ago and the majority of replies felt it was wrong.
No idea what it means but there ya go.

Reindeer

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I know, it's just my opinion is all.

I work to place ex-racing Greyhounds in homes. Ireland not only produces more Greyhounds than any other breed, but they also produce more Greyhounds than any other country in the world according to the Irish Coursing Club. Many spend the earliest part of their lives spending up to 22 hours a day in a crate that is 3'X4' on a good day. If we waited for folks with half an acre of land or more to adopt these hounds after their careers are over, the trainers, syndicates/owners wouldn't even bother dealing with us. It's slow enough as it is finding these hounds decent homes. Your opinion is backwards.

mosi

Reindeer wrote: »

I work to place ex-racing Greyhounds in homes. Ireland not only produces more Greyhounds than any other breed, but they also produce more Greyhounds than any other country in the world according to the Irish Coursing Club. Many spend the earliest part of their lives spending up to 22 hours a day in a crate that is 3'X4' on a good day. If we waited for folks with half an acre of land or more to adopt these hounds after their careers are over, the trainers, syndicates/owners wouldn't even bother dealing with us. It's slow enough as it is finding these hounds decent homes. Your opinion is backwards.

And most greyhounds wouldn't give a stuff about having half an acre, they'd be far more interested in hogging the sofa all day!

Dolbert

Don't get me started on the people who completely neglect their pets the minute they have kids :mad: I understand that you're not gonna have the same amount of time for them as before, but this craic of suddenly putting the dog outside all the time because there's a kid in the house is just cruel.

The Singing Beard

Animal cruelty laws should be more severe with a dedicated animal-welfare police like they have in some countries.

Lucyfur

I talk to my dog more than I talk to my husband

Vojera

I adore dogs, but that's the very reason I don't have one. Myself and my OH are out of the house ten hours a day. Leaving a dog alone all that time just isn't right.

I feel the same about guinea pigs. I know a lot of people buy them for their kids as "starter pets", to teach them responsibility or whatever. But inevitably what happens if they get left down the bottom of the garden and get a bowl of food thrown in once a day - if they're lucky - and kids learn that pets are disposable and replaceable.

I currently have eleven piggies and they are so much fun. They're my little pals, always excited to see me, and they communicate with a relatively complex language for a rodent, so listening to their little conversations is gas. It makes me sad to know that right this second there are hundreds, if not thousands, of those little guys in hutches all over the country without even a friend of their own species to communicate with.

Stinjy

Dolbert wrote: »

Don't get me started on the people who completely neglect their pets the minute they have kids...

- and they wonder why dogs get jelous.

Our dog actually runs the house, knows how to ask for what he wants and usually gets it. A spoiled boy and he knows it. Couldn't put him in a crate, ever. :mad: Can't imagine not having him bounding towards the door when I come in to insist I love him and never leave again :P

woodoo

Right now my neighbors dog is still barking and pining. He is never let out of his caged area with its dog house. Even when the children are out playing in the back yard during the day they don't let the dog out to play with them and he is pining and barking to get to join them. I don't know what the hell they have a dog for.

VickieVexed

Our two doggies are our babies, plain and simple. It's not rocket science, if you don't want to love, take care of and have an animal be a part of the family, get a bl***y garden gnome.

omega man

Dolbert wrote: »

Don't get me started on the people who completely neglect their pets the minute they have kids :mad: I understand that you're not gonna have the same amount of time for them as before, but this craic of suddenly putting the dog outside all the time because there's a kid in the house is just cruel.

Putting a dog outside is cruel? I'm assuming you mean a house type dog and not all dogs.

As someone who got a dog after having kids I think the integration is way better. I can kind of understand how someone with a dog who then has a first child could completely change their priorities. Looking after a child versus a dog is incomparable. In saying that there is absolutely no excuse for genuine neglect of a dog, nor any pet.

Leaving a dog outside more due to the arrival of a child is in no way neglect. We had another child after we had the dog a few years and she definitely is outside more but on the other hand we intentionally have her around the baby in our presence a lot so as to avoid any jealousy issues or indeed having her "put out" in any way. As much as I love the thing she's bottom of the hierarchy!

Buona Fortuna

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

Because people are cúnts who think a dog is just "a dog".

People make me sick sometimes. My Labrador (who is a pound rescue) is currently lieing at the end of the bed loving life ... He has a better life that me :rolleyes: little shîte doesn't even have a job :P

Sadly yes

We got ours from the rescue to. He's a collie/ Lab X. He's currwntly barking at foxes :cool:

kowloon

Some breeds of dog thrive outdoors, but if they live outside you have to make time for them. They need to be part of your pack.

My name is URL

Both are tied up at the back of the kitchen / conservatory on a one-metre lead

The owners should be made to spend three days in those conditions and reconsider if they really want 'pets'

Mince Pie

Should really stop reading threads like this. Got both my rescue furries snuggled on top of me. Neither are pedigree, got a lurcher and a terrier cross and they are my shadows.
All dogs want to do is please you, they are the most giving creatures and it breaks my frickin heart when I hear of people leaving them locked up like some ornament.

Magenta

Dolbert wrote: »

Don't get me started on the people who completely neglect their pets the minute they have kids :mad: I understand that you're not gonna have the same amount of time for them as before, but this craic of suddenly putting the dog outside all the time because there's a kid in the house is just cruel.

Or the Donedeal classic "4 month old puppy for sale. Having a baby next month and just won't have the time".

Why get a puppy when you're 4 months pregnant if you're not going to have the time once the baby is born???

Kobibd

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

council house-living

What is your issue with people that live in council houses? Anyone can use dogs as an accessory not just people in council houses so think about that.

I never even knew there was a pet adoption section on Adverts. It's the most enraging thing.

"year old lucher greyhound cross good bitch on the lamp reason for getting rid iv no time at the moment."

Jesus. You would almost think they would be embarrassed to be so outwardly horrible.

"I'm moving from a house to an apartment"

How about this for an idea, move somewhere you can bring your dog.


Horrible people. And some of them have kids on the way :rolleyes:

DBB

kneemos wrote: »

Started a thread on this very topic some time ago in the Pet Forum,I would say the majority of replies felt it was OK to keep your dog locked up.

Not fair kneemos, you're taking that thread out of context here, and misrepresenting what was actually said in it by the majority.
Broadly speaking this was that a dog run (as opposed to a crate) is a safe way to contain a dog temporarily whilst you're not at home to supervise, and that the dog should otherwise be spending time out of the run exercising, on walks, interacting with its owners, inside the house, having fun etc etc.
To suggest that the users of the Animals and Pets forum condone a dog being "locked up" in the context you're implying is grossly unfair.

bnagrrl

I have two Cavaliers. They sleep either in my room or in the kitchen. They are free to potter around the house but I generally close the bedroom doors as one like to jump and roll on freshly made beds. They get at least two walks a day, everyday. They even gave special coats to wear when it's raining. They get the best food, vets, toys, daily grooming, a warm place to sleep and lots of company and attention. They're both curled up on the couch now beside me, snoring away contentedly.

If you can't look after a dog properly do them a favour and don't get one in the first place.

Mountainsandh

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I never even knew there was a pet adoption section on Adverts. It's the most enraging thing.

"year old lucher greyhound cross good bitch on the lamp reason for getting rid iv no time at the moment."

Jesus. You would almost think they would be embarrassed to be so outwardly horrible.

"I'm moving from a house to an apartment"

How about this for an idea, move somewhere you can bring your dog.


Horrible people. And some of them have kids on the way :rolleyes:

I made the mistake of looking at that the other day, had to stop myself I was getting so cross.

I don't get the behaviour OP describes either, couldn't put my dog in a crate, but I do understand some people like to have them crate trained for sleeping and some situations. Mine are parasites, I'm in bed with the dog a dead weight on my legs as usual (in bed he turns into a floppy dead animal, tossed and lifted and rolled and squashed... And bumped sometimes ), and I have my night cat on too:D

I do love to see the understated complicity of old folks with their pets sometimes, they're not in each other's faces/legs all day, but they're companionably going about their routine.

I don't agree with the comment about dogs in town. I don't approve of big energetic dogs in town either, but I think there's many a smaller dog very happy with their town life, once they're part of the family and walked plenty. Better a well treated dog in an appartement than a neglected dog in a rural backyard IMO.

Bacon and Cabbage

I 100% agree that animal welfare is important and that people should care for their pets properly, but IMO, people can get a bit crazy sometimes when it comes to animals.

I recall a thread on here one time where the question posed was something like "Would you rather see a random human or random animal suffer", and there were seriously people arguing that they would rather see a human suffer

Mountainsandh

Ah yeah sure, there's a few going overboard alright. Generally though it's harmless enough.

kneemos

DBB wrote: »

Not fair kneemos, you're taking that thread out of context here, and misrepresenting what was actually said in it by the majority.
Broadly speaking this was that a dog run (as opposed to a crate) is a safe way to contain a dog temporarily whilst you're not at home to supervise, and that the dog should otherwise be spending time out of the run exercising, on walks, interacting with its owners, inside the house, having fun etc etc.
To suggest that the users of the Animals and Pets forum condone a dog being "locked up" in the context you're implying is grossly unfair.

If you say so,but quite a few did.

Charlie19

Just had a look at that adoption section on adverts, can't believe the amount of dogs after becoming available in such a short period of time.

If only had the room to take another dog on.

fonda

The Singing Beard wrote: »

And why does my friend insist on pedigree dogs from farms? Is it a fashion thing? Why not a loyal companion from a pound? I hate this pedigree dig snobbery. But that's a different rant, sorry :-p

Why the snobbery about rescue dogs as well. It seems to me like having a rescue dog is the latest fashion trend and anyone who dosent get there dog from the pound is looked down on, is a bad pet owner, and is at some stage going to abandon it.

I have a pedigree dog, seen a picture of her and wanted her, had no idea it was a full pedigree until I picked it up. Have had her 7 years, relocated her to two different countries and would never dream of neglecting or giving her away.

sonofenoch

Our next door neighbour (elderly woman and middle age son) have a beautiful German Shepherd....it's fed and watered and that's it, very little human contact and no excercise....spends it's days in a fenced in concrete garden, poor fella hasn't even a bit of grass to defecate in ......I'm often of a mind to jump the wall and bring him to a local park to stretch his legs but hay ho he has food and water, the bare minimum legal requirement for an animal.....what a waste