Is there any main brand of car you simply won't buy?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Regardless, you bought a ford focus diesel but you wouldnt buy a lexus?
That's just nonsensical tbh.

So a 1.6 diesel focus is better than an ls400 or a sc430, or the IS range?
Idiotic IMO - you should really think before you post sometimes.

I never once said it was better

OldMrBrennan83

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nc19

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

What's loathsome about an m5?

Idiot :rolleyes:

Everything

Ralphdejones

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Experience taught me that discounting any brand as "I would never own one" is a very, very, very silly thing to do.

I never liked much of the BMW design, thought "I'd never have one", then the E90 came out and I liked it - came within an inch from buying a 320i back in October.

I would say "I'd never buy a Toyota, dullest things on wheels", then the GT86 came out.

I could go on forever, I'm sure I could find examples for many of the brands.

Also, it is worth noticing that most people base their "I would never own a..." on hearsay, "common knowledge" about some brand reportedly being "unreliable"; A few had actually bad experiences, sometimes out of sheer bad luck, sometimes out of the "turn the key and go" attitude.

Which nicely illustrates that it's actual model that really determines if it's a good car or not, not the make or nationality.

bear1

djimi wrote: »

Seriously? I know of several people who have had terrible experiences with Rover for example. I have never driven one myself, and perhaps they are truely wonderful cars and I just know lots of unlucky people, but christ Id sooner walk than ever spend my hard earned money on one based on what I have seen of them.

I fail to believe for a second that if you knew of a brand/model of car that people that you knew were having trouble with that you wouldnt steer well clear of it.

Fair enough, i probably phrased what i meant badly. I wouldnt write a car off cause one said its bad but if many people did then it may affect my choice. If i listened to all the crap that was said about alfas or fiat id never have owned them but they have been the most reliable cars ive had

djimi

bear1 wrote: »

Fair enough, i probably phrased what i meant badly. I wouldnt write a car off cause one said its bad but if many people did then it may affect my choice. If i listened to all the crap that was said about alfas or fiat id never have owned them but they have been the most reliable cars ive had

Thats fair enough. There is a difference between seeing the problems first hand (through a friend/family member) and listening to "man in the pub" talk.

That said, I had a Fiat and it was a bit of a disaster, as was the Alfa that nearly broke my colleagues heart, so read into that what you will :pac:

Hachiko

Japanese cars are extremely reliable, I have photos of some nice Lexus cars but cant upload them, 5 litre f sports, clearly not as good as a daysul focus. I am seriously considering selling mine for the aul cheap tax and daysul spirit.

Ralphdejones

Hachiko wrote: »

Japanese cars are extremely reliable

I've seen many Nissans and and quite a few of the more recent Toyotas give a load of bother. The actual model and the engine fitted is a much better guide than make or nationality.

OldMrBrennan83

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Hachiko

Mazda/Mazda MPS, Lexus, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Honda petrols, all these are pretty bomb proof once looked after. I got a is250 and its superb. A lot of people are absolutely rose tinted towards German cars. Its like they suffer from some serious peripheral vision problems and cant see the world past Germany. Anything after that part of Europe doesn't exist.

Ralphdejones

Hachiko wrote: »

Mazda/Mazda MPS, Lexus, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Honda petrols, all these are pretty bomb proof once looked after. I got a is250 and its superb. A lot of people are absolutely rose tinted towards German cars. Its like they suffer from some serious peripheral vision problems and cant see the world past Germany. Anything after that part of Europe doesn't exist.

Jap lovers have the same bother

Hachiko

I have had a few BMWs and Fords too btw.

Voodoomelon

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Experience taught me that discounting any brand as "I would never own one" is a very, very, very silly thing to do.

I never liked much of the BMW design, thought "I'd never have one", then the E90 came out and I liked it - came within an inch from buying a 320i back in October.

I would say "I'd never buy a Toyota, dullest things on wheels", then the GT86 came out.

I could go on forever, I'm sure I could find examples for many of the brands.

Also, it is worth noticing that most people base their "I would never own a..." on hearsay, "common knowledge" about some brand reportedly being "unreliable"; A few had actually bad experiences, sometimes out of sheer bad luck, sometimes out of the "turn the key and go" attitude.

Would you buy a Ssangyong?

Ralphdejones

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Would you buy a Ssangyong?

I've never seen a model I like so at the moment no, but if they ever bring out a decent reliable model at a good price why not ? I feel the same about lots of other makes. The model is the determining factor for me, not the plastic makers badge on the front.

dgt

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Would you buy a Ssangyong?

Be the Chairman in your very own Chairman

Voodoomelon

That's cool. But to me if a brand hasn't a single car that id even remotely consider, over several years of production, with a poor image and bottom of the ladder status, that's grounds for dismissing the brand entirely.

Hachiko

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Would you buy a Ssangyong?

oh the rexton

worst car ever.

dr.fuzzenstein

A lot of it is "Me da's uncle's cousing had one in the 70's, awful yoke, dey're all shoite, would never own one!"

ZeroThreat

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

A lot of it is "Me da's uncle's cousing had one in the 70's, awful yoke, dey're all shoite, would never own one!"

Indeed, I'm still seething at FIAT for the Ritmo.......

H3llR4iser

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Would you buy a Ssangyong?

If they came out with something I like (and by like I mean the way it drives - make no mistake, the Toyota GT86 for example still looks cr@p like most Toyotas, but at least the driving makes up for it), I don't see why not.

quadrifoglio verde

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Would you buy a Ssangyong?

Musso for the win

H3llR4iser

JC01 wrote: »

I don't think that's why there's so much French-hate on here. This forum has mostly car-people on it and I'd say like myself a lot of car people hate the soulless plastic econoboxes that the French manufacturers pump out.

Mostly car-people on boards? Lol, must be the joke of the century:D. Most of the threads here are:

- Complaints about other drivers going too fasshhhht;
- High horse moralists willing to report their granny for driving her wheelchair without a safety helmet;
- People declaring the Skoda Octavia is the best car ever made;
- People salivating about a Civic's boot space (and crying about the aforementioned Octavia's loss of a record);
- Random Alfa-Fiat-Renault-Peugeot bashing;
- People claiming a Ford Focus is more stylish than an Alfa or a Lexus;

As Yoda would say, "Few BMW fanatics car-people place boards do not make!"

jca

BMW, overpriced junk.

jca

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Mostly car-people on boards? Lol, must be the joke of the century:D. Most of the threads here are:

- Complaints about other drivers going too fasshhhht;
- High horse moralists willing to report their granny for driving her wheelchair without a safety helmet;
- People declaring the Skoda Octavia is the best car ever made;
- People salivating about a Civic's boot space (and crying about the aforementioned Octavia's loss of a record);
- Random Alfa-Fiat-Renault-Peugeot bashing;
- People claiming a Ford Focus is more stylish than an Alfa or a Lexus;

As Yoda would say, "Few BMW fanatics car-people place boards do not make!"

Dumbest post of the thread so far. It took longer than usual for a Troll to arrive, a bit like trains I suppose:cool::cool:

H3llR4iser

jca wrote: »

BMW, overpriced junk.

jca wrote: »

Dumbest post of the thread so far. It took longer than usual for a Troll to arrive, a bit like trains I suppose:cool::cool:

Brilliant, entering the thread on page 14 with such interesting contributions. And spectacular sense of humor to booth

JC01

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Mostly car-people on boards? Lol, must be the joke of the century:D. Most of the threads here are:

- Complaints about other drivers going too fasshhhht;
- High horse moralists willing to report their granny for driving her wheelchair without a safety helmet;
- People declaring the Skoda Octavia is the best car ever made;
- People salivating about a Civic's boot space (and crying about the aforementioned Octavia's loss of a record);
- Random Alfa-Fiat-Renault-Peugeot bashing;
- People claiming a Ford Focus is more stylish than an Alfa or a Lexus;

As Yoda would say, "Few BMW fanatics car-people place boards do not make!"

Well feck it anyways you've ruined my point...

goz83

Lada. Anyone?:P

ZeroThreat

ZeroThreat wrote: »

Indeed, I'm still seething at FIAT for the Ritmo.......

Mark. 1 was decent for the time.
105tc was a beauty.

jca

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Brilliant, entering the thread on page 14 with such interesting contributions. And spectacular sense of humor to booth

Photo booth? Hence the smiley face I presume?

djimi

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

A lot of it is "Me da's uncle's cousing had one in the 70's, awful yoke, dey're all shoite, would never own one!"

Judging by this thread youd swear this is something that is unique to motoring...

Its human nature; you hear of people having a bad experience with anything and you tend to naturally (and understandably) steer clear of whatever it was. Everyone does it, despite what they might say or think. Best mate didnt enjoy their trip to Portugal? You wont be going there. Uncle John and Aunty Mary ate at such and such restaurant and said the food wasnt great and it was a bit expensive? Youre not likely to be paying it a visit any time soon. Such is life.