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Irish backpacker in Australia charged with death of her baby

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    #32
    eviltwin
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    Poor girl. My first pregnancy was only discovered at 4 months. I had no symptoms and no bump until month 8 and that can be very common with a first baby especially in a young woman apparently. I really don't see why she would be sent to prison for this, the baby was stillborn. How awful for her.


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    #33
    brooke 2
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    Any key? wrote: »
    I didn't mean giving birth. I meant looking for help either during or afterwards?
    Poor girl I guess it would be too hard to understand what thoughts were going through her mind anyway.

    I would imagine once she realised the horror of what was happening to her body, instinct took over. Not many thought processes involved in situations like that, I
    would say.


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    #34
    OrangeVarnish
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    How sad for all, and her family in Ireland being so far from her.


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    #35
    Fred Swanson
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    #36
    Buona Fortuna
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    OrangeVarnish wrote: »
    How sad for all, and her family in Ireland being so far from her.

    I know, I've a neice out there. She's a smart "kid" but we'd be devasted if something like this happened to her - never mind her Mum and Dad.


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    Red Pepper
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    If they find the body and it can be proved that the baby was alive when abandoned she should be charged with murder.

    Stating the obvious?


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    #38
    Tokyo
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    It seems that the woman in question is being allowed to return home...

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-woman-charged-with-hiding-birth-of-baby-in-australia-can-return-home-30505325.html


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    #39
    B0jangles
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    mike_ie wrote: »
    It seems that the woman in question is being allowed to return home...

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-woman-charged-with-hiding-birth-of-baby-in-australia-can-return-home-30505325.html


    It's absolutely shocking that they are still planning on taking her to court considering the following statement:
    Local magistrate wrote:
    Chief Magistrate Steven Heath said the maximum penalty for the offence was a two-year jail term and delays until at least next year were likely.
    Mr Heath said without trivialising the matter, nothing more serious was alleged than the concealing the birth.


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    #40
    Tokyo
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    I would imagine that they may just be going through the motions of due process. 5 minutes in the courtroom, long enough for someone to say "this girl's been through enough, case dismissed".

    They may not even bother bringing her back for it - I doubt they'd be handing her back her passport and telling her to go home to be with ehr family if they felt that there was anything to worry about.


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    Fred Swanson
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    #42
    Egginacup
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    The baby was stillborn. This could mean that it died in the womb. It could have died after 5 or 6 months. There would have been no further growth so she wouldn't have displayed the belly, felt any kicks or needed to "eat for 2" so to speak. I read about a poor Afghan woman whose child died inside her and stayed that way for years. She was carrying around a completely calcified child in her womb.

    I hope this backpacker girl isn't punished too harshly. Pregnant women are not in the normal frame of mind.


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    #43
    kylith
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    Any key? wrote: »
    I didn't mean giving birth. I meant looking for help either during or afterwards?
    Poor girl I guess it would be too hard to understand what thoughts were going through her mind anyway.

    I guess that it was her mind's way of trying to protect her; if she didn't tell anyone then it wasn't real, it didn't happen, and her psyche could bury it.


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    #44
    Egginacup
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    If they find the body and it can be proved that the baby was alive when abandoned she should be charged with murder.

    Oh, boy. There's always one who can't get beyond their own desire for revenge, or punishment, or retribution. Empathy is just an alien concept.


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