Abbotstown Velodrome?

nak · 01-08-2014 5:19pm

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

I'd also wonder if the current coaching staff will need to run through new coaching training considering the difference the banking causes. They're all experienced with "proper" banking, but I just wonder.

Health and safety, the accreditation will be much stricter. Diving off the banking on a full drome is nowhere near what it's like in Sundrive.

I would have thought that an indoor velodrome would be run by fulltime staff. Some new coaches would need to be trained to keep up with demand.

Indoor accreditation is a bit more in depth, but riding the banking is fairly straightforward.

Beasty · 01-08-2014 5:26pm

Different coaching skills are definitely required for the indoor track. At least one of the current coaches does have extensive experience of such tracks (as will be the case with some of the High Performance guys), but I would have thought there would be additional training proivided ahead of a track opening, possibly by sending some of the experienced coaches to an overseas track for a session or two.

Oh, and just to make it clear - Hugh is still a relative youngster ....

Muahahaha · 06-08-2014 12:42am

Don't know much about velodromes. Would you need to have a specialist bike to ride one? Like the bikes you see them use in the Olympics or is it possible to just use a regular road bike? Also is track cycling typically short sprints/races or would you ever have something like a 50km cycle on a track ?

nak · 06-08-2014 6:00am

Muahahaha wrote: »

Don't know much about velodromes. Would you need to have a specialist bike to ride one? Like the bikes you see them use in the Olympics or is it possible to just use a regular road bike? Also is track cycling typically short sprints/races or would you ever have something like a 50km cycle on a track ?

Track bike required, hire bikes are always available. Points and scratch races are longer, I think up to 30km for men.

Harrybelafonte · 06-08-2014 11:24am

Muahahaha wrote: »

Don't know much about velodromes. Would you need to have a specialist bike to ride one? Like the bikes you see them use in the Olympics or is it possible to just use a regular road bike? Also is track cycling typically short sprints/races or would you ever have something like a 50km cycle on a track ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_cycling

Beasty · 06-08-2014 12:38pm

In terms of "official" distances, I think only the Madison (which is a 2 man team race with riders "swapping" with their teammate into the race frequently, so they effectively share the load) goes up to 50km, with the points race 40km and scratch 20km

Clearly fitting such longer races into a track session can be difficult, so these distances tend to be reserved for the major championships

Of course, if you have the wherewithal to hire a track to yourself you can always go for an hour record ....

kumate_champ07 · 06-08-2014 2:45pm

these are half price right now and would make great training/league racing tubs for when it opens

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/vittoria-pista-cs-tubular-road-tyre/rp-prod109591

no puncture belt so not recommended for Sundrive, but they should be ok

eeeee · 13-03-2015 7:31pm

Yeahie

http://www.cyclingireland.ie/cycling-news-item/planning-permission-granted-for-velodrome/545

Beasty · 13-03-2015 7:36pm

That was the easy bit.

Now for:

The next step in this process is to secure funding for the build

Hands in pockets guys .....

Lusk_Doyle · 13-03-2015 7:41pm

Beasty wrote: »

That was the easy bit.

Now for:

Hands in pockets guys .....

No problem but it will be some name assuming we all get a mention?

"I am pleased to officially open the Beasty Harrybelafonte .... velodrome!"

Beasty · 13-03-2015 7:43pm

That's a bit of a mouthful - think the Harrybelafonte bit needs dropping.....

The tax man · 13-03-2015 9:18pm

Beasty wrote: »

That's a bit of a mouthful - think the Harrybelafonte bit needs dropping.....

The Beasty Bowl.

lennymc · 14-03-2015 12:25am

Beasty wrote: »

That's a bit of a mouthful - think the Harrybelafonte bit needs dropping.....

I thought it was normally you who were dropped beasty...

Beasty · 14-03-2015 12:31am

lennymc wrote: »

I thought it was normally you who were dropped beasty...

Only on the club spins lenny .....

Harrybelafonte · 15-10-2015 9:03pm

It has been announced by the government that there is no longer any money available as proposed for a velodrome

C-Shore · 15-10-2015 9:06pm

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

It has been announced by the government that there is no longer any money available as proposed for a velodrome

Really?

Will this impact the rest of the development at Abbottstwon, or just this?

Harrybelafonte · 15-10-2015 9:07pm

C-Shore wrote: »

Really?

Will this impact the rest of the development at Abbottstwon, or just this?

I red the article through a mist of red so I don't know, but I don't think so.

stecleary · 15-10-2015 10:26pm

I had a dream a few weeks ago this happened, i then won the euro millions and built the velodrome myself but not in Abbotstown in Swords.
I had a similar dream on Sunday night after a few drinks but this time i didnt have enough money to build it so had to invite badminton Ireland in on the deal , Can remember both dreams as clear as day.
Tomorrows Euromillions is €15M, I'm going the shop for a quick pick, i wont be spending my millions on a velodrome tho

Kaisr Sose · 15-10-2015 10:29pm

There was surplus cash but they loaned it to an at arms length, fully commercial, non state assisted utility!

Knowing our planners, they would probably approve and allow it to be built with the wrong materials, to the wrong size etc etc!

Yea, I know, I have so little faith

Harrybelafonte · 15-10-2015 10:32pm

Guess it'll be trips abroad for the next few years again so.

eeeee · 15-10-2015 11:19pm

Oh for fúck sake :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Muahahaha · 15-10-2015 11:24pm

terrible news, we really do get the dross we vote for. Anyone know how much funding would have been needed? No doubt its a drop in the ocean compared to the €14bn the HSE costs a year, every year

Beasty · 15-10-2015 11:29pm

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

It has been announced by the government that there is no longer any money available as proposed for a velodrome

It was never announced that there was any funding available. All they have said is it's not being funded in the current Budget round. It's next on the "list" and may get the required funding at next year's Budget

RobFowl · 15-10-2015 11:36pm

Beasty wrote: »

It was never announced that there was any funding available. All they have said is it's not being funded in the current Budget round. It's next on the "list" and may get the required funding at next year's Budget

You haven't been living here long enough

Harrybelafonte · 16-10-2015 7:56am

Beasty wrote: »

It was never announced that there was any funding available. All they have said is it's not being funded in the current Budget round. It's next on the "list" and may get the required funding at next year's Budget

"The Department of Sport said that almost €25 million was being provided for the development of the National Sports Campus, including completion of the National Indoor Arena"

This is in the Sticky Bottle article referencing Budget 2016. The velodrome was to be part of the National Sports Campus.

Where did you read it was "next" on the list?

Beasty · 16-10-2015 9:49am

The national indoor arena is not the velodrome. There has never been any funding allocated to the velodrome

The "next on the list" comment was based on discussions with some of those who I consider to be "in the know"

lennymc · 16-10-2015 10:03am

<<<< slowly hangs bike back on the wall

Harrybelafonte · 16-10-2015 10:14am

Beasty wrote: »

The national indoor arena is not the velodrome. There has never been any funding allocated to the velodrome

The "next on the list" comment was based on discussions with some of those who I consider to be "in the know"

I never said it was. I said it was to be part of the Sports Campus.

If we were to go on comments made by people "in the know", we'd have had it built already.

If you REALLY want to be pedantic about this Beasty, I never said they had promised any money for the velodrome. I said it was "proposed", which I believe it was, i.e. that CI and Badminton Ireland and the state would provide funds for its development.

Harrybelafonte · 16-10-2015 10:14am

lennymc wrote: »

<<<< slowly hangs bike back on the wall

Why? Sundrive is still there and there are indoor velodromes all over Europe, within cheap flying distance.

Beasty · 16-10-2015 10:35am

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

I never said it was. I said it was to be part of the Sports Campus.

If we were to go on comments made by people "in the know", we'd have had it built already.

If you REALLY want to be pedantic about this Beasty, I never said they had promised any money for the velodrome. I said it was "proposed", which I believe it was, i.e. that CI and Badminton Ireland and the state would provide funds for its development.

You said there was "no longer" any money available. My point is there has never been any money available. SB are trying to make a story out of nothing here. Funding was always expected to be down the line. It not all going to come from the Government either. Both Badminton and Cycling will be expected to find some of the cash

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