UFC Fight Night 53 - Nelson vs Story

That_Guy · 04-10-2014 9:55pm

"Give us a smile there Rick"

:pac:

Glock Lesnar · 04-10-2014 9:57pm

Gunnar is one fighter that will get technically better every fight but I'm not sure he'll ever be good enough to make up for his disadvantages in size. Even Machida had to drop a division.

Gumbi · 04-10-2014 9:59pm

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Gunnar is one fighter that will get technically better every fight but I'm not sure he'll ever be good enough to make up for his disadvantages in size. Even Machida had to drop a division.

He's still small for MW, he weighed 202 for LHW and had more fat on him. He weighed about 190 when he fought Weidman (see embedded) and it showed. He could easily fight at WW and not lose any muscle mass (which is a terrifying prospect - but doesn't have to, his TDD is unreal and he has nasty striking). Weidman is a huge MW though and weighs about 210 in the cage.

Kev M · 04-10-2014 9:59pm

Crazy scorecards, but good decision. Story won that fight. Pretty impressed with Story, very strong for a smaller guy, solid wrestling, solid chin, can punch... Once it was apparent Gunny couldn't bully him grappling, it was always an uphill battle.

JacksonHeightsOwn · 04-10-2014 9:59pm

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Gunnar is one fighter that will get technically better every fight but I'm not sure he'll ever be good enough to make up for his disadvantages in size. Even Machida had to drop a division.

Fair point and id tend to agree. If i was Gunni id have an out of competition go at making 155.

I know it's easy for me to say it while I'm sitting down drinking beer and eating crisps but I've seen the grub gunni puts away for lunch first hand in a cafe around the corner from sbg, and the man can down his grub!!

CurryFlavoured · 04-10-2014 10:00pm

I wonder what Gunni walks around at. He isn't completely lean and I don't think he cuts much weight so I imagine he could drop a division possibly, or alternatively spend some time putting on a bit of extra muscle for power. Might seem a bit knee-jerk but things aren't going to get any easier from here.

IrishSkyBoxer · 04-10-2014 10:00pm

Couple of lucky wins for Connor are making sbg look much better than they are. Kavanagh has a lot to learn. Pendred looked like dog shiit tonight and Gunnar was septic. Dave Jones will be smiling tonight.

Glock Lesnar · 04-10-2014 10:01pm

Gumbi wrote: »

He's still small for MW, he weighed 202 for LHW and had more fat on him. He weighed about 190 when he fought Weidman (see embedded) and it showed. He could easily fight at WW and not lose any muscle mass. Weidman is a huge MW though and weighs about 210 in the cage.

He's very cut at MW, I can't imagine him losing another 15 lbs without dropping some size.

Gumbi · 04-10-2014 10:01pm

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

I wonder what Gunni walks around at. He isn't completely lean and I don't think he cuts much weight so I imagine he could drop a division possibly, or alternatively spend some time putting on a bit of extra muscle for power. Might seem a bit knee-jerk but things aren't going to get any easier from here.

Easily. He weighed 175 in a CW bout recently where his opponent weighed 183.

peteeeed · 04-10-2014 10:01pm

Ufc fight night Stockholm , curse of the Vikings

Glock Lesnar · 04-10-2014 10:02pm

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

Couple of lucky wins for Connor are making sbg look much better than they are. Kavanagh has a lot to learn. Pendred looked like dog shiit tonight and Gunnar was septic. Dave Jones will be smiling tonight.

I know you're trolling but I don't think you're totally wrong with regards to SBG, calling Conor's wons lucky is making anything you say invalid though.

CurryFlavoured · 04-10-2014 10:03pm

It was a bit weird how calm Kavanagh was. It was obvious by round 3 that Gunni was in for a massive battle.

mailburner · 04-10-2014 10:03pm

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

50-44 wasn't that outrageous, the knockdown was worthy of a 10-8 and I don't think Gunnar won any rounds clearly.

agreed

far more scandalous was one judge giving gunni the verdict
that to me would have been one of the worst calls of all time

darced · 04-10-2014 10:07pm

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Mr. CooL ICE · 04-10-2014 10:07pm

Credit where credit is due, Story looked fantastic. He had a perfect gameplan and stuck to it. Disagree with the 50-44 though

Glock Lesnar · 04-10-2014 10:07pm

I can't understand why everyone at SBG isn't a top level boxer, it's something that serves McGregor so well and there's a great boxing tradition in this country. Pendred's striking is glacial, it's slow and it's not technical. Gunnar's unorthodox style works but if he could switch it up to a traditional boxing style he could catch opponents off guard.

darced · 04-10-2014 10:13pm

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darced · 04-10-2014 10:17pm

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Glock Lesnar · 04-10-2014 10:21pm

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I'm not sure he's as athletic or really as physically gifted in any way. He's not as intimidating either, Story would never have imposed himself on Conor like that.

Gumbi · 04-10-2014 10:23pm

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

He's very cut at MW, I can't imagine him losing another 15 lbs without dropping some size.

People are weighing more than Machida when they fight at WW by cutting lots of water.

mailburner · 04-10-2014 10:23pm

think this win will make gunni better but not sure he will ever be a top 5 guy
that imo was evident against cummings
story the first big test and by far the best he has faced so far

must admit when story beat hendricks and alves I honestly thought he was 2/3 fights away from fighting for the belt, takes a fight against brenneman
at short notice which he lost and loses a couple more fights to opponents like
pyle who he's much better than
always wondered what happened to story, really hope he goes on a run now

Glock Lesnar · 04-10-2014 10:30pm

He looks very dry at 185, the cut to 170 would leave him drained.

Gumbi wrote: »

People are weighing more than Machida when they fight at WW by cutting lots of water.

Gumbi · 04-10-2014 11:18pm

Nope. Check him at LHW. He would weighed in at 202. Some WWs are WEIGH 200 in the cage. And Machida weighs less than he did at LHW (less fat on him). He would FOR SURE be able to fight WW IF he wanted. But he does rely on his speed so maybe he doesn't want to.