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Dock road mural

  • 23-07-2014 8:52pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭


    Anyone know what the painting of a guy is on the building on the dock road?Looks awful


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,883 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    bigpink wrote: »
    Anyone know what the painting of a guy is on the building on the dock road?Looks awful

    It's part of Our Nation's Sons by Joe Caslin. You're the first person I've heard saying they don't like it.

    There's another on the corner of O'Connell Street and Mallow Street.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,472 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    It an urban art thing. Part of the city of culture. There's 4 or 5 of them on other buildings around town as well. I agree it looks awful.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Something more colorful or cheery would have been better I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Lurching


    Any pictures?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭vkid


    bigpink wrote: »
    Anyone know what the painting of a guy is on the building on the dock road?Looks awful

    I think its fantastic. Very striking and I'm usually a critic of a lot of arty farty stuff. Some of the street art around Limerick is very impressive IMO.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Some of the street art around is nice like what they they the laneways


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,472 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    It's part of Our Nation's Sons by Joe Caslin. You're the first person I've heard saying they don't like it.

    There's another on the corner of O'Connell Street and Mallow Street.

    Well I'm a second person. It reminds me of the hoodied shams with their walking sticks and their track pants tucked into their socks that you see around town. It's not the image of the city that I think we should be promoting.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Exactly my thoughts looks like a scobe


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,472 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Great art and skilll I agree but so big and on a main road.what would tourists in the Clarion and Dolans think


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    vkid wrote: »
    I think its fantastic. Very striking and I'm usually a critic of a lot of arty farty stuff. Some of the street art around Limerick is very impressive IMO.



    The only bad thing I can say about a lot of the street art in the city and the outskirts is that there is not more of it.


    Some of it is fantastically well done, and even the ones I am not so keen on I would not want gone because the alternative is going to be a drab grey wall.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    I am loving all the art popping up around the city. Especially the garden on Thomas st.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    bigpink wrote: »
    Great art and skilll I agree but so big and on a main road.what would tourists in the Clarion and Dolans think



    Would imagine it would be a conversation piece if nothing else. If it gets people talking about it and heading down to see what the talk is about, then it is worthwhile imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    I am loving all the art popping up around the city. Especially the garden on Thomas st.


    That is particularly good. I love the wall art up by King John's castle as well. I know it is not new, but is such a lively work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭pigtown


    Well I'm a second person. It reminds me of the hoodied shams with their walking sticks and their track pants tucked into their socks that you see around town. It's not the image of the city that I think we should be promoting.
    That's the whole idea http://joecaslin.com/category/portfolio/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Kess73 wrote: »
    That is particularly good. I love the wall art up by King John's castle as well. I know it is not new, but is such a lively work.

    The Hello Kitty Ice cream guy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    With Limericks image problem think the mural should have been more positive no doubt money was payed for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    The Hello Kitty Ice cream guy?


    I like to call him the Eye Scream Man.

    Am a big fan of Henry Rollins in all his guises, and the book Eye scream came to mind when I first wandered past the mural by the castle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    bigpink wrote: »
    With Limericks image problem think the mural should have been more positive no doubt money was payed for it



    It is what people want it to be in terms of being negative or positive. The fact it is getting reactions and starting conversation suggests that it is thought provoking at the very least.


    If it was my work, then I would be delighted to hear stuff like you have being staying just as much as I would be by hearing folks saying they love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭badboyblast


    The piece is excellent, a hooded top is just a piece of clothing, I have never witnessed "shams "with canes and white socks walking in Limerick city, I know there was a picture doing the rounds on the internet all right at one stage.

    Do not judge a person by the clothes they wear, lots of people wear hooded tops every day and are not shams, its what young people wear and this picture represents the youth of Ireland and depicts it perfectly.

    Limericks image is driven by the outside media and not the Limerick media, every day of the week there is murders all over the country and Limerick is very quiet, you should take a walk around any of the Luas stops in Dublin and you will see scumbags.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Its good art no doubt but alot if people are thinking why a sham why not a hurler rugby player historic figure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭badboyblast


    bigpink wrote: »
    Its good art no doubt but alot if people are thinking why a sham why not a hurler rugby player historic figure

    I think your missing the point , its not a sham, your impression of a sham is anyone in a hoodie.......the character in the painting is a young man, if the same painting was in England or America do you think the public would look at it and go ...a scumbag, no.

    Anyway we have lots of hurling statues and random people around the place who 90% of the youth cannot relate too or even know who they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    bigpink wrote: »
    Its good art no doubt but alot if people are thinking why a sham why not a hurler rugby player historic figure


    Why not a young guy with his hood pulled up? It is up to those who look at it to decide what the piece makes them think of. You seeing it as a sham is no less valid a reaction than someone else seeing a random kid in a hoodie.

    If it was a rugby player then I am sure plenty of folk would like it and plenty would be rolling their eyes and saying "not bloody rugby again, there is more to Limerick than rugby"



    A historic figure would be good, but would love it to be someone a bit obscure like Jack Monday (he who has the coffee shop named after him) or something to do withthe Limerick Soviet.


    Would also love to see Richard Harris pop up in a few places. His two best roles, Bull McCabe (The Field) and Frank Machin (This Sporting Life),
    would be ideal to be put on walls in Limerick city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭badboyblast


    A limerick artist called Peter Byrne painted a Richard Harris piece at the make a move festival a few weeks back, here is the link, hopefully it will work, it in beside the cahill may roberts old building


    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204279969659661&set=a.1629552058950.2091935.1241068634&type=1&theater


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    I'm a big fan of it. Might stroll through town tomorrow afternoon to see some of the other pieces. There's some great stuff on the corner of Thomas Street by the carpark as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭vkid


    http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/ontherecord/2014/07/07/the-boy-in-the-hoodie/

    Good article on it.
    Thomas street is class and the one on William street. I love the 2 near king johns as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    A limerick artist called Peter Byrne painted a Richard Harris piece at the make a move festival a few weeks back, here is the link, hopefully it will work, it in beside the cahill may roberts old building


    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204279969659661&set=a.1629552058950.2091935.1241068634&type=1&theater


    Never knew that was done. Will have to make an effort to go and have a look at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,980 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I did the curator for the People of Limerick twitter account a few weeks back, I took and tweeted photos of most of the street art and got nothing but complementary tweets in return.

    I think the whole idea is great for the city and I think the one on Ranks is brilliant, certainly the first negative comment I heard or seen of it was the OP here.

    I haven't seen the one on Mallow street yet but the photos of it look impressive.

    My favourite is the eye scream man near King John's Castle

    Edit to add the one on William St is brilliant too, eye catching.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    It must have taken ages to paint but deffo think its not a good theme of image.is it a local artist?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    phog wrote: »
    I did the curator for the People of Limerick twitter account a few weeks back, I took and tweeted photos of most of the street art and got nothing but complementary tweets in return.

    I think the whole idea is great for the city and I think the one on Ranks is brilliant, certainly the first negative comment I heard or seen of it was the OP here.

    I haven't seen the one on Mallow street yet but the photos of it look impressive.

    My favourite is the eye scream man near King John's Castle

    Edit to add the one on William St is brilliant too, eye catching.


    Hey I charge for the use of that name. I want a cheeseburger left on the west end of Shannon bridge at 19:00 each day for a week :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It would be more impressive if they coloured it in.

    As it stands it is morose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    bigpink wrote: »
    It must have taken ages to paint but deffo think its not a good theme of image.is it a local artist?


    It is but one piece of art to be seen around the city. Some provoke positive responses, some provoke negative ones.

    The Dock road one provokes a negative reaction for you, and if truth be told it provokes some dark thoughts in me when I see it. I have taken to imagining little slogans under it.

    Things like



    Future? What Future?



    You don't want to see me


    and


    Never had a chance.



    I have also gotten into the habit of humming one of two songs when I see it.

    Pink Floyd's Another Brick In The Wall pt 1

    Daddy's flown across the ocean
    Leaving just a memory
    Snapshot in the family album
    Daddy what else did you leave for me?
    Daddy, what'd'ja leave behind for me?!?
    All in all it was just a brick in the wall.
    All in all it was all just bricks in the wall.

    "You! Yes, you! Stand still laddy!


    or Stone Sour's Tired which is mainly down to the line
    I'm just too young to care


    But negative, positive, dark, or light, I think a reaction to it is a good thing. Would be an awful waste if it sat there and everyone that went by did not feel anything at all when they looked at it, and it just was something that was hiding in plain sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,980 ✭✭✭✭phog


    catallus wrote: »
    It would be more impressive if they coloured it in.

    As it stands it is morose.

    Is that not part of it though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    phog wrote: »
    Is that not part of it though?

    I should hope not....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭jonski


    I have to say I absolutely love the recent street art , love it , love that it's in Limerick , love that it's here during the tourist season , love the type of art it is , love the themes and particularly love the one on the dock road .

    The Eye Scream Man is my favourite though ( if that was your Mustang outside Finnegans on Sunday Kess I could have bought you the burger then , too late now :( ) .

    The negative thing I can think to say about it is it probably won't be there into the future , it makes our city a lot more interesting .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,980 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Some for the street art photos that I tweeted from the people of Limerick twitter account

    Bank Place

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    Behind BT

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    William St

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    Roches St

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    Athlunkard St

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    Anne Street - Diversty Garden

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    Ranks

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    Nicholas St

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    Lighting on Foxes Bow

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    I think they are great. It takes away from a lot of the dull lifeless buildings we now have in the city. It's getting people talking about the city and lots want to take pictures etc.. Of the art and it seems to be spreading far. I see know harm and only good to it.

    The one on the dock road to me was just a lad in a hoodie. I certainly didn't think it was a scumbag. Pretty much the same as the type of hoodies a lot of people wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    Kess73 wrote: »
    The Dock road one provokes a negative reaction for you,

    It must be a particularly disturbing piece to provoke a negative reaction from bigpink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    I think it would look rather cool if they coloured it in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    catallus wrote: »
    I think it would look rather cool if they coloured it in.

    It's much better in black & white. Much more stark.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭redron74


    That one on William Street is great. It masks one of the ugliest lumps of concrete in the city (its ugliness amplified by the beautiful brickwork on either side of it). There should be some effort made to maintain this one permanently.

    I really like the young lads in hoodies. I prefer the one on Mallow Street to the one on the Dock Road. The scale is impressive. and I think the simplicity of the sketch helps create that "space" for interpretation and discussion. As a society, I think we need to be talking a lot more about and with young people, not talking at them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Street art is very good. A few people who randomly were in Limerick the last few days and who are into drawing etc have commented on how great they look and were not expecting to see this type of thing around the town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    Is there another one between Gerald Griffin St & High St?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    It must be a particularly disturbing piece to provoke a negative reaction from bigpink



    No need to be trying to have a poke. Bigpink is as welcome as any other poster to express a view on the art, and if that happens to be a negative one then so be it.

    The thread is tipping away nicely, so let's not have it dragged off topic by little nips at another poster. You might mean what you say in a joking manner but that does not mean everyone will see it that way. Would prefer to be able to leave my mod hat off in this thread, as it has the potential for some interesting chat as well as for letting folk know about street art that they may not have been aware of beforehand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    It's much better in black & white. Much more stark.

    I'm not much of an artist, tbh, but I know what I like! :P

    Is "stark" really what public-art should be? I'm just saying, if they coloured it in then it would look nicer. I only pass Limerick now and again, but I've seen that mad-looking fella with the icecream online and what saves it from being a menacingly aggressive image is the inspired use of glossy colour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Xennon


    The city would make a fantastic street art gallery considering the bleakness of some of the buildings around. Should be arranged permanently.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    catallus wrote: »
    I'm not much of an artist, tbh, but I know what I like! :P

    Is "stark" really what public-art should be? I'm just saying, if they coloured it in then it would look nicer. I only pass Limerick now and again, but I've seen that mad-looking fella with the icecream online and what saves it from being a menacingly aggressive image is the inspired use of glossy colour.

    I think the black and white effect works because people tend to expect colour. It's an exception even amongst its sister-pieces around the city, so it stands out even more than your usual 30 foot tall portrait! :pac:

    One of the criticisms of the City of Culture so far is that it doesn't often seem to cater to the average person on the street. I don't think anyone could level that claim against the paintings around town. This one captures certain aspects of youth and city culture pretty well. That isn't always pretty, but it can't be ignored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,980 ✭✭✭✭phog


    catallus wrote: »
    I'm not much of an artist, tbh, but I know what I like! :P

    Is "stark" really what public-art should be? I'm just saying, if they coloured it in then it would look nicer. I only pass Limerick now and again, but I've seen that mad-looking fella with the icecream online and what saves it from being a menacingly aggressive image is the inspired use of glossy colour.

    I think the whole effect from the paining would be lost if it was coloured in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭wingnut


    Kess73 wrote: »
    I like to call him the Eye Scream Man.

    I have a real problem with this mural. Its well done and looks good but I HATE the placement of it beside the castle. I think a historical mural with Sarsfield or similar would be more fitting in such close proximity to the castle. By all means have eye scream man somewhere else in the city its nice and colourful but I don't think its juxtaposition against the castle is appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭wingnut


    I have never witnessed "shams "with canes and white socks walking in Limerick city.

    I live in the county so only in the city from time to time but I have certainly seen individuals fitting that description a number of times.


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