The joy of the beep !

Twas Not

Is there anything more satisfying that a good blast of the horn in the direction of wrong doers in the road. Both as a warning and a punishment of shame.

I blasted a cyclist off the road yesterday afternoon when they shot out of a side road onto a main road. I may have saved their lives if they are too scared to return to our roads.

Renegade Mechanic

Twas Not wrote: »

Is there anything more satisfying that a good blast of the horn in the direction of wrong doers in the road. Both as a warning and a punishment of shame.

I blasted a cyclist off the road yesterday afternoon when they shot out of a side road onto a main road. I may have saved their lives if they are too scared to return to our roads.

I must say, thats rather impressive. Still, you should have been done for public urination..

No Pants

I wouldn't find being a dick that satisfying. I also find using the horn while driving to be counterproductive.

Twas Not

No Pants wrote: »

I wouldn't find being a dick that satisfying. I also find using the horn while driving to be counterproductive.

Counterproductive how? The horn is an essential safety device (as tested by NCT) and should be used (appropriately obviously !)

FearDark

The old blast of the horn didn't help during the week when a tractor and trailer stopped dead on the road and reversed into me destroying the front of the van. Deaf farmers.

Bpmull

I have to say I never use the horn unless it was a really extreme situation where someone was going to hit me and didn't see me. But I don't just use it to inform road users that they made mistakes. I wouldn't like people beeping at me and why would I beep at them. I often see aswell if a driver is doing a manoeuvre and holding up trafic and everyone is beeping they will get panicked and stall the car. I don't know why you would want to put someone in that situation specially.

djimi

No Pants wrote: »

I wouldn't find being a dick that satisfying. I also find using the horn while driving to be counterproductive.

Depends on the situation tbh. If someone is about to do something that looks like it could involve me in an accident then I have no problem blasting the horn (ie exiting a roundabout from the wrong lane).

Or sometimes its just a way to vent frustration at a dickhead road user that isnt going to lead to a GBH charge :P

Oink

I f'ing hate people who beep when they're annoyed or something. The horn was not designed to express your inner feelings and emotions about how the bad man in the car hurt your feelings waaah wah wah. I dont give a $£@& about your feelings about that other driver. Shut the f up and leave me out of it.

Rant over.

Not addressed at anyone here obviously!!

djimi

Oink wrote: »

I f'ing hate people who beep when they're annoyed or something. The horn was not designed to express your inner feelings and emotions about how the bad man in the car hurt your feelings waaah wah wah. I dont give a $£@& about your feelings about that other driver. Shut the f up and leave me out of it.

Rant over.

Not addressed at anyone here obviously!!

Why would it bother you in the slightest? Unless you are the person getting beeped at of course.

The only times that a car horn ever bother me is either when its in a housing estate and its some prat blowing to let someone know that they are outside, or when its a gob****e blowing away in a traffic jam or something that nobody can do anything about.

Oink

Personal opinion i guess. For me its the equivalent of two low-lives shouting at each other across the street. I dont care what they re on about, i'm not interested, and I want them to shut up or get a room.

Edit: unless the horn is used as a safety device obviously.

No Pants

Twas Not wrote: »

Counterproductive how? The horn is an essential safety device (as tested by NCT) and should be used (appropriately obviously !)

It's rarely used as a warning, more as a way of expressing annoyance. Even when it is used as a warning, people tend to react badly. I normally just adjust my driving to take account of whatever nuisance someone has just made of themselves and leave it like that. A competent driver can generally spot upcoming dickery. If needs be, maybe three or four flashes of the lights to signal danger. Beeping the horn is just a distraction.

HurtLocker

No Pants wrote: »

I wouldn't find being a dick that satisfying. I also find using the horn while driving to be counterproductive.

It saved my life when a dopey women decided to try run me off the road due to her lack of attention when it comes to lane discipline. Of course when the person still doesn't see what's wrong after the near incident and starts swearing at you the middle finger is most effective.

No Pants

HurtLocker wrote: »

It saved my life when a dopey women decided to try run me off the road due to her lack of attention when it comes to lane discipline. Of course when the person still doesn't see what's wrong after the near incident and starts swearing at you the middle finger is most effective.

I've had that happen to me twice recently on the M50. Overtaking at considerable pace and someone pulls out in front of me at a lesser pace. Spot, take action, a quick flash of the lights and move on. I've never had anything similar happen outside of the motorway that I can recall. I'm too highly strung to allow these things affect me.

Twas Not

No Pants wrote: »

It's rarely used as a warning, more as a way of expressing annoyance. Even when it is used as a warning, people tend to react badly. I normally just adjust my driving to take account of whatever nuisance someone has just made of themselves and leave it like that. A competent driver can generally spot upcoming dickery. If needs be, maybe three or four flashes of the lights to signal danger. Beeping the horn is just a distraction.

That's untrue. I regularly beep motorists and cyclists for dangerous road use such as veering out of lanes, bad roundabout management and being stopped inappropriately on the side of the road for no reason other than tapping an iPhone

OldMrBrennan83

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No Pants

Twas Not wrote: »

I regularly beep motorists and cyclists for dangerous road use

One swallow does not make a summer. :rolleyes:

131spanner

Now that I think of it, I very rarely beep when driving, only as a gesture to someone I know.

I don't like people who use it out of ignorance. To warn you of danger is necessary of course, but if someone blows at me because I've delayed them by all of 3 seconds I like to give a friendly flash of the lights and a thumbs up

Noccy_Mondy

I don't think I've ever, well maybe once or twice, used the horn in anger or frustration. I only use it to say hello to people I hate when people use it towards me, I've such a high tolerance towards bad drivers even though they drive me mad at times!

Rabbo

I don't think we use our horns half enough in this country, especially in rural Ireland. When someone is acting the idiot on the road or being inconsiderate, theres nothing more satisfying than giving them a beep. In small town Ireland though, people are too afraid to show their annoyance in case the person in the other car might recognise them.

Oink

Rabbo wrote: »

I don't think we use our horns half enough in this country, especially in rural Ireland. When someone is acting the idiot on the road or being inconsiderate, theres nothing more satisfying than giving them a beep. .

1. Not beeping enough:
You must be joking...

2. Nothing more satisfying than giving them a beep:
Now we're getting to the bottom of it: People using the horn for their own satisfaction (I quote) rather than in an emergency. Personally I prefer when people satisfy themselves in private if they are ever overcome by their emotions for another driver, rather than afflict that on other people.

Mycroft H

I use it as a warning device and to say hello to the neighbor.

Twas Not

Oink wrote: »

1. Not beeping enough:
You must be joking...

2. Nothing more satisfying than giving them a beep:
Now we're getting to the bottom of it: People using the horn for their own satisfaction (I quote) rather than in an emergency. Personally I prefer when people satisfy themselves in private if they are ever overcome by their emotions for another driver, rather than afflict that on other people.

It is satisfying to correct wrongdoing. How couldn't it be? So there is nothing wrong with feeling a level of satisfaction after blasting someone off the road.

I favour 2 or 3 long beeps maybe 20 or 25 seconds followed up by a series of short pippy beeps - maybe as many as 40 or 60 depending on the situation.

dr.fuzzenstein

You gotta use it right. It is there to warn others of your presence. When I was on the road every day, I sometimes did use it to warn whatever doddery old fool was driving along at 40 km/h that I was currently overtaking him, since these guys are usually not aware of their surroundings.
Other than that, people who don't look before changing lanes.
I do use it at traffic lights when the guy in front is clearly snoozing, but only a polite little bip.

As an aside, if you say "people are sooo rude, everyone's always beeping and flashing, its terrible!
You may want to re-assess your driving, methinks it is something you're doing.
And a lot of people think "I am entitled to be on the road and can drive whatever way I see fit!". All the beeping in the world won't cure them.

Oink

Twas Not wrote: »

It is satisfying to correct wrongdoing.

Thats my point. When someone doesnt see you, you beep so they dont crash into you. But if we all go out there to teach people lessons, to "correct" every idiot that crosses your path, then we'll all spend half the day sitting on the horn.

I often have strong feelings about all sorts of idiotic drivers. I might curse at them or whatever but I assume that nobody on the road gives a sh about my poor wounded feelings. Also I fail to see the link between my feelings and the horn.

Just sayin'.

Twas Not

Oink wrote: »

Thats my point. When someone doesnt see you, you beep so they dont crash into you. But if we all go out there to teach people lessons, to "correct" every idiot that crosses your path, then we'll all spend half the day sitting on the horn.

I often have strong feelings about all sorts of idiotic drivers. I might curse at them or whatever but I assume that nobody on the road gives a sh about my poor wounded feelings. Also I fail to see the link between my feelings and the horn.

Just sayin'.

Well I guess I will do as I wish not as you please then.

Rabbo

I wouldn't suggest beeping every time someone does something annoying, if that was the case I wouldn't keep my hand off the horn.

The satisfaction of it is a happy by-product of the beeping. There's no harm reminding someone that they're acting the idiot. It helps to improve standard of driving. We've all been bleeped at when we did something stupid on the road, you then naturally try to avoid being an inconvenience to other road users

RandomAccess

If someones blindly coming into your lane, brake & blast of the horn and they swerve back to their own lane!
If you don't blow they don't know.

Places not to use the horn,
Pulling up outside your mates house and your too much of a lazy ****er to get out and ring the bell.

Dartz

...I thought this was another Rx8 thread, looking at the topic.

dr.fuzzenstein

The Joy of Beep!
Now available in all good dirty bookstores.

No Pants

Twas Not wrote: »

I favour 2 or 3 long beeps maybe 20 or 25 seconds followed up by a series of short pippy beeps - maybe as many as 40 or 60 depending on the situation.

That's just dickery. You're no better than the people you're beeping.

Twas Not

No Pants wrote: »

That's just dickery. You're no better than the people you're beeping.

Not at all. How else will someone learn to drive safely and obey the rules of the road???

It's reckless NOT to beep someone off the road when they are driving poorly.

Chris_Heilong

Using the horn is not a bad thing, it alerts others you are there, lets them know the light has turned green act.

Its the Irish attitude to the horn which is the problem, many take it as an insult, like the car behind them is calling them a fúcking knob.

My wife is not from here ad many times she tells me to beep the car doing something wrong in front of us, I tell her in Ireland they might take it the wrong way.

Esel

Twas Not wrote: »

That's untrue. I regularly beep motorists and cyclists for dangerous road use such as veering out of lanes, bad roundabout management and being stopped inappropriately on the side of the road for no reason other than tapping an iPhone

Does the horn echo under your bridge?

OldMrBrennan83

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No Pants

Twas Not wrote: »

Not at all. How else will someone learn to drive safely and obey the rules of the road???

Sorry, I thought you simply beeped the horn 40 - 60 times at them. I didn't realise you actually explained the error of their ways using morse code as the medium.

Jesus.

OP clearly suffering from a case of small man syndrome. Most of the morons who blow their horn like lunatics suffer from an inferiority complex. A little power trip to make them feel like they're not irrelevant.

dr.fuzzenstein

But it goes both ways, how often have I seen people snooze through an entire green phase and no one beeped them. All because people are mortified someone might look at them.
If anything people in Ireland don't beep enough and would rather put up with sh*tty driver in front of them than give him a quick beep.
The same way they would go to a restaurant and choke down a terrible meal and say that everything was grand plus leave a tip, anything not to cause a fuss.

OldMrBrennan83

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Jesus.

There's simply no need to blow at people for 95% of the stuff. Most of the time I see people blasting the horn its for trivial nonsense. I can't remember the last time I've beeped the horn, apart from a quick "bip" to let the guy at the front of the queue know the light has changed. The only time I'd lean on it is if someone literally almost put me in the ditch doing some crazy-ass sh*t.

People do turn into assholes when they climb into their cars. There's little consideration or a relaxed attitude and it leads to endless strife and confrontations. Doubtless its the same people who get into agro on the roads time and time again.

I've traveled as a passenger with such people and its like "Jesus Christ man, would you chill the fukk out!".

RayM

My car has a very unsatisfyingly high-pitched horn. Using it aggressively isn't an option. It's a shame silly-sounding horns aren't mandatory.

Noccy_Mondy

You wouldn't sound the horn on our pajero in any situation, you'd sound too much like a ponce and embarrass yourself!!

greasepalm

be careful what you wish for

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Cedrus

I used the horn a lot more when I was on a motorbike, sometimes it was the only way to stay alive. I still use it now that I'm in a car but less so (I'm also less at risk).

A couple of times I've even been grateful for being beeped, the field of vision in a car is so limited compared to a bike it took me a while to get used to it especially on cold (condensation) mornings. I like to learn.

The road rage it induces in Ireland though, means that it's best to restrict it to when it will serve a purpose. Unfortunately, the numbskulls who need the most warning are also the most likely to misinterpret the gesture.

These are definitely not included in the Rules of the Road;

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

. I only use it to say hello to people ..............................

Mycroft H wrote: »

I use it .................. to say hello to the neighbor.

RandomAccess wrote: »

Places not to use the horn,
Pulling up outside your mates house and your too much of a lazy ****er to get out and ring the bell.

...and Taxi drivers :mad::mad::mad:

RandomAccess

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

But it goes both ways, how often have I seen people snooze through an entire green phase and no one beeped them

I remember one time my horn was broken, and I was sitting there behind a guy at a green light stranded praying for the fella behind me to blow him out of it!
When you need it you need it!

georgefalls

Every one should have one of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C2Z7f1e-7Q

djimi

No Pants wrote: »

I've had that happen to me twice recently on the M50. Overtaking at considerable pace and someone pulls out in front of me at a lesser pace. Spot, take action, a quick flash of the lights and move on. I've never had anything similar happen outside of the motorway that I can recall. I'm too highly strung to allow these things affect me.

You see, this just makes no sense to me at all. Someone is in the process of cutting you off on a motorway and instead of beeping them to notify them off your presence you flash your lights at them? What use do you think that is going to be? Your horn is there precisely for this reason; its to warn other road users of your presense, and in a situation like what you described it is to be used in an effort to prevent an incident from occuring.

There is nothing noble about being passive-aggressive on the road; if someone is about put you in danger then do everything in your power to prevent it from happening. In most cases the most effective way to do this is to put your hand on the horn. I have lost count of the number of times I saved myself from being in an incident by doing this.

No Pants

djimi wrote: »

Someone is in the process of cutting you off on a motorway and instead of beeping them to notify them off your presence you flash your lights at them? What use do you think that is going to be?

To warn them of my presence. I've used it twice; it has worked twice.

Twas Not

djimi wrote: »

You see, this just makes no sense to me at all. Someone is in the process of cutting you off on a motorway and instead of beeping them to notify them off your presence you flash your lights at them? What use do you think that is going to be? Your horn is there precisely for this reason; its to warn other road users of your presense, and in a situation like what you described it is to be used in an effort to prevent an incident from occuring.

There is nothing noble about being passive-aggressive on the road; if someone is about put you in danger then do everything in your power to prevent it from happening. In most cases the most effective way to do this is to put your hand on the horn. I have lost count of the number of times I saved myself from being in an incident by doing this.

Exactly ! The horn non user is almost as much to blame by not using all safely equipment available.

djimi

No Pants wrote: »

To warn them of my presence. I've used it twice; it has worked twice.

You think flashing someone notified them of your presense? It didnt. At best, you got lucky and they looked in their mirror at the last second and saw you. Beeping the horn gets the attention of the driver who is not looking in their mirrors, which is its very point; there is no point in using something that relies on the driver looking at your car, when its blatently obvious they werent looking to begin with.

Twas Not

djimi wrote: »

You think flashing someone notified them of your presense? It didnt. At best, you got lucky and they looked in their mirror at the last second and saw you. Beeping the horn gets the attention of the driver who is not looking in their mirrors, which is its very point; there is no point in using something that relies on the driver looking at your car, when its blatently obvious they werent looking to begin with.

I don't know why anyone is scared to use their horn. But there you go.....these people do exist !

No Pants

djimi wrote: »

You think flashing someone notified them of your presense? It didnt. At best, you got lucky and they looked in their mirror at the last second and saw you. Beeping the horn gets the attention of the driver who is not looking in their mirrors, which is its very point; there is no point in using something that relies on the driver looking at your car, when its blatently obvious they werent looking to begin with.

Okay then, so I just imagined it working. Twice. :rolleyes: