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Kids playing outside - how late is generally considered reasonable.

  • 19-07-2014 10:01am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭


    There's been a bit of an altercation on my estate between some neighbours regarding kids playing loudly on the Green and outside people's houses. I haven't been involved myself but have been hearing both sides from two different neighbours and been just going hmmm, yes, I know.

    Just wondering what time, in general, you would consider it reasonable for children to be expected to keep the noise down or be called in by parents?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭buyer95


    9 bells baby.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Does that mean 9 o clock?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    I think 9 is reasonable depending on age, and obviously time of year, when it gets dark etc.


    That being said there are some young kids here left out till 11 or so and i pity those kids as their parents dont care too much what they get up to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    I would say 9-9:30. The other night the kids on my estate were still out roaring and shouting at 10:30-11 when I was trying to get the baby to sleep. Close the windows and the house is like a furnace. They're regularly out at 8am on weekend mornings too. I think 9am/pm is reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Until it's fully dark.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    generally accepted noise curfew is 10 Pm but, depending on the age of the kids, generally most should be in by 9


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭bobrawn20


    Until the street lights turn on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    10 /10.30 or till its getting dark.
    Especially during this good weather ,Winters are bad enough so let them enjoy it while they can.

    Better outside kicking ball and getting in trouble that sitting in front of games console or TV,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Until it gets dark.

    Kids make noise when they play, annoying sometimes but it's the way of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Duff


    Until one of the lads gets pissed off and takes his ball and goes home.


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  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Until it gets dark!


    Thems the rules. There are no "times", Mother Nature sets the curfew.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    There is a particular child living next to me that I want to strangle. I don't mind the sound of children playing. The whack of a football doesnt faze me. But this one particular child shouts to her mother, and after calling her name six, seven times with no response, keeps shouting the same word over and over again, until it starts to sound like some sort of siren. Eventually the mother responds and they have a shouting conversation for a minute or two.

    Then twenty minutes later the shouting starts again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    syklops wrote: »
    There is a particular child living next to me that I want to strangle. I don't mind the sound of children playing. The whack of a football doesnt faze me. But this one particular child shouts to her mother, and after calling her name six, seven times with no response, keeps shouting the same word over and over again, until it starts to sound like some sort of siren. Eventually the mother responds and they have a shouting conversation for a minute or two.

    Then twenty minutes later the shouting starts again.

    Go out and give him a clip around the ear


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Depends what age, 15/16 should be out till there too drunk and their mates drop them on your doorstep and run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    bobrawn20 wrote: »
    Until the street lights turn on

    Thats what my Ma used to say to me. As I always lost watches and didn't have a phone.

    always used the street lights as a guide to when it's time to be home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    I think it all depends on age but I wouldn't see much wrong with them being out until half 10-11 o clock, it's the summer, I used to live for those nights. Sure it's annoying but for the vast majority of kids they will only have another month or so of it and then we will be back to normal.

    Coming out my friends house the other night there were still around 6-8 kids out playing at a little after 12 o clock, a couple of them were smallies too, about 6-7 years old. I really don't think that's appropriate not least because some of your neighbours will be in bed at that stage and the sound of them kicking a ball around the place at that hour is just rediculous, no signs of parents calling them in or anything at that stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Go out and give him a clip around the ear

    I would love to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Until the boogie man comes out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    It depends on the family set up. If they don't have to be up at a particular time in the morning there is no harm in them having a later bedtime than is normal for other kids. Though if they are old enough to play outside at night, it wouldn't be a bad idea to start encouraging them to think about other people and to try play more quietly past a certain time. But from the adults' side of things, if you live on an estate with lots of children, you need to learn to live with the sounds of children playing, even though sometimes it's at a time you find very annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    9pm. So everyone else can enjoy their homes in peace and quiet for at least an hour before going to bed themselves.

    Tell us about the altercation though OP, sounds fantastic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    We'd always stay out till it was getting dark, if we were particularly rebellious we'd retreat to the back garden and mess about in there on borrowed time with "ten more minutes" barked at us about every 20 minutes :rolleyes:

    There was the summer where we built a go-kart/pedal-bus/trailer/chair thing that towed behind a bike and me and one or two of the lads would be hammering nails until the early hours when we were about 12. And that's not even that long ago, scary how the console generation never seem to go outside other than to get pissed in a field.

    Just be glad they're not starching their eyes in front of an Xbox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    GarIT wrote: »
    Until it's fully dark.

    if its anywhere near a public road then kids shouldn't be playing at dusk let alone until its fully dark. kids actions are difficult to predict at the best of times, add in the fact that they are harder to see and its dark or getting dark and you don't have a good combination of circumstances.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    if its anywhere near a public road then kids shouldn't be playing at dusk let alone until its fully dark. kids actions are difficult to predict at the best of times, add in the fact that they are harder to see and its dark or getting dark and you don't have a good combination of circumstances.

    Get a life, kids play outside all the time. Deal with it!

    Never done me anyharm!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    I think 9 is reasonable depending on age, and obviously time of year, when it gets dark etc.


    That being said there are some young kids here left out till 11 or so and i pity those kids as their parents dont care too much what they get up to.

    Usually it's everybody in here at about 9pm. Saw one father running around in panic looking for his toddler who he left in the care of other kids,the eldest looked about 9.Of course the toddler wandered off and panic ensued,she was found safe and well but in fairness the parents never even bothered to come check on the kids for hours.

    In the Summer,I think about 9 or so is apt.As usual there's always the few who let the kids out in the morning and never bother to make sure they are ok from one end of the day to the other.At the other extreme,I have one set of parents near me who won't allow their kid the freedom of playing with others in the area,it's terrible seeing the child being brought outside for a token few minutes as if it was a chore for the parents and brought back in,meanwhile the other kids are having great fun while all he can do is look on then is brought back inside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Get a life, kids play outside all the time. Deal with it!

    Never done me anyharm!


    Incredibly childish reply all the same, weird that...


    Early to bed, early to rise,
    Makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.


    Having children out that late at night is ridiculous, get them out early in the morning instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Go out and give him a clip around the ear shoe in the hole.

    Ahhhh, old school. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Depends what age, 15/16 should be out till there too drunk and their mates drop them on your doorstep and run
    Get a life, kids play outside all the time. Deal with it!

    Never done me anyharm!

    Well that's clearly debatable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Thanks for the replies. I'm with the 9 o clock or so brigade. I think by 10 o clock loud shouty games of football and kids screaming their heads off as they play chasing is a bit inconsiderate on the neighbours or the people living around the Green.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Used to be out til 11/11:30 playing football or hanging about on the field in the estate when we were kids.The odd time we'd play tip the can or heads and vollies on the road and some curtain twitcher would call the guards,who'd eventually show up and tell us to be quiet.You could tell they didn't mean it though!

    Midnight was teenage curfew with most of the group I hung about with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    syklops wrote: »
    There is a particular child living next to me that I want to strangle. I don't mind the sound of children playing. The whack of a football doesnt faze me. But this one particular child shouts to her mother, and after calling her name six, seven times with no response, keeps shouting the same word over and over again, until it starts to sound like some sort of siren. Eventually the mother responds and they have a shouting conversation for a minute or two.

    Then twenty minutes later the shouting starts again.


    You think that's bad ? In my place there is this one kid who keeps getting up on my parked motorbike and pretending to ride it. I've been shouting at him out the window for weeks now to get off it but I always catch him back up on it within a few days, alarm on it ringing and him still sitting on it.

    Last week was the final straw when the kid made me run out of petrol on the motorway- my bike doesn't have a petrol gauge so I keep an eye on the miles to know when to fill up. The kid had turned the miles back to 000 a few days previous and I didn't cop it until I ran out of petrol on the motorway whilst on my way to a wedding.

    Luckily for me the bike has a reserve tank. It took me a good 20 minutes to get it going again as the engine was flooded for a bit. If I hadn't of got it going I was missing the wedding of a good friend over that little kid :mad:

    It's so annoying as I've no idea where the kid actually lives or who his parents are. I'd love to just catch him the next time and give him a belt across the face, he'd not go near my bike again after a red face but you can't do that these days apparently.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Incredibly childish reply all the same, weird that...


    Early to bed, early to rise,
    Makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.


    Having children out that late at night is ridiculous, get them out early in the morning instead.

    Too much traffic in the morning, safer at night when the roads are quieter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Used to be out til 11/11:30 playing football or hanging about on the field in the estate when we were kids.The odd time we'd play tip the can or heads and vollies on the road and some curtain twitcher would call the guards,who'd eventually show up and tell us to be quiet.You could tell they didn't mean it though!

    Midnight was teenage curfew with most of the group I hung about with.

    None of that sounds anyway reasonable to me, sorry. As I asked on a similar thread, where are the parents at this time? Are they not in bed after a hard day at work by this stage? Do they know or care what their kids are doing?

    Not a path I would ever allow for my children and I don't know many who would


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Too much traffic in the morning, safer at night when the roads are quieter


    And therein lies the danger -

    Parents assume the roads are quieter, drivers assume there wouldn't be any children out at that hour. At least when the road is busy children have no option but to play elsewhere, like on the green where they're supposed to play.

    That's notwithstanding the fact that they shouldn't be out that late at night and then sleeping in till the afternoon the next day.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    And therein lies the danger -

    Parents assume the roads are quieter, drivers assume there wouldn't be any children out at that hour. At least when the road is busy children have no option but to play elsewhere, like on the green where they're supposed to play.

    That's notwithstanding the fact that they shouldn't be out that late at night and then sleeping in till the afternoon the next day.

    Who said the kids be sleeping all day? Kids around my street be out playing about till 10.30/11PM and be back out by 10.30am the next morning

    I must go round and tell all their mammys, the PC brigade on the internet think its too late for their kids to be out at that time. Who are you to tell anyone what/when/how their kids shoyuld play, what time, where?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Who said the kids be sleeping all day? Kids around my street be out playing about till 10.30/11PM and be back out by 10.30am the next morning

    I must go round and tell all their mammys, the PC brigade on the internet think its too late for their kids to be out at that time. Who are you to tell anyone what/when/how their kids shoyuld play, what time, where?


    I'm not telling anyone anything. I'm giving my opinion in a discussion on an internet forum. There's no need to get so worked up about it. I'm not saying you have to do anything either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Miss.Mayhem


    I think it depends on the age. For instance I think 4 year olds should only be out until 6pm at the latest (they're still basically toddlers at that age), 9-10 year olds should only be out until 9pm at the latest and late teens should be definitely at home before 12am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Yip - when the streetlights come on we all scattered off in different directions home.

    That was all of 20-25 years ago though. Fack I'm old :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    Who said the kids be sleeping all day? Kids around my street be out playing about till 10.30/11PM and be back out by 10.30am the next morning

    I must go round and tell all their mammys, the PC brigade on the internet think its too late for their kids to be out at that time. Who are you to tell anyone what/when/how their kids shoyuld play, what time, where?

    When they are 10 feet from my doorstep screaming, stamping on flower beds and leaving their rubbish strewn around all the way from midday up to 1-2am, I think I personally have every right to be annoyed. Never outside their own homes doing the same thing funnily enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭tonyka


    ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    Until it gets dark!

    That's 11pm in mid-summer. Seems a tad late for kids.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    As long as they are not causing any trouble I reckon around 11/12.

    When I was a kid we all stayed out till around this time during the summer playing and there were no problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    Till it gets dark, and they should be as loud as they like.

    If you want peace and quiet live out the country.

    If you live in an estate you have to be willing to listen to kids playing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Unsupervised children out late at night what possibly could go wrong. I mean there would be uproar by people if one gets kidnapped. And the unsupervised part gets left to the side, poor parenting also. Most people who leave there kids out that late at night have 0 clue what their up to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    11ish without a doubt. Telling kids to come in at 9 in this weather is just being a killjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Henlars67 wrote: »
    Till it gets dark, and they should be as loud as they like.

    If you want peace and quiet live out the country.

    If you live in an estate you have to be willing to listen to kids playing

    That is a very selfish attitude. I am all for children being outside and playing but if I am getting up at five in the morning for work I certainly don't want them screaming and shouting at midnight. How about they learn a wee bit respnsability also live in the country aye OK because it is that easy to do :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    That is a very selfish attitude. I am all for children being outside and playing but if I am getting up at five in the morning for work I certainly don't want them screaming and shouting at midnight. How about they learn a wee bit respnsability also live in the country aye OK because it is that easy to do :rolleyes:

    Your forgetting the type of parent your up against. want the kid up and out early as possible and in late as possible and straight to bed.

    Not saying as a kid i did not stay out till 10:30 ish but we at least knew to keep the noise down stop will the football off the walls and the screaming. used to play hide and seek from about 9 till we went in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Unsupervised children out late at night what possibly could go wrong. I mean there would be uproar by people if one gets kidnapped. And the unsupervised part gets left to the side, poor parenting also. Most people who leave there kids out that late at night have 0 clue what their up to.
    Yeah there's such a lot of kidnappings in Ireland perhaps kid shouldn't be let out at all . At least that way they wouldn't be inconveniencing adults with the noise they create when playing.


    Me, I was always allowed out until dark as were my kids , none of us got kidnapped or into any trouble for that matter .

    That was in the good old days before we had the internet to ask strangers how we should parent our children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Yeah there's such a lot of kidnappings in Ireland perhaps kid shouldn't be let out at all . At least that way they wouldn't be inconveniencing adults with the noise they create when playing.


    Me, I was always allowed out until dark as were my kids , none of us got kidnapped or into any trouble for that matter .

    I think your missing the "IF" part. Depends on the area people are foolish to consider it automatically safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    sdeire wrote: »
    Just be glad they're not starching their eyes in front of an Xbox.
    Why would I care if they're scratching their eyes in front of an xbox?

    I do care about them making noise though. Children should be seen and not heard.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tarzana wrote: »
    That's 11pm in mid-summer. Seems a tad late for kids.

    Nah, not pitch black like, usually wouldn't be much later that 10.15 when it gets too dark.


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