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It seems Enda has taken to poking the Irish Language Community with a stick.

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  • 15-07-2014 9:35pm
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    GaelMise
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    “Lads, did ye hear the one about the Minister of the Gaeltacht who couldn’t speak Irish?” Essentially, that is what the Taoiseach is asking us while trying to keep a straight face.

    Our politicians have often shown great ingenuity in finding new ways to undermine the language while simultaneously professing their unceasing commitment to its promotion, but for sheer audacity and shamelessness Enda Kenny has now set the bar higher than anyone imagined it could go.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/treibh/they-wouldn-t-would-they-1.1867225#.U8VoY3YwsYo.email

    It seems that one major protest on the streets of Dublin this year are not enough for Enda. Needless stupidity seems to be the hallmark of this government unfortunatly.


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    kowloon
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    Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht?


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    GaelMise
    Registered Users Posts: 542 ✭✭✭GaelMise


    kowloon wrote: »
    Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht?


    No Minister of State for the Gaeltacht, who cant speak Irish.


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    c_man
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    It seems that one major protest on the streets of Dublin this year are not enough for Enda.

    Ah now. He wouldn't give in to the Garth Brooks protestors, he'll never back down to ye.


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    Mr. Incognito
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    Can he not learn?

    The biggest reason most people are turned off Irish is this elitist attitude that native irish speakers have. If you are not a native speaker there is derision where there should be two open arms for a dying language.

    I would think a minister learning the language would resonate more with the public than this martyr reaction

    Like that twit on tg4 going round to people in Dublin speaking Irish most of whom werent even Irish and then acting like they were the morons.

    Drop the condecension. We are all sick of ye.


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    GaelMise
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    c_man wrote: »
    Ah now. He wouldn't give in to the Garth Brooks protestors, he'll never back down to ye.


    There were more Irish Language protesters, and we will still be protesting long after Brooks is forgotten.


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    GaelMise
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    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    Can he not learn?

    The biggest reason most people are turned off Irish is this elitist attitude that native irish speakers have. If you are not a native speaker there is derision where there should be two open arms for a dying language.

    Like that twit on tg4 going round to people in Dublin speaking Irish most of whom werent even Irish and then acting like they were the morons.

    Drop the condecension. We are all sick of ye.


    You think it is elitist and condecending to expect the Minister with responsibility for the Gaeltacht to be able to speak Irish?
    Sure he can learn, but I doubt he will learn fast enough to be ready for his first official engagement tomorrow at 9:30.
    In one move the Department has moved from opperating through Irish to having to opperate through English.
    Its nothing short of a disgrace.


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    B0jangles
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    As gaeilge, le do thoil.


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    efb
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    Jaysus sure our dear leader can't debate- in a parliamentary democracy!


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    Roger_007
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/treibh/they-wouldn-t-would-they-1.1867225#.U8VoY3YwsYo.email

    It seems that one major protest on the streets of Dublin this year are not enough for Enda. Needless stupidity seems to be the hallmark of this government unfortunatly.

    Why are you protesting about this decision 'as bearla' ?


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    Merrion
    Registered Users Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Merrion


    He probably can't do a "pas de deux" or mix lime mortar for an 18th century stone wall neither. Let us hope he can fill out the EU grant applications paperwork for the people who can.


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    GaelMise
    Registered Users Posts: 542 ✭✭✭GaelMise


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Why are you protesting about this decision 'as bearla' ?

    That would mainly be because if I did so in Irish on this forum, I would be banned.
    Rest assured I will be protesting about it as Gaeilge outside the Dept. Of An Taoiseach tomorrow.


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    Roger_007
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    That would mainly be because if I did so in Irish on this forum, I would be banned.
    Rest assured I will be protesting about it as Gaeilge outside the Dept. Of An Taoiseach tomorrow.

    Good luck with that.:rolleyes:


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    NegativeCreep
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    That would mainly be because if I did so in Irish on this forum, I would be banned.
    Rest assured I will be protesting about it as Gaeilge outside the Dept. Of An Taoiseach tomorrow.

    There's an Irish part of After Hours up the top of the forum.


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    the_syco
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    No Minister of State for the Gaeltacht, who cant speak Irish.
    You mean like pretty much every other Minister that the Gaeltacht had? Seems there wasn't many who could actually speak Irish.

    Next you'll be saying that the minister of health looked like a health warning...

    You've more chance or a protest over GB concert not happening, tbh.


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    GaelMise
    Registered Users Posts: 542 ✭✭✭GaelMise


    the_syco wrote: »
    You mean like pretty much every other Minister that the Gaeltacht had? Seems there wasn't many who could actually speak Irish.

    Actually this is the first time that neither Senior or Junior Minister could speak Irish.


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    Rabbo
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    That would mainly be because if I did so in Irish on this forum, I would be banned.
    Rest assured I will be protesting about it as Gaeilge outside the Dept. Of An Taoiseach tomorrow.

    This thread might be of interest to you:
    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056411706/


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    mickydoomsux
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    Do we also have a Minister for Chocolate Teapots?


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    Karl Stein
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    Goodness me that's rather thick.


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    shruikan2553
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    Thats a bit odd. It is also odd that irish speakers were protesting before this supposedly, about what I have no idea.


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    Donkey Oaty
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    It might seem like sentimental nostalgia, and there will be people who will say "the world has moved on, and we need to move with it", but I often think that if we were brave enough, and determined to put our minds to it, we could recreate the times of a few hundred years ago when speaking Irish was illegal.


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    RayM
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    If Enda really wanted to poke the gaeilgeoirí with a stick, he would have appointed Damien English as Minister for the Gaeltacht. :)


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    _Kaiser_
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    Of all the issues I have with Enda and his government (and there are many!), this is hardly one of them.

    But to keep the Irish lobby happy, it seems the new Minister will be getting a refresher course

    "Problem" solved!


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    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Same way that Sean Sherlock isn't fluent in research and innovation?


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    The track record of Ministers for Finance obviously not having a great grasp on things that we've had recently is grand I guess.

    Change the record OP, there's a big difference between people deliberately provoking the Irish speaking community and nobody giving a shít.


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    GaelMise
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    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    Same way that Sean Sherlock isn't fluent in research and innovation?

    To be fair there is probably an argument to be made that Sean Sherlock's mere presence is as damaging to the work of that Dept as is the case with a non-Irish speaking Minister for the Gaeltacht, but this case is particularly blatent.


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    mickydoomsux
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    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    Of all the issues I have with Enda and his government (and there are many!), this is hardly one of them.

    But to keep the Irish lobby happy, it seems the new Minister will be getting a refresher course

    "Problem" solved!

    Send him on an 8-track player repair course next.

    Or teach him how to fix tube TVs.


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    wexie
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    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Send him on an 8-track player repair course next.

    Or teach him how to fix tube TVs.

    actually, those are probably skills that could earn someone a decent living.....


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    Awkward Badger
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    No Minister of State for the Gaeltacht, who cant speak Irish.

    He's the Minister of State at the Department of Arts, Heritage and Gaeltacht Affairs. There's more to the job than speaking fcuking Irish.


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    GaelMise
    Registered Users Posts: 542 ✭✭✭GaelMise


    Awkward Badger wrote: »
    He's the Minister of State at the Department of Arts, Heritage and Gaeltacht Affairs. There's more to the job than speaking fcuking Irish.

    His specific brief in that department is the Gaeltacht. So one of the main fcuking requirements of the fcuking job is speaking fcuking Irish.


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    Awkward Badger
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    GaelMise wrote: »
    His specific brief in that department is the Gaeltacht. So one of the main fcuking requirements of the fcuking job is speaking fcuking Irish.

    As others have fcuking said and has been fcuking reported he's going to fcuking take a fcuking refresher course to fcuking learn the fcuking language to be able to fcuking use it when needed to do his fcuking job. And as I fcuking said there's more to the fcuking job than speaking fcuking Irish.


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