Four day week.

Grayson

Doctors seem to think we need think we need it.
In Utah of all places, a republican governor decided that all state employees should work 4 days at 10 hours per day. The state makes savings because it's only active four days a week and all the staff get an extra day off.

I'm actually working a 4 day week at the moment. I was working 5 x 8 but I negotiated a change to to 4 x 10. I arrive an hour earlier than everyone and leave an hour later. I can actually attend a fulltime postgrad and work fulltime because of it. I'm dreading going back to 5 days a week after the summer.

So, would you be up for it? I'd be favour of our government shutting down some departments for an extra day.

Iwasfrozen

Grayson wrote: »

Doctors seem to think we need think we need it.
In Utah of all places, a republican governor decided that all state employees should work 4 days at 10 hours per day. The state makes savings because it's only active four days a week and all the staff get an extra day off.

I'm actually working a 4 day week at the moment. I was working 5 x 8 but I negotiated a change to to 4 x 10. I arrive an hour earlier than everyone and leave an hour later. I can actually attend a fulltime postgrad and work fulltime because of it. I'm dreading going back to 5 days a week after the summer.

So, would you be up for it? I'd be favour of our government shutting down some departments for an extra day.

Nope. If anything we should be working six day weeks to help rebuild our economy. Besides, I don't fancy a 20% pay cut.

Lucifer MorningStar

Grayson wrote: »

Doctors seem to think we need think we need it.
In Utah of all places, a republican governor decided that all state employees should work 4 days at 10 hours per day. The state makes savings because it's only active four days a week and all the staff get an extra day off.

I'm actually working a 4 day week at the moment. I was working 5 x 8 but I negotiated a change to to 4 x 10. I arrive an hour earlier than everyone and leave an hour later. I can actually attend a fulltime postgrad and work fulltime because of it. I'm dreading going back to 5 days a week after the summer.

So, would you be up for it? I'd be favour of our government shutting down some departments for an extra day.

Well, I certainly wouldn't be against it

on_my_oe

I did a four day week years ago, and loved it. To be be fair I usually work 8.30am to 6 or 6.30 now, so the powers that be would lose out on my 'free' overtime, but I would definitely consider a four day week job if I could find one

Grayson

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Nope. If anything we should be working six day weeks to help rebuild our economy. Besides, I don't fancy a 20% pay cut.

the Utah example is 4 x ten hour days rather than 8 x five hour days so the pay would be the same. That's what i work right now. It's 7am -5:30pm and I have three days a week off.

If i could afford a 20% pay cut I'd prefer to do 4 x 8, but I can't afford it.

Rabbo

Grayson wrote: »

the Utah example is 4 x ten hour days rather than 8 x five hour days so the pay would be the same. That's what i work right now. It's 7am -5:30pm and I have three days a week off.

If i could afford a 20% pay cut I'd prefer to do 4 x 8, but I can't afford it.

8 x five hour days per week would be a bitch

Grayson

Rabbo wrote: »

8 x five hour days per week would be a bitch

I'm on my first cup of coffee

Tail Docker

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Nope. If anything we should be working six day weeks to help rebuild our economy. Besides, I don't fancy a 20% pay cut.

Knock yourself out. If you need any help, I'm good to go on Tuesdays, Weds, thurs and Fri.


Also, 4*10 as opposed to 5*8 does not equate to a pay cut, but I'm guessing you'll be too busy "rebuilding" to care.

smurfjed

I worked a total of 4 days last month for a full salary..... I would recommend it to everyone

Turtyturd

Would love to do it. Woman in the office does it and it seems great, although she tried to go on a three day week but the department were having none of it.

MJ23

When I saw the title first, I thought it said "Four Day ****"

Turtyturd

MJ23 wrote: »

When I saw the title first, I thought it said "Four Day ****"

Less **** and you probably would have read it properly.

dodderangler

I work six days a week just to keep up with rent, bills and food for 3 of us in the house. 4 days a week would leave me and my family homeless and hungry so no thanks. I'm fine with one day off a week

A Greedy Algorithm

Sounds like a great idea, i would love it.

Iwasfrozen

Grayson wrote: »

the Utah example is 4 x ten hour days rather than 8 x five hour days so the pay would be the same. That's what i work right now. It's 7am -5:30pm and I have three days a week off.

If i could afford a 20% pay cut I'd prefer to do 4 x 8, but I can't afford it.

Yeah I understand what you mean. Anyway no I wouldn't like it. I prefer to spread my hours out over the week.

Tail Docker wrote: »

Knock yourself out. If you need any help, I'm good to go on Tuesdays, Weds, thurs and Fri.

So you're only working a three day week? :rolleyes:

shruikan2553

People are missing the point. You still work the same hours total so wages are the same. Instead you take 1 day, split the number of hours by 4 and put them on the other 4 days you work.

I would be all for it. I would even take a paycut to just work 30-32 hours.

DEFTLEFTHAND

6 days a week for all civil servants to increase productivity, 8 to 8 weekdays and 9-6 on Saturday.

gctest50

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Grayson wrote: »

Doctors seem to think we need think we need it.
In Utah of all places, a republican governor decided that all state employees should work 4 days at 10 hours per day. The state makes savings because it's only active four days a week and all the staff get an extra day off.

I'm actually working a 4 day week at the moment. I was working 5 x 8 but I negotiated a change to to 4 x 10. I arrive an hour earlier than everyone and leave an hour later. I can actually attend a fulltime postgrad and work fulltime because of it. I'm dreading going back to 5 days a week after the summer.

So, would you be up for it? I'd be favour of our government shutting down some departments for an extra day.

Nope. If anything we should be working six day weeks to help rebuild our economy. Besides, I don't fancy a 20% pay cut.

At least making some attempt at reading something before jumping in with daft ideas would help a bit more - if you carry on in real life like that post its no wonder its fcked

4 x 10 = 40

5 x 8 = 40

Iwasfrozen

gctest50 wrote: »

At least making some attempt at reading something before jumping in with daft ideas would help a bit more - if you carry on in real life like that post its no wonder its fcked

4 x 10 = 40

5 x 8 = 40

Read my second post in this thread.

gctest50

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Read my second post in this thread.

i quoted your post ????????

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Besides, I don't fancy a 20% pay cut.

This poster explained it :

shruikan2553 wrote: »

People are missing the point. You still work the same hours total so wages are the same. Instead you take 1 day, split the number of hours by 4 and put them on the other 4 days you work.
.....

catallus

The elites would never risk giving their slaves such a taste of freedom.

gctest50

catallus wrote: »

The elites would never risk giving their slaves such a taste of freedom.

We might get time to think n stuff

RayM

I've done a four-day-week before. It was eleven hours per day, Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. It was nice having two days off during the week, but I never liked working Saturdays, and I absolutely hated never having two days off in succession.

pragmatic1

Some of the employees where I work now do this. I'd love to have the opportunity to work a four day week. Any day off work is a good day.

Wompa1

Wouldn't make much of a difference to me. I work a lot of overtime, including weekends so it would just be another day that I work and don't get paid extra for..

Iwasfrozen

gctest50 wrote: »

i quoted your post ????????




This poster explained it :

Yes. The other poster explained it so there was no need for you to explain it a second time... Get me now?

gctest50

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Yes. The other poster explained it so there was no need for you to explain it a second time... Get me now?

I don't understand your post really

- the original post is nice and clear, relavent bit :

Grayson wrote: »

......... republican governor decided that all state employees should work 4 days at 10 hours per day. .........

4 x 10 = 40

then you posted

Originally Posted by Iwasfrozen
Besides, I don't fancy a 20% pay cut.

It seems odd you couldn't read the original post - maybe a bug in the forum software ??

really odd

Birneybau

dodderangler wrote: »

I work six days a week just to keep up with rent, bills and food for 3 of us in the house. 4 days a week would leave me and my family homeless and hungry so no thanks. I'm fine with one day off a week

Eh, it's the same amount of hours, over 4 days instead of 5...

The_B_Man

I've also seen a 9 day fortnight where you work an extra hour over the course of 2 weeks and then u get every second Friday off.

hatrickpatrick

My college at the moment is a four day week to accommodate a different course which takes over the building on Fridays. I'd absolutely do four ridiculously long days if it means that extra day off, sure. Think if I was working full time I'd prefer Mondays off to Fridays though

kelledy

I work a 3 day week 3x12.5 hour shifts ..... Ahhhhh yes :pac:

TheBegotten

I think a ten hour day would be disastrous for efficiency. Think about it: Friday evening, 1500 hours, facing into the weekend, on your third cup of coffee, working all week and those last two hours are spent doing nothing or just doing busywork to kill the time between you and those glorious two days of freedom...now imagine the same scenario, only you've got another 4 hours to work, and there's three days left. As well as that, by the time you've reached in the seventh hour in any shift you're already starting to get tired. Imagine if you had to go for another three after that?

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Doctors seem to think we need think we need it.
In Utah of all places, a republican governor decided that all state employees should work 4 days at 10 hours per day. The state makes savings because it's only active four days a week and all the staff get an extra day off.

I'm actually working a 4 day week at the moment. I was working 5 x 8 but I negotiated a change to to 4 x 10. I arrive an hour earlier than everyone and leave an hour later. I can actually attend a fulltime postgrad and work fulltime because of it. I'm dreading going back to 5 days a week after the summer.

So, would you be up for it? I'd be favour of our government shutting down some departments for an extra day.

Nope. If anything we should be working six day weeks to help rebuild our economy. Besides, I don't fancy a 20% pay cut.
At least making some attempt at reading something before jumping in with daft ideas would help a bit more - if you carry on in real life like that post its no wonder its fcked

4 x 10 = 40

5 x 8 = 40



Ive checked on my calculator, Correct.

PizzamanIRL

2 x 20 is also 40. I'm a genius.

The Diabolical Monocle

Why isn't 30 hours enough per week at this stage.

can 30 hours not provide what society actually needs.

worst case scenario you can't get random tat and sht from argos.

40 hours was the standard for society to function in our parents day.

how much has technology advanced since.

Joe Doe

smurfjed wrote: »

I worked a total of 4 days last month for a full salary..... I would recommend it to everyone

I'm reading and hoping to apply 'The 4 hr Work Week' (book/audio: Tim Ferris) in the longer-term.

Say what you like about the French (their English isn't that good), but think they have a liberating legal limit of 35hrs per week!

The UK averages 37.5hrs. And yet the french GDP is currently larger, viva la France! Live is for living.

Ireland averages closer to a 40hrs++ average, boo.

Some forward thinking tech firms actually push for the 4 days with Friday for self-directed study (handy for break throughs in nano-genetic modding, yer olde quantum multiverse dibble dabble, and emmergingwebcloudtech yayada).

shruikan2553

It is annoying that there isnt much of a choice when it comes to the hours you work. Jobs outside of the likes of retail or waiters tend to be a 39 hour week. Sure you would get paid less working 30 hours a week but it would allow people to focus more on life outside of work if they wished.

Joe Doe

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Sure you would get paid less working 30 hours a week but...

Technically you would get paid more (on a p/hr basis) when you factor in tax, deductions and tax credits.

That extra day could even be deployed for home renovations, diy, exercise, or fixing the car which would be a net & indirect monetary gain, so yes indeed a win win.

Iwasfrozen

gctest50 wrote: »

I don't understand your post really

- the original post is nice and clear, relavent bit :

It seems odd you couldn't read the original post - maybe a bug in the forum software ??

really odd

You're an odd person. Someone had pointed out something I missed in my first post that's why I told you to look at my second post when you simply said the same thing again in a less amiable manner. Do you understand now?

Iwasfrozen

Joe Doe wrote: »

Technically you would get paid more (on a p/hr basis) when you factor in tax, deductions and tax credits.

You still get paid less.

That extra day could even be deployed for home renovations, diy, exercise, or fixing the car which would be a net & indirect monetary gain, so yes indeed a win win.

If I was an employer and someone asked for a four day week so they could catch up on their personal life, unless they were absolutely critical to the business, they would be out the door so fast their feet wouldn't touch the ground.

So many people in this country are frankly bloody lazy. To the point were working more than 40 hours a week over 5 days is total nightmare for them. These people have a terrible attitude problem towards work. Not necessarily pointed at you John Doe.

Degag

dodderangler wrote: »

I work six days a week just to keep up with rent, bills and food for 3 of us in the house. 4 days a week would leave me and my family homeless and hungry so no thanks. I'm fine with one day off a week

I'm not quite sure you get this thread...

shruikan2553

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

You still get paid less.


If I was an employer and someone asked for a four day week so they could catch up on their personal life, unless they were absolutely critical, they would be out the door so fast their feet wouldn't touch the ground.

So many people in this country are frankly bloody lazy. To the point were working more than 40 hours a week over 5 days is total nightmare for them. These people have a terrible attitude problem towards work. Not necessarily pointed at you John Doe.

But this is the problem, why take someone for 30 hours if you can get someone for 40+. Its the american attitude of work and the company come first, even if they see you as easily replaceable and any longing of doing something for yourself is lazy.

Iwasfrozen

shruikan2553 wrote: »

But this is the problem, why take someone for 30 hours if you can get someone for 40+. Its the american attitude of work and the company come first, even if they see you as easily replaceable and any longing of doing something for yourself is lazy.

That's exactly the sort of attitude I'd look for. Why take on people who's priorities aren't in the right place?

Tar.Aldarion

10x4 might sound good in theory but concentration would wane and we'd get less done. 4 day weeks would be so nice though.

gctest50

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

You're an odd person. Someone had pointed out something I missed in my first post that's why I told you to look at my second post when you simply said the same thing again in a less amiable manner. Do you understand now?

how could you miss it ?

i'm genuinely concerned like - you could get so screwed over in the future in real life by not having a good look at something

its not just a one word thing - it should be the first thing you'd ask in such a situation - this is really important for yourself if you go working in the future

when i saw the first post i thought almost immediately

- "do tehy mean drop a day completly and loose the hours or drop a day and work extra hours"

(i've been there n done both)

instead of just rushing to make the second post

shruikan2553

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

That's exactly the sort of attitude I'd look for. Why take on people who's priorities aren't in the right place?

Where is the right place?
Why would someone make a company their priority in life? Must have quite empty lives to manage that.

gctest50

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

10x4 might sound good in theory but concentration would wane and we'd get less done. 4 day weeks would be so nice though.

Maybe if ya did 4 x 10 for the months of say

June ( warm days - hopefully )

August ( back to school stuff for parents , last of warm days )

Iwasfrozen

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Where is the right place?
Why would someone make a company their priority in life? Must have quite empty lives to manage that.

To make themselves indispensable and climb the ladder.

If another person just wants to be a grunt to clock in and out five days a week for eight hours a day then that's all they'll ever be.

Assuming they keep their job at all because who doesn't work overtime these days?

shruikan2553

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

To make themselves indispensable and climb the ladder.

If another person just wants to be a grunt to clock in and out five days a week for eight hours a day then that's all they'll ever be.

Assuming they keep their job at all because who doesn't work overtime these days?

You can only work extra hours for free or you'll never get anywhere at best if ou even keep the job.

I prefer the being good at your job method and not needing extra time to get stuff done. I recommend hiring some people better for the job or better management if people are having to do overtime often.

Iwasfrozen

shruikan2553 wrote: »

You can only work extra hours for free or you'll never get anywhere at best if ou even keep the job.

I prefer the being good at your job method and not needing extra time to get stuff done. I recommend hiring some people better for the job or better management if people are having to do overtime often.

Every (or near enough) entry level job requires you work extra hours. Few complain in my experience because the kind of person who works in these jobs has a good attitude. They put their work first because they want to make something of themselves.

shruikan2553

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Every (or near enough) entry level job requires you work extra hours. Few complain in my experience because the kind of person who works in these jobs has a good attitude. They put their work first because they want to make something of themselves.

I guess I'm lucky my boss respects my personal life then. Probably depends on the area too. In mine even graduates are in demand so companies have to try and make themselves look attractive to work in.