Sir Tony O'Reilly - How the mighty have fallen!

Judgement Day

Noticeable in today's news reporting of Tony O'Reilly's financial woes that he has already been stripped of his title (by the media). Wouldn't have happened back in the day when he owned a sizeable chunk of it. Once the darling of the Irish business and social scene the bold Sir Anthony Joseph Francis O'Reilly is finally on queer street. It's hard to feel much sympathy for the man given the devastation that his shenanigans have caused to the many thousands of workers who lost their jobs down the years The UK pottery industry (Royal Doulton amongst others), Waterford Glass and more bore the brunt of his mismanagement -and don't be fooled by all the old bull about how he and his family kept Waterford Wedgwood going. What about the rest of us ordinary shareholders. :mad:

Anyway, goodbye Tony and good riddance - I doubt that he'll go hungry.

Donkey Oaty

Judgement Day wrote: »

I doubt that he'll go hungry.

http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=267325161

Buzz Killington the third

Smell of begrudgery in here...

Mr.Micro

Judgement Day wrote: »

Noticeable in today's news reporting of Tony O'Reilly's financial woes that he has already been stripped of his title (by the media). Wouldn't have happened back in the day when he owned a sizeable chunk of it. Once the darling of the Irish business and social scene the bold Sir Anthony Joseph Francis O'Reilly is finally on queer street. It's hard to feel much sympathy for the man given the devastation that his shenanigans have caused to the many thousands of workers who lost their jobs down the years The UK pottery industry (Royal Doulton amongst others), Waterford Glass and more bore the brunt of his mismanagement -and don't be fooled by all the old bull about how he and his family kept Waterford Wedgwood going. What about the rest of us ordinary shareholders. :mad:

Anyway, goodbye Tony and good riddance - I doubt that he'll go hungry.

The guy on Rte news reporting at lunchtime was clearly in awe of O'Reilly. He was almost gushing in his report. He was making him sound saintly and all his efforts to save Waterford crystal etc. pure greed got him. There is no fear of him, I am sure there is plenty salted away..

Judgement Day

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

Smell of begrudgery in here...

Hostility more than begrudgery.

Dyr

Denis next, god willing.

Buzz Killington the third

Bambi wrote: »

Denis next, god willing.

Yea, sure it's going to be great when we get taxed again and again as the top brass fall and leave massive debt :rolleyes:

ChicagoJoe

Unionism has lost a great friend The irony of it as Sinn Fein are clearly on the ascendency while Sir Anto's empire is falling apart, they are in no doubt having a roaring laugh at Anto's demise.

Arthur Beesley

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

Smell of begrudgery in here...

Thought it was a smell of Benji.

Wichita Lineman

I wonder has anyone checked lodgements in his wifes account(s) lately. Just saying

Nodin

Andy Dunne11 wrote: »

I wonder has anyone checked lodgements in his wifes account(s) lately. Just saying

He's resident in some tax haven these days, afaik.

Tombo2001

Always came across as a decent guy to me, would take no pleasure in seeing him run into financial difficulty.

Valetta

Judgement Day wrote: »

It's hard to feel much sympathy for the man given the devastation that his shenanigans have caused to the many thousands of workers who lost their jobs down the years

Where did the jobs come from in the first place?

Tombo2001

Judgement Day wrote: »

Noticeable in today's news reporting of Tony O'Reilly's financial woes that he has already been stripped of his title (by the media). Wouldn't have happened back in the day when he owned a sizeable chunk of it. Once the darling of the Irish business and social scene the bold Sir Anthony Joseph Francis O'Reilly is finally on queer street. It's hard to feel much sympathy for the man given the devastation that his shenanigans have caused to the many thousands of workers who lost their jobs down the years The UK pottery industry (Royal Doulton amongst others), Waterford Glass and more bore the brunt of his mismanagement -and don't be fooled by all the old bull about how he and his family kept Waterford Wedgwood going. What about the rest of us ordinary shareholders. :mad:

Anyway, goodbye Tony and good riddance - I doubt that he'll go hungry.

Have to laugh at this.

People stopped buying Wedgwood because it went out of fashion, and because a weak dollar made it expensive. Same with Waterford Glass.

You made the same bad investment that he did.

mickydoomsux

Valetta wrote: »

Where did the jobs come from in the first place?

The Magical Job Tree that grows beside the Magical Money Tree.

seamus

Titles are not recognised in Ireland, so it's technically correct for the Irish media to omit them when referring to someone.

Kermit.de.frog

I love the smell of begrudgery in the morning. (well, afternoon..)

Nodin

seamus wrote: »

Titles are not recognised in Ireland, so it's technically correct for the Irish media to omit them when referring to someone.

I seem to remember him asking journalists to refer to him as "Sir Anthony" on some occasion.

Tombo2001 wrote:

Always came across as a decent guy to me, would take no pleasure in seeing him run into financial difficulty. .

It's a matter of concern that he wasn't investigated by a tribunal.
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/mar2012/ahern_burke_oreilly_dossier_19982011.pdf

Tombo2001

Nodin wrote: »

I seem to remember him asking journalists to refer to him as "Sir Anthony" on some occasion.


It's a matter of concern that he wasn't investigated by a tribunal.
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/mar2012/ahern_burke_oreilly_dossier_19982011.pdf

I quote from the article that you yourself just posted:

"I am not suggesting that there was anything improper

in anything Tony O'Reilly did or arranged to have done

on his behalf."


Which is the direct opposite of what you said; saying that he should have been the subject of a tribunal suggests that he did something wrong.

Nodin

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I quote from the article that you yourself just posted:

"I am not suggesting that there was anything improper

in anything Tony O'Reilly did or arranged to have done

on his behalf."

No, he just gave money to Ray Burke, in the form of a 30,000 cheque, which is obviously totally above board and don't sue me please an honest transaction.

I think one of the other articles show his use of the indo etc to further his agenda.

Nodin

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Which is the direct opposite of what you said; saying that he should have been the subject of a tribunal suggests that he did something wrong.

Well, others made what they said were totally above board payments and they ended up in front of a tribunal, didn't they. And funny enough, it turned out they weren't as above board was claimed at the outset. Not that that could happen to a character like Tony o'Reilly. God no.

Mr.Micro

seamus wrote: »

Titles are not recognised in Ireland, so it's technically correct for the Irish media to omit them when referring to someone.

Mister is good enough. I would be happy for people to call me mister.:D

Sunnyisland

seamus wrote: »

Titles are not recognised in Ireland, so it's technically correct for the Irish media to omit them when referring to someone.

Correct but when he was head of Independent media, he was Sir Anthony everything in that group of newspapers,it was cringeworthy .

stevedublin

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Mister is good enough. I would be happy for people to call me mister.:D

okay, Micro!

ChicagoJoe

realies wrote: »

Correct but when he was head of Independent media, he was Sir Anthony everything in that group of newspapers,it was cringeworthy .

Before getting the sir title, he liked to be referred to as " Dr AJF O'Reilly " because of a doctorate from the Bradford University in agricultural marketing. Very important man, easy ego to hurt

Karl Stein

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I love the smell of begrudgery in the morning. (well, afternoon..)

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

Smell of begrudgery in here...

Lads how do you begrudge someone of massive debts?

How does that work exactly?

satguy

I never liked the guy,, but he was not as bad as some others I could mention, like the one guy the got a mobile licence for a few bob and then sold it for 300 million, and paid his tax in Portugal.

Buzz Killington the third

Karl Stein wrote: »

Lads how do you begrudge someone of massive debts?

How does that work exactly?

"goodbye Tony and good riddance"

Classic begrudgery right there because he had money in the first place.

Karl Stein

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

Classic begrudgery right there because he had money in the first place.

Begrudgery? No.

Epicaricacy, Schadenfreude or poetic justice? Perhaps.

Reformed Character

Andy Dunne11 wrote: »

I wonder has anyone checked lodgements in his wifes account(s) lately. Just saying

His wife is a Billionaire in her own right, and was so before she married him.

donegal__road

there are no shops in the graveyard..

yet many people will spend their short lives ruthlessly accumulating money, in the hope that they can 'do a little living' before they die.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/661a224e9b26e78dfbfd4cecb47b2827/tumblr_mucmxjFJoo1rci0cgo1_400.jpg

kuntboy

He's quite well read actually , he wrote a really good article on Napoleon a few years ago.

meathstevie

Valetta wrote: »

Where did the jobs come from in the first place?

Definitely not from O'Reilly's entrepreneurship but from one Mr J Wedgewood, William Martin Murphy, the Irish state....etc etc. Just about everything he touched turned to pure ****e.

IrishHomer

A pal of mine went out with his daughter, she ended up marrying a butcher

Kermit.de.frog

Wasn't he resposible for the Kerrygold brand?

Also Ryanair of course.

Two of our biggest companies and brands employing 1,000's of people.

He deserved his wealth in my opinion.

Donkey Oaty

kuntboy wrote: »

He's quite well read actually , he wrote a really good article on Napoleon a few years ago.

It's here, for anyone interested.

sabat

Not a fan of him personally but unlike most of Ireland's other rich people he brought far more money into the country than he took out.

Donkey Oaty

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Wasn't he resposible for the Kerrygold brand?

Also Ryanair of course.

Two of our biggest companies and brands employing 1,000's of people.

He deserved his wealth in my opinion.

Kerrygold, yes - but responsible for Ryanair? Are you confusing him with Tony Ryan?

RoiSoleil

I have a feeling he'll be just fine.

Nodin

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Wasn't he resposible for the Kerrygold brand?

Also Ryanair of course.

Two of our biggest companies and brands employing 1,000's of people.

He deserved his wealth in my opinion.

...and now it seems he deserved to lose it.

Nodin

RoiSoleil wrote: »

I have a feeling he'll be just fine.

Hes not going to be by an ATM with a mcdonalds cup anytime soon.

Muise...

Karl Stein wrote: »

Begrudgery? No.

Epicaricacy, Schadenfreude or poetic justice? Perhaps.

Epicaricacy

What an elegantly savage word. You're brilliant!

Donkey Oaty

Nodin wrote: »

Hes not going to be by an ATM with a mcdonalds cup anytime soon.

He'd be more of a Burger King man.

Judgement Day

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

He'd be more of a Burger King man.

Where do you get them from - you're wasted here, you need to be on "Mastermind" or some such - bet every pub quiz team wants you.

Nodin

donegal__road wrote: »

there are no shops in the graveyard..

yet many people will spend their short lives ruthlessly accumulating money, in the hope that they can 'do a little living' before they die.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/661a224e9b26e78dfbfd4cecb47b2827/tumblr_mucmxjFJoo1rci0cgo1_400.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pToA9yWlJ-Y

2012paddy2012

Andy Dunne11 wrote: »

I wonder has anyone checked lodgements in his wifes account(s) lately. Just saying

Has more money than ever be sure/ just a different name on ATM card

Kermit.de.frog

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Kerrygold, yes - but responsible for Ryanair? Are you confusing him with Tony Ryan?

Sorry my mistake.

Principle the same though. He was a wealth creator.

I think with some people just hate those who have more than they do.

Nodin

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Sorry my mistake.

Principle the same though. He was a wealth creator.

I think with some people just hate those who have more than they do.

Wow, he created "wealth". Then he used it to further his own agenda. Then he fell flat on his face.

Success - Hubris - Downfall. Nothing new there.

Karl Stein

Muise... wrote: »

Epicaricacy

What an elegantly savage word. You're brilliant!

It's epic!

Muise...

Karl Stein wrote: »

It's epic!

picaresque, almost.

Fox_In_Socks

Muise... wrote: »

picaresque, almost.

T'is dat