Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

Washington Irving

bitemeluis wrote: »

How many champions league games is he out for?

Three.

bitemeluis

Thats not so bad - theres usually a rubbish team in each group - win that and a draw in at least one of the other two - sorted

Agent Coulson

bitemeluis wrote: »

Thats not so bad - theres usually a rubbish team in each group - win that and a draw in at least one of the other two - sorted

That could be us this season with our ranking

whatawaster

T-K-O wrote: »

He has already done something mental, *3.

Ideal scenario for me, he stays for another season on his best behaviour & form working towards a move next summer.

Past experience (significant bans in each of the last 4 seasons) suggest he will repeat offend.

I think there are some heads in sand with regards to the Suarez situation.

He stays - we get 75% of a season out of him, max. Best case scenario he keeps his cool, scores lots of goals to get us into the CL and he probably moves on next summer for more money than we'd get now.
Worst case scenario - he gets another ban (a longer one), wants to leave next summer anyway and his value has depreciated further.

I think we are looking at one more season max from Suarez, I really believe that. If he stays, he is going to want to leave next year.

If, and it's a big if, we could get a replacement as good as Sanchez, then it's good business in my book.

Sanchez is no Suarez (but he is two years younger and might have the potential to be in Suarez's class). But Sanchez for a full season next year might be preferable to Suarez for 3/4 of it. Throw in a significant sum of money on top of that and it becomes more tempting.

Riesen_Meal

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/386434/Barcelona-agree-deal-with-Liverpool-star-Luis-Suarez

Paper talk coming up in my FB feed...

Washington Irving

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well, we've been here before. Owen left? We got Torres. Torres left? We got Luis. Luis leaves...?

We were three years replacing Owen, with a few duds in between.

whatawaster

Fieldog wrote: »

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/386434/Barcelona-agree-deal-with-Liverpool-star-Luis-Suarez

Paper talk coming up in my FB feed...

INEVITABLE

NEGOTIATING

AGREED

Riesen_Meal

whatawaster wrote: »

INEVITABLE

NEGOTIATING

AGREED

Typical United fans liking it in my feed...

BMJD

whatawaster wrote: »

INEVITABLE

NEGOTIATING

AGREED

the capitals are frightening here, must be more true

bitemeluis

Fieldog wrote: »

Typical United fans liking it in my feed...

All this Suarez stuff is a godsend for Rooney - we've already forgotten how crap he was at the world cup

T-K-O

whatawaster wrote: »

Past experience (significant bans in each of the last 4 seasons) suggest he will repeat offend.

I think there are some heads in sand with regards to the Suarez situation.

He stays - we get 75% of a season out of him, max. Best case scenario he keeps his cool, scores lots of goals to get us into the CL and he probably moves on next summer for more money than we'd get now.
Worst case scenario - he gets another ban (a longer one), wants to leave next summer anyway and his value has depreciated further.

I think we are looking at one more season max from Suarez, I really believe that. If he stays, he is going to want to leave next year.

If, and it's a big if, we could get a replacement as good as Sanchez, then it's good business in my book.

Sanchez is no Suarez (but he is two years younger and might have the potential to be in Suarez's class). But Sanchez for a full season next year might be preferable to Suarez for 3/4 of it. Throw in a significant sum of money on top of that and it becomes more tempting.

That's what I'm saying.

If Barca / Real are dragging their heels,hang up the phone.

IF we can get Sanchez & 50 million, I would be happy enough with that. However, not getting to see LFC & Suarez in the CL will be disappointing.

bitemeluis

bitemeluis wrote: »

All this Suarez stuff is a godsend for Rooney - we've already forgotten how crap he was at the world cup

Godsend for England in general.

Hodgson escaping with his job.

rob316

Anyone else see the made up story today about United wanting kuyt? Best bs story of the summer

Utopia Parkway

Would be a big mistake to sell Suarez. Might be a nutter but you just cant replace a world class talent like that even if we buy in some very good players with the money. Find it hard to believe we will be as good next season without him. Nightmare scenario Barca sell Sanchez to Arsenal or Man U to fund a Suarez bid. Liverpool should be adamant that no Suarez deal happens unless Sanchez is included.

Granted the player has to agree as well. Which might be the sticking point.

Calvin

I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with

T-K-O

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Would be a big mistake to sell Suarez. Might be a nutter but you just cant replace a world class talent like that even if we buy in some very good players with the money. Find it hard to believe we will be as good next season without him. Nightmare scenario Barca sell Sanchez to Arsenal or Man U to fund a Suarez bid. Liverpool should be adamant that no Suarez deal happens unless Sanchez is included.

Granted the player has to agree as well. Which might be the sticking point.

Fixed

simongurnick

Calvin Leong wrote: »

I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with

Agreed. For me, what I love about Suarez, even more than the fact that he simple makes the team better, is the sheer joy of watching this lad play football.

Kolido

Calvin Leong wrote: »

I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with

Torres wasn't far away before he moved to Chelsea, in terms of number of goals score at least plus he had less suspensions.

kingshankly

Calvin Leong wrote: »

I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with

I felt the same when rush left for juventus mind you I was only 10/11

gimli2112

Fowler, when he left a piece of me died.
Carried us as a teenager.
That game against Arsenal when he got three in five minutes, jebus wept.

Vicxas

Would hate to see Suarez go but we need a guy who can actually do preseason with us :P

I'm hoping Sturridge and Lambert can fill the void until then.

Agent Coulson

Another thing to look at with Suarez is how is it affecting the moral of the squad.

If it is having a negative effect then this will also play a part in what happens.

Dickerty

gimli2112 wrote: »

Fowler, when he left a piece of me died.
Carried us as a teenager.
That game against Arsenal when he got three in five minutes, jebus wept.

4 mins 33...

Davei141

gimli2112 wrote: »

Fowler, when he left a piece of me died.
Carried us as a teenager.
That game against Arsenal when he got three in five minutes, jebus wept.

Kolido wrote: »

Torres wasn't far away before he moved to Chelsea, in terms of number of goals score at least plus he had less suspensions.

Both Torres and Fowler weren't great when they left. Luis is at his absolute peak.

barone

The biggest issue for me is that luis is not bending over and taking what he deserves,he thinks it aint so bad..harsh ban etc..after his 3rd offence remember. He has not learned at all,if he admitted he was wrong,committed himself to get help psycologicly then there would be a.more brighter outlook for him,might even get a reduced ban on appeal..

Without doubt one of the elite players in world football,but a complete liability with his attitude to his offences.

But we cant replace him,so i still dont wanna see him leave,ensure he gets help and hope it dosent take the manic desire to win/score away from him.

Devilman40k

barone wrote: »

The biggest issue for me is that luis is not bending over and taking what he deserves,he thinks it aint so bad..harsh ban etc..after his 3rd offence remember. He has not learned at all,if he admitted he was wrong,committed himself to get help psycologicly then there would be a.more brighter outlook for him,might even get a reduced ban on appeal..

He hasn't accepted what he has done is wrong. Anyone can see it, the world outside Uruguay can see it. If he had done it in a red shirt you can be guaranteed he would be aware of it already.

And this is biggest issue for me, just exactly who is giving him this advice. At Anfield, Rodgers, Ayre and the rest would put him in no doubt how bad it was and that he was in the wrong.

machiavellianme

Kolido wrote: »

Torres wasn't far away before he moved to Chelsea, in terms of number of goals score at least plus he had less suspensions.

Fewer suspensions but a lot more time on the medics table. I'd rather a player suspended and able to play when it ends than one who is broken and every comeback has an air of trepidation while we wait and see if the player recovers properly.

smileyj1987

ratracer wrote: »

Is it a barca or a real jersey you got??

I'm tempted to get chewie no. 7 on the back of mine .

K-9

Any word on Llanana then, papers said he'd sign today.

monkey9

It's funny how Suarez desperately wants Champions League football when he's never around to play in the bloody competition.