Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

Chucky the tree

dairygold1990 wrote: »

since last summer arsenal are no longer letting their world class players leave instead they are buying them. Times have changed, arsenal now have the money to compete for any world class player in the world.

When suarez leaves liverpool will be back to where they were before, a mid table team. It's obvious if Liverpool are settling average players such as lambert, they will not get near 4th this year

That's because they didn't have any left, they sold them all.

Turtyturd

Grayditch wrote: »

Arsenal had a better season than us last year, by the end.

Also, we're hardly nailed on for a top 4, yet...

This place is finally getting to me.

Grayditch

They did though, if Spurs had done the same, I wouldn't say it. My Spurs are your Arsenal, Turdy, haha.

5live

Fescue wrote: »

How have Arsenal improved this year from last?

Well Fabregas hasn't left this summer...

Turtyturd

Grayditch wrote: »

They did though, if Spurs had done the same, I wouldn't say it. My Spurs are your Arsenal, Turdy, haha.

What have Spurs done that you're still bitter about?

And K9 sums it up...situations reversed Arsenal fans would still be going on about having the best season after City.

Fescue

Knex. wrote: »

I'd gladly take Arsenal's 2013/14 for Liverpool next year.

Top 4, FA Cup, and decent showing in the CL as well.

Liverpool have had similar seasons in times past, never given me as much excitement as this season.

K-9

Did Arsenal really challenge for the title that long? Seemed to be more worried about Everton for a good while.

djPSB

Fescue wrote: »

How have Arsenal improved this year from last?

Bendtner has left.

smileyj1987

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I don't think so. We still have better players all around the pitch (except up front, where both Pool and Utd have much better options) than everyone bar City and Chelsea.

If you're basing the "weak link" idea on the fact that we haven't signed anyone, while we're still in June, all the best players are at the World Cup, as is our manager, and nobody has really made any major signings bar Chelsea signing Fabregas (calling teenage full backs, decent attacking options like Lallana, and unheard of Spanish/German midfielders "major signings" is a bit of a stretch) I think that's more than a little premature.

I'm basing the weak link idea on the fact arsenal don't score enough goals . Goals win you games and arsenal need to sign players who can add goals to a very good team .
Giroud isn't a good enough striker for arsenal . They really need to go out and sign a top quality striker . One who can get 30 goals a season .
So yes I do see the attack of arsenal being the weak link of the team .

K-9

Tbh the only reason the FA Cup was so important to Arsenal was because of opposition fans slagging for so bloody long. Its still the FA Cup, nice to look back on but thats about it.

EuropeanSon

K-9 wrote: »

Did Arsenal really challenge for the title that long? Seemed to be more worried about Everton for a good while.

We were top for most of the season and right in it until ye thumped us at Anfield. We were very briefly favourites around Christmas (before we drew with Everton).

We finished 5 points off Liverpool (7 off the top), and Liverpool won 14 of their last 16 games (I think), so we must've been fairly close for a long while.

Searched it. We were level with Liverpool, same games played, 4 off Chelsea with a game in hand on the 21st of March with 29 games played. Fell off pretty sharply after that. Finished the same distance (7 points) from both Everton in 5th and City in first.

Grayditch

Turtyturd wrote: »

What have Spurs done that you're still bitter about?

Just...being... Spursy.

EuropeanSon

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I'm basing the weak link idea on the fact arsenal don't score enough goals . Goals win you games and arsenal need to sign players who can add goals to a very good team .
Giroud isn't a good enough striker for arsenal . They really need to go out and sign a top quality striker . One who can get 30 goals a season .
So yes I do see the attack of arsenal being the weak link of the team .

Fair enough. Given that we haven't signed anyone yet and we'll definitely sign somebody before August, I would expect that an attempt will be made to fix that. It's not like Arsene isn't aware, after all. He spent all last summer chasing Higuaín and Suarez for that exact reason.

Turtyturd

Good to see this thread showing it's class again :rolleyes:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Grayditch wrote: »

Just...being... Spursy.

I still haven;t forgiven them for the whole lineker-gascoigne-mabbutt-venables era when ever annoying ****wit with a seemed to wind up there.

mormank

EuropeanSon wrote: »

We were top for most of the season and right in it until ye thumped us at Anfield. We were very briefly favourites around Christmas (before we drew with Everton).

We finished 5 points off Liverpool (7 off the top), and Liverpool won 14 of their last 16 games (I think), so we must've been fairly close for a long while.

Searched it. We were level with Liverpool, same games played, 4 off Chelsea with a game in hand on the 21st of March with 29 games played. Fell off pretty sharply after that. Finished the same distance (7 points) from both Everton in 5th and City in first.

Are you not at all concerned about the losses of Sagna, one of the most solid right backs in the league for years now and Tommy V who while not being a starter for ye last season was still club captain I believe and ye're first line of cover after Mert and Kosh? Those two cannot play all season and if either get injured ye will suffer unless quality cover is attained, and no offence but Wenger has been quite poor at signing centre backs his whole Arsenal career when compared to any other position on the field.

Bloc Party!

When is the draw for the champions league groups?

Augmerson

Turtyturd wrote: »

Good to see this thread showing it's class again :rolleyes:

Worst thread in the world tbh

Turtyturd

Augmerson wrote: »

Worst thread in the world tbh

I am worried saying 'what do you expect from the worst fans in the world' will be carded. :pac:

MacBizzle

Bloc Party! wrote: »

When is the draw for the champions league groups?

28th August

Fescue

At the risk of sounding like an absolute eejit, a risk I take everytime I open my mouth to be honest, if we miss out on Sanchez and Suarez does leave, should Sterling be asked to play in a similar role that Sanchez would have done?

I see some similarities between the two. Sterling needs to add goals but if he is given the freedom of plaing up front, perhaps he can.

5starpool

K-9 wrote: »

Tbh the only reason the FA Cup was so important to Arsenal was because of opposition fans slagging for so bloody long. Its still the FA Cup, nice to look back on but thats about it.

Maybe I'm in the minority about this, and while I fully realise the excitement of winning the FA Cup is not what it was 25 years ago or so, it's still a trophy I want Liverpool to win every season.

K-9

5starpool wrote: »

Maybe I'm in the minority about this, and while I fully realise the excitement of winning the FA Cup is not what it was 25 years ago or so, it's still a trophy I want Liverpool to win every season.

Ah yeah, but would I take it over 3rd and guaranteed CL group football or it and 4th and maybe a tough draw? Nope.

bitemeluis

Fescue wrote: »

At the risk of sounding like an absolute eejit, a risk I take everytime I open my mouth to be honest, if we miss out on Sanchez and Suarez does leave, should Sterling be asked to play in a similar role that Sanchez would have done?

I see some similarities between the two. Sterling needs to add goals but if he is given the freedom of plaing up front, perhaps he can.

No - pace is nullified once a defender sits back, best out on the wing

MD1990

Who should we sign if Suarez goes & Sanchez doesn't join?
I can't think of too many maybe Jackson Martinez

Fescue

bitemeluis wrote: »

No - pace is nullified once a defender sits back, best out on the wing

His best performances for Liverpool have come when he has played in the centre.

Agent Coulson

The problem we all have trying to guess who we could should sign is Brendan Rodgers probably doesn't want to sign them.

Sakho probabaly is the only big name he has signed so far. Nuri Sahin I guess could be called another.

All others he has signed wouldn't really have been called big name signings.

bitemeluis

In the hole behind the striker there is still room to use his pace - not up front. The majority of quality EPL strikers werent blessed with pace, just quick off the mark - Shearer, Rush, VP, Rooney, maybe Defoe and Owen being exceptions - but even Suarez isnt that fast - just an excellent reader of the game

Fescue

bitemeluis wrote: »

In the hole behind the striker there is still room to use his pace - not up front. The majority of quality EPL strikers werent blessed with pace, just quick off the mark - Shearer, Rush, VP, Rooney, maybe Defoe and Owen being exceptions - but even Suarez isnt that fast - just an excellent reader of the game

I was suggesting he plays as a second striker in the same way Sanchez does for Chile. Given freedom to move around, find space and take players on.

MacBizzle

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The problem we all have trying to guess who we could should sign is Brendan Rodgers probably doesn't want to sign them.

Sakho probabaly is the only big name he has signed so far. Nuri Sahin I guess could be called another.

All others he has signed wouldn't really have been called big name signings.

That's as much to do with FSG's transfer policy than it is with Rodgers.