Avoiding Carbs, is this healthy/good/too much?

boredatwork82

I am trying to lose a bit (a lot!) of weight, down about 3 stone already but I have started to get a bit slack, so I have decided to focus more on my diet than ever before.

The only carbs I am eating is a bowl of porridge.

Anyways this is a sample of what I am doing.

Morning: Wheatgrass, flaxseed mixed with water, bowl of porridge with milk, and mug of green tea

Mid morning about 10 grapes

Lunch: large lunch box of leaves, with some red onion and celery, half a lemon squeezed over it, 1 tin tuna infused with chilli, garlic and lemongrass (did this myself with a drop of coconut oil), and 2 hard boiled eggs.

Mid afternoon: more grapes.

Late dinner: large helping of leaves, some home made guacamole (chillis, avocado, garlic, coriander, diced red onion, lime juice), 2 bbq chicken fillets, 1 bbq sausage.

My breakfast will probably be the same most mornings, but my worry is that I am eating too much of the healthy stuff even if its healthy.

My lunch today is about 1 and a half chicken fillets, with a large lunch box of salad, 2 hard boiled eggs and an avocado too much.

Anyone want to critique or offer opinions on this. I have just had a realization that I am ridiculously uneducated when it comes to nutrition - hence why I have so much weight to lose.

Bruno26

Watch this.

http://youtu.be/Bsx72V4IpJY

coffee_cake

Well grapes are carbs too
but yeah looks fine to me
Check your calories as well to make sure they're not way too low or high

generic2012

I think everyone about to embark on a diet, regardless of age, regardless of sex, regardless of height, regardless of race, that wants to succeed on their diet should undertake this one fundamental and perhaps, the most important, step of their weight loss journey....




.....DO NOT LISTEN TO BRUNO26

boredatwork82

Thanks guys, just watched that video, pretty much re-enforces the realization I have come to lately myself. I was always told to eat loads of carbs for training and matchs and all that, and developed awful habits.
Only the people telling me that were probably misinformed too.

Didn't realize grapes were carbs. I will finish off this punnet of grapes because they are delicious and sweet! and then I will try and find other snack options.

Any good sites or resources for checking calories Bluewolf?

boredatwork82

generic2012 wrote: »

I think everyone about to embark on a diet, regardless of age, regardless of sex, regardless of height, regardless of race, that wants to succeed on their diet should undertake this one fundamental and perhaps, the most important, step of their weight loss journey....




.....DO NOT LISTEN TO BRUNO26

Care to develop?

I presume they don't mean go deep fry everything in hydrogenated vegetable oils, but to get good fats in the form of nuts and avocados and the like.

Just to add, the main goal behind my current weight loss was to try and eliminate sugar from my diet, which I did quite successfully, and energy levels went through the roof, and weight dropped.
But need to keep challenging and working on this so I don't fall into a rut like the last 10 years!

Bruno26

generic2012 wrote: »

I think everyone about to embark on a diet, regardless of age, regardless of sex, regardless of height, regardless of race, that wants to succeed on their diet should undertake this one fundamental and perhaps, the most important, step of their weight loss journey....




.....DO NOT LISTEN TO BRUNO26

Ha! Listen to generic2012 instead- another anonymous person on the internet!

coffee_cake

boredatwork82 wrote: »

Thanks guys, just watched that video, pretty much re-enforces the realization I have come to lately myself. I was always told to eat loads of carbs for training and matchs and all that, and developed awful habits.
Only the people telling me that were probably misinformed too.

Didn't realize grapes were carbs. I will finish off this punnet of grapes because they are delicious and sweet! and then I will try and find other snack options.

Any good sites or resources for checking calories Bluewolf?

Well they're not bad! as long as you're not eating several boxes or anything I'm just saying your "my only carbs is porridge" thing wasn't quite true ^^

myfitnesspal is good

Eating carbs for matches sounds okay to me, if you do a lot of cardio you would need some, or at least I found I did anyway
but if you aren't training I think it's easier to cut them down

Bruno26

bluewolf wrote: »

Well they're not bad! as long as you're not eating several boxes or anything I'm just saying your "my only carbs is porridge" thing wasn't quite true ^^

myfitnesspal is good

Eating carbs for matches sounds okay to me, if you do a lot of cardio you would need some, or at least I found I did anyway
but if you aren't training I think it's easier to cut them down

Humans don't need carbs to survive / thrive but can't survive without protein and fat. I heard one of Ireland's most well known personal trainers on Newstalk yesterday advising to eat Jaffa cakes or bread and jam before a match!

coffee_cake

Jaffa cakes are pretty tasty in fairness

Bruno26

bluewolf wrote: »

Jaffa cakes are pretty tasty in fairness

I guess this is why!

Glucose-Fructose Syrup, Plain Chocolate (19%) [Sugar, Cocoa Mass, Vegetable Fat, Cocoa Butter, Butter Oil, Emulsifiers (Soya Lecithin, E476), Natural Flavouring], Sugar, Wheat Flour, Whole Egg, Water, Dextrose Monohydrate, Concentrated Orange Juice (8% Orange Juice Equivalent), Glucose Syrup, Vegetable Oil, Humectant (Glycerine), Citric Acid, Gelling Agent (Pectin), Emulsifier (E471), Raising Agents (Ammonium Bicarbonate, Disodium Diphosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate), Dried Whole Egg, Acidity Regulator (Sodium Citrate), Natural Orange Flavouring, Colour (Curcumin)

generic2012

Bruno26 wrote: »

I guess this is why!

Glucose-Fructose Syrup, Plain Chocolate (19%) [Sugar, Cocoa Mass, Vegetable Fat, Cocoa Butter, Butter Oil, Emulsifiers (Soya Lecithin, E476), Natural Flavouring], Sugar, Wheat Flour, Whole Egg, Water, Dextrose Monohydrate, Concentrated Orange Juice (8% Orange Juice Equivalent), Glucose Syrup, Vegetable Oil, Humectant (Glycerine), Citric Acid, Gelling Agent (Pectin), Emulsifier (E471), Raising Agents (Ammonium Bicarbonate, Disodium Diphosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate), Dried Whole Egg, Acidity Regulator (Sodium Citrate), Natural Orange Flavouring, Colour (Curcumin)

Sounds about right....mmmmmmm

generic2012

Ingredients of an egg:

AQUA (75.8%), AMINO ACIDS (12.6%) (GLUTAMIC ACID
(14%), ASPARTIC ACID (11%), VALINE (9%), ARGININE (8%), LEUCINE
(8%), LYSINE (7%), SERINE (7%), PHENYLALANINE (6%), ALANINE (5%),
ISOLEUCINE (5%), PROLINE (4%), TYROSINE (3%), THREONINE (3%),
GLYCINE (3%), HISTIDINE (2%), METHIONINE (3%), CYSTINE (2%),
TRYPTOPHAN (1%)); FATTY ACIDS (9.9%) (OCTADECENOIC ACID (45%),
HEXADECANOIC ACID (32%), OCTADECANOIC ACID (12%),
EICOSATETRAENOIC ACID (3%), EICOSANOIC ACID (2%), DOCOSANOIC
ACID (1%), TETRACOSANOIC ACID (1%), OCTANOIC ACID (<1%),
DECANOIC ACID (<1%), DODECANOIC ACID (<1%), TETRADECANOIC
ACID (<1%), PENTADECANOIC ACID (<1%), HEPTADECANOIC ACID (<1%),
TETRADECENOIC ACID (<1%), HEXADECENOIC ACID (<1%),
EICOSENOIC ACID (<1%), DOCOSENOIC ACID (<1%), OMEGA-6 FATTY
ACID: OCTADECADIENOIC ACID (12%), OMEGA-3 FATTY ACID:
OCTADECATRIENOIC ACID (<1%), EICOSAPENTAENOIC ACID (EPA)
(<1%), OMEGA-3 FATTY ACID: DOCOSAHEXAENOIC ACID (DHA) (<1%));
SUGARS (0.8%) (GLUCOSE (30%), SUCROSE (15%), FRUCTOSE (15%),
LACTOSE (15%), MALTOSE (15%), GALACTOSE (15%)); COLOUR (E160c,
E160a), E306, E101; FLAVOURS (PHENYLACETALDEHYDE, DODECA-2-
ENAL, HEPTA-2-ENAL, HEXADECANAL, OCTADECANAL, PENTAN-2-ONE,
BUTAN-2-ONE, ACETALDEHYDE, FORMALDEHYDE, ACETONE); SHELL
(E170), ALSO CONTAINS BENZENE & BENZENE DERIVATIVES, ESTERS,
FURANS, SULFUR-CONTAINING COMPOUNDS AND TERPENES.

Bruno26

generic2012 wrote: »

Ingredients of an egg:

AQUA (75.8%), AMINO ACIDS (12.6%) (GLUTAMIC ACID
(14%), ASPARTIC ACID (11%), VALINE (9%), ARGININE (8%), LEUCINE
(8%), LYSINE (7%), SERINE (7%), PHENYLALANINE (6%), ALANINE (5%),
ISOLEUCINE (5%), PROLINE (4%), TYROSINE (3%), THREONINE (3%),
GLYCINE (3%), HISTIDINE (2%), METHIONINE (3%), CYSTINE (2%),
TRYPTOPHAN (1%)); FATTY ACIDS (9.9%) (OCTADECENOIC ACID (45%),
HEXADECANOIC ACID (32%), OCTADECANOIC ACID (12%),
EICOSATETRAENOIC ACID (3%), EICOSANOIC ACID (2%), DOCOSANOIC
ACID (1%), TETRACOSANOIC ACID (1%), OCTANOIC ACID (<1%),
DECANOIC ACID (<1%), DODECANOIC ACID (<1%), TETRADECANOIC
ACID (<1%), PENTADECANOIC ACID (<1%), HEPTADECANOIC ACID (<1%),
TETRADECENOIC ACID (<1%), HEXADECENOIC ACID (<1%),
EICOSENOIC ACID (<1%), DOCOSENOIC ACID (<1%), OMEGA-6 FATTY
ACID: OCTADECADIENOIC ACID (12%), OMEGA-3 FATTY ACID:
OCTADECATRIENOIC ACID (<1%), EICOSAPENTAENOIC ACID (EPA)
(<1%), OMEGA-3 FATTY ACID: DOCOSAHEXAENOIC ACID (DHA) (<1%));
SUGARS (0.8%) (GLUCOSE (30%), SUCROSE (15%), FRUCTOSE (15%),
LACTOSE (15%), MALTOSE (15%), GALACTOSE (15%)); COLOUR (E160c,
E160a), E306, E101; FLAVOURS (PHENYLACETALDEHYDE, DODECA-2-
ENAL, HEPTA-2-ENAL, HEXADECANAL, OCTADECANAL, PENTAN-2-ONE,
BUTAN-2-ONE, ACETALDEHYDE, FORMALDEHYDE, ACETONE); SHELL
(E170), ALSO CONTAINS BENZENE & BENZENE DERIVATIVES, ESTERS,
FURANS, SULFUR-CONTAINING COMPOUNDS AND TERPENES.

Do Jaffa cakes pop out of a hens ass?!

generic2012

Bruno26 wrote: »

Do Jaffa cakes pop out of a hens ass?!

No. And carbs don't make you fat. Everything cleared up?

Bruno26

generic2012 wrote: »

No. And carbs don't make you fat. Everything cleared up?

Ha - You just compared eggs to Jaffa cakes.

They do.

Please explain why almost anyone in here who offers an opinion to someone trying to lose weight/fat recommends a reduction in carbohydrates?

Essien

Jaysus I'd fecking love a Jaffa cake!

generic2012

Because it's a means to reduce calories, calories make you fat. You seem a bit out of touch. The nut jobs you are linking in blog posts and youtube videos say to replace carbs with fat while people here have the common sense to say lower carbs and leave it add that.

Random boards member: take out fizzy drinks.
Taubes, Sisson, Wolfe, tin foil hat brigade: take out fizzy drinks....and replace with stick of butter.

generic2012

Essien wrote: »

Jaysus I'd fecking love a Jaffa cake!

Have you a death wish!?

btkm8unsl0w5r4

generic2012 wrote: »

Have you a death wish!?

This is true, I once ate a packet of jaffa cakes in one sitting and I am now dead.

Bruno26

generic2012 wrote: »

Because it's a means to reduce calories, calories make you fat. You seem a bit out of touch. The nut jobs you are linking in blog posts and youtube videos say to replace carbs with fat while people here have the common sense to say lower carbs and leave it add that.

Random boards member: take out fizzy drinks.
Taubes, Sisson, Wolfe, tin foil hat brigade: take out fizzy drinks....and replace with stick of butter.

Bad calories make you fat. I refer you once again to Ancel Keys! Saturated / healthy fats are good for us. If people ate more fat they wouldn't crave the bad calories/ carbs that make you fat.

Alf Veedersane

The OP was eating too much.

"Eat loads of carbs on match days and training" gets trotted out with no advice on how much and people think they just need to fill their boots with carbs.

Therein lies the problem.

boredatwork82

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The OP was eating too much.

"Eat loads of carbs on match days and training" gets trotted out with no advice on how much and people think they just need to fill their boots with carbs.

Therein lies the problem.

Hit the nail on the head. That was it, have a few wine gums etc.
Load up on carbs the days before a game, and all that.

I really lowered that over the last year, but was still eating a bit, one of my favourite pre training carb meals was peanut butter and jam sandwich mmmm.


now, I just go training and eat after it.

ford2600

boredatwork82 wrote: »

Hit the nail on the head. That was it, have a few wine gums etc.
Load up on carbs the days before a game, and all that.

I really lowered that over the last year, but was still eating a bit, one of my favourite pre training carb meals was peanut butter and jam sandwich mmmm.


now, I just go training and eat after it.

OP just a few comments
* You've lost 3 stone, well done; you obviously have corrected something and know what you are doing.
* Nobody knows your body better than you. If you learned something that works, by accident or by taking on advice, stick to it.
* You eat a lot of whole foods and obviously cook; your a lot of the way there
* What works for you may not work for someone else and vice versa

I think you post in cycling forum and I will be starting a thread there soon on cycling and food. Over the years I've gotten more and more interested at your typical cyclist/sportive rider and their struggles with weight. My thread will generate more questions than answers but it may interest you

10 months into a 12 month experiment on eating high fat low carb to power ultra long distance cycling and will at end detail MY experiences. I should add I've never been overweight and don't run that badly on high carb.

However most guys I know that cycle, other than the skinny mountain goat types, struggle somewhat with weight and are convinced that high carb is the only way to power cycling. I know guys who do race the ras and despite cycling 400km plus a week struggle with weight.

runawaybishop

Bruno26 wrote: »

Bad calories make you fat. I refer you once again to Ancel Keys! Saturated / healthy fats are good for us. If people ate more fat they wouldn't crave the bad calories/ carbs that make you fat.

Please stop posting in here.

Jimmyie

bahahha looks like there's a lot of tension between posters here.

coffee_cake

Jimmyie wrote: »

bahahha looks like there's a lot of tension between posters here.

It's the lack of jaffa cakes

Bruno26

runawaybishop wrote: »

Please stop posting in here.

Why? Have you a vested interest in this area?

Bruno26

generic2012 wrote: »

Because it's a means to reduce calories, calories make you fat. You seem a bit out of touch. The nut jobs you are linking in blog posts and youtube videos say to replace carbs with fat while people here have the common sense to say lower carbs and leave it add that.

Random boards member: take out fizzy drinks.
Taubes, Sisson, Wolfe, tin foil hat brigade: take out fizzy drinks....and replace with stick of butter.

Butter -You obviously haven't read Sisson and Wolf either.

TimeToShine

Jaffa cakes are my biggest weakness.

If they are in the house, they are getting eaten full stop. I'd get through 1 or 36 and barely break a sweat.

Truly the devils creation.

ford2600

TimeToShine wrote: »

Jaffa cakes are my biggest weakness.

If they are in the house, they are getting eaten full stop. I'd get through 1 or 36 and barely break a sweat.

Truly the devils creation.

There was a time when I was probably worse, jaffa cakes and milkados.

Don't know why, and haven't heard anyone else report it, but upping fat made it very easy for me to cut out such stuff. Lots of lads really struggle to cut sugar.

Have seen the opposite to, when people are advised to reduce fat, sweet tooth often gets worse.