Scumbagville

Un Croissant

Is there a town in the Netherlands for scumbags to live in? My google search of Scumbag Street, Scumbagville, The Netherlands isn't bringing anything up.

ThinkAboutIt

Have you confused this with the Northside, Dublin perhaps?

Renegade Mechanic

Un Croissant wrote: »

Is there a town in the Netherlands for scumbags to live in? My google search of Scumbag Street, Scumbagville, The Netherlands isn't bringing anything up.

Moving home are we?:D

Sh1tbag OToole

Schuimzakstraat is what you're looking for

K.Flyer

Full Story here..
http://amsterdam.com/amsterdams-new-scum-villages

Amsterdam’s New Scum Villages..  
It’s is hard to believe that one of the most liberal cities in the world is proposing to move citizens exhibiting anti-social behavior to residential punishment “villages.”

They are building these "Homes" out of shipping containers...

Hootanany

Wish we could that here.

MacBizzle

Hootanany wrote: »

Wish we could that here.

We do, it's why they made Ballymun.

mickydoomsux

K.Flyer wrote: »

Full Story here..
http://amsterdam.com/amsterdams-new-scum-villages


They are building these "Homes" out of shipping containers...

Great idea.

If you aren't willing to be a decent member of society then, **** you, go live in a shipping container with the rest of the garbage.

K.Flyer

Hootanany wrote: »

Wish we could that here.

Spike Island would be the ideal place for them.

Czarcasm

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Great idea.

If you aren't willing to be a decent member of society then, **** you, go live in a shipping container with the rest of the garbage.

That's the spirit micky, worked out well for Irish society in the past, didn't it?

Un Croissant

Thanks. I knew I had heard something in AH about it but couldn't for the life of me remember.

Renegade Mechanic

Amsterdam’s New Scum Villages..
It’s is hard to believe that one of the most liberal cities in the world is proposing to move citizens exhibiting anti-social behavior to residential punishment “villages.”

Huh... Never ceases to amaze me how surprised people are with how hardline a stance such a "liberal" place takes on people that cause trouble.

Freedom comes with a little responsibility. If someone cant be responsible, I dont see why they should be completely free.

DEFTLEFTHAND

South Rotterdam. If they support Feyenoord they're usually trash.

DEFTLEFTHAND

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

South Rotterdam. If they support Feyenoord they're usually trash.

Tee hee hee......Rotterdam.
I geddit! :pac:

amacca

Czarcasm wrote: »

That's the spirit micky, worked out well for Irish society in the past, didn't it?

Easy now, I think it has merit…we could put big fence or wall with searchlights and attack dogs and one of those sirens around it……..brutish guards with high powered rifles, strong jawlines and an arbitrary cruel streak would be mandatory

It could form the backdrop for a heartwarming tale of a rags to riches story achieved against all the odds


(joking aside some of the people that wreck free housing provided by the taxpayer for them or engage in persistent anti-social behaviour are particularly sickening - it would be nice to see some consequences that don't cost other people money for them)

vicwatson

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Have you confused this with the Northside, Dublin perhaps?

Or maybe where all the culchies live on the southside perhaps

fleet_admiral

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Have you confused this with the Northside, Dublin perhaps?

maybe he is confusing it with ballyfermot, tallaght, clondalkin, sallynoggin etc...

endacl

Hootanany wrote: »

Wish we could that here.

We did. They got on well in the end!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_penal_colonies

ElvisChrist6

Un Croissant wrote: »

Thanks. I knew I had heard something in AH about it but couldn't for the life of me remember.

You might be confusing it with any other post in every thread on After Hours ever.

JohnFalstaff

It's Endemol's latest reality TV stunt.

Think Big Brother meets The Running Man with a dash of Hunger Games for the kids.

meoklmrk91

I would live to see pictures of the inside of some of these shipping containers, I don't know why just curious I suppose. I think it's a good idea, it's not like people are sent there straight away for the littlest thing, they have to do a 6 month course first and if they continue to misbehave then they are sent there. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Greenmachine

We could do with a new australia. Or perhap sentence someone to an induced coma, maybe it would be cheaper than keep them in prision. Would be a nice head **** to some scumbag if he had not seen any family in 10 years. He would not suffer either till he woke up.

eeeee

Hootanany wrote: »

Wish we could that here.

We do, it's called longford. It's not worked out well

William F

A lot of 'scumbags' in Ireland wouldn't even register on the scumbag radar in many countries. There just seems to be this thing in Ireland. I can't put my finger on it.

catallus

Why would anyone want to put their finger on a scumbag?!

tashiusclay

K.Flyer wrote: »

Spike Island would be the ideal place for them.

Could we petition for it to be reopened for this purpose, I'm sure if FG etc thought it'd score a few votes it'd be reopened first thing monday morning

meoklmrk91

tashiusclay wrote: »

Could we petition for it to be reopened for this purpose, I'm sure if FG etc thought it'd score a few votes it'd be reopened first thing monday morning

Never going to happen. Not least because the government handed it over to Cork Co. Council and they are trying to turn it into an Alcatraz style tourist attraction, you can go camping or even send your kids to summer camp there. So yeah never gonna happen.

On another note they should have a big music festival out there, would be epic!

shruikan2553

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Never going to happen. Not least because the government handed it over to Cork Co. Council and they are trying to turn it into an Alcatraz style tourist attraction, you can go camping or even send your kids to summer camp there. So yeah never gonna happen.

On another note they should have a big music festival out there, would be epic!

They can still do that, get some tourism in the hunting sector and take children out there t learn what happens if you act like a scumbag.

323

Un Croissant wrote: »

Is there a town in the Netherlands for scumbags to live in? My google search of Scumbag Street, Scumbagville, The Netherlands isn't bringing anything up.

You are describing how most of the cloggies I know seem to refer to Den Helder.

feargale

Did any of you ever meet or engage with some of the 95% of decent law-abiding people living in some estates in Ireland, whose lives are a 24/7 living hell because of the anti-social behaviour of the 5% of bullies? I would like to see something done about the living conditions of that 95% before I would break sweat over the 5% who would riot in prison if they were denied the world cup final. Many of the 95% have little education and lack the skills necessary to deal in any meaningful way with their torment and tormentors. They are used to living in houses with broken windows etc. caused by others, where they don't have the money themselves for repairs and councils can be slow to remedy, especially in these straitened times.
There has been reference here to people being transported to Australia, often for trivial offences such as stealing food to feed starving families. In my lifetime I cannot recall any offender being dealt with in that way.
I wasn't aware of this Dutch project until I encountered it here. It's difficult to comment in the circumstances, except to say that there appears to be lots of steel, and maybe perspex glass too, not very pleasing to the eye, but relatively unbreakable. I'm sure many of the law-abiding poor would be glad to have them.
Did one of you mention FG courting votes by taking a hardline stance? I hold a brief for no party, but the opposite can bring electoral benefits to other parties.
But, sure, isn't it grand for all of us in our middle class semi-ds, or better still in gated communities in leafy suburbs, insulated from most crime, being able to tell the 95% who have no choice in these matters that they must defer to the 5% who do have a choice.

LorMal

MacBizzle wrote: »

We do, it's why they made Ballymun.

I am from Ballymun. I am no scumbag. My parents and friends are not scum. I find that very offensive.

What is it like living in the tropical utopia that is Cork, then?

No Pants

Czarcasm wrote: »

That's the spirit micky, worked out well for Irish society in the past, didn't it?

When did we try it?

bnt

Maybe this is what we need to complete the trilogy?
Escape from New York (1981)
Escape from L.A. (1996)
Escape from Amsterdam ,,?

Maximus Alexander

Greenmachine wrote: »

We could do with a new australia. Or perhap sentence someone to an induced coma, maybe it would be cheaper than keep them in prision. Would be a nice head **** to some scumbag if he had not seen any family in 10 years. He would not suffer either till he woke up.

We don't need a new Australia, we still have the old one. We're still sending people there too, except now we make them think it was their idea.

conorhal

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Huh... Never ceases to amaze me how surprised people are with how hardline a stance such a "liberal" place takes on people that cause trouble.

Freedom comes with a little responsibility. If someone cant be responsible, I dont see why they should be completely free.

The 'surprised' are usually the same people that insist we should be paying Swedish level taxes so that we can enjoy Swedish levels of social services, but ignore the fact that even those earning 25k and under pay 30% in taxes in that country.
They literally choke on their herbal tea when I say, 'no problem, I'd be happy to pay an extra 10% tax to accrue the same benefits as the bottom third of earners, so long as you're willing to lump that bottom third of taxpayers with double the increase you impose on me.
Everybody is expected to contribute in Sweden, if you don't you can expect sanction for it, so this move doesn't surprise me in the least.

Reekwind

No Pants wrote: »

When did we try it?

Ireland has never lacked for urban ghettoes. In this country we long ago achieved what the Dutch are only trying now: the near-complete separation of rich and poor.

(Think back to that long tradition of AH threads moaning about 'scumbags' invading middle class spaces - 'scumbags on the beach', 'junkies on O'Connell St', etc)

No Pants

Reekwind wrote: »

Ireland has never lacked for urban ghettoes. In this country we long ago achieved what the Dutch are only trying now: the near-complete separation of rich and poor.

(Think back to that long tradition of AH threads moaning about 'scumbags' invading middle class spaces - 'scumbags on the beach', 'junkies on O'Connell St', etc)

A scumbag has got nothing to do with being rich or poor. It's about behaviour.

K.Flyer

feargale wrote: »

But, sure, isn't it grand for all of us in our middle class semi-ds, or better still in gated communities in leafy suburbs, insulated from most crime, being able to tell the 95% who have no choice in these matters that they must defer to the 5% who do have a choice

Funnily enough, through my work, I have found that there are as many low lifes living and wreaking havoc in these very areas.
And when the ("educated" refering to early part of your post) neighbours expect to be able to have the situation dealt with in a swift manner, they find the odds and the laws stacked very favourably in the offenders favour, and are quite taken aback at how difficult it is to have them dealt with.

Dravokivich

bnt wrote: »

Maybe this is what we need to complete the trilogy?
Escape from New York (1981)
Escape from L.A. (1996)
Escape from Amsterdam ,,?

The next one is apparently "Escape from the World"

Maximus Alexander

Dravokivich wrote: »

The next one is apparently "Escape from the World"

Was that not already released under a different title; "Elysium"?

Hande hoche!

bnt wrote: »

Maybe this is what we need to complete the trilogy?
Escape from New York (1981)
Escape from L.A. (1996)
Escape from Amsterdam ,,?

We need more Kurt Russell in our lives.

FTA69

feargale wrote: »

Many of the 95% have little education and lack the skills necessary to deal in any meaningful way with their torment and tormentors.

Oh don't be so bloody patronising.

MacBizzle

LorMal wrote: »

I am from Ballymun. I am no scumbag. My parents and friends are not scum. I find that very offensive.

What is it like living in the tropical utopia that is Cork, then?

Jesus Christ it was a joke, relax, no need to get all offended by it. If I got offended everytime anyone made a snide comment about Cork I'd have lost the plot.

I find your sarcastic insinuations towards Cork offensive... :rolleyes:

LorMal

MacBizzle wrote: »

Jesus Christ it was a joke, relax, no need to get all offended by it. If I got offended everytime anyone made a snide comment about Cork I'd have lost the plot.

I find your sarcastic insinuations towards Cork offensive... :rolleyes:

Right, its a joke and it my fault for taking offence when you said that where I am from is the Irish 'Scumbagville'.
Very sorry for taking offence, please forgive.

And do me a favour and keep yourself and your jokes in Cork.

MacBizzle

LorMal wrote: »

Right, its a joke and it my fault for taking offence when you said that where I am from is the Irish 'Scumbagville'.
Very sorry for taking offence, please forgive.

And do me a favour and keep yourself and your jokes in Cork.

Now you just sound like a hypocrite.

No one felt the need to express their outrage about the two following posts:

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Have you confused this with the Northside, Dublin perhaps?

gadetra wrote: »

We do, it's called longford. It's not worked out well

It is nothing but sarcasm.

Look, I'm sorry. I just don't see any reason why you have to take the whole thing so seriously when no offence was intended. I'm done with the bitching now, I could do without an infraction.

LorMal

MacBizzle wrote: »

Now you just sound like a hypocrite.

No one felt the need to express their outrage about the two following posts:





It is nothing but sarcasm.

Look, I'm sorry. I just don't see any reason why you have to take the whole thing so seriously when no offence was intended. I'm done with the bitching now, I could do without an infraction.

No problem. Have a nice day...

feargale

FTA69 wrote: »

Oh don't be so bloody patronising.

So, stating a fact is patronising? Would you like me to say they have PhDs? Don't be so bloody precious. Have you engaged with these people? I have. My guess is you would rather score a political point than see the lives of these poor people ameliorated.

feargale

K.Flyer wrote: »

Funnily enough, through my work, I have found that there are as many low lifes living and wreaking havoc in these very areas.
And when the ("educated" refering to early part of your post) neighbours expect to be able to have the situation dealt with in a swift manner, they find the odds and the laws stacked very favourably in the offenders favour, and are quite taken aback at how difficult it is to have them dealt with.

So true! So true that some might say you are stating the obvious, though clearly a few still don't get it. However, if and when that problem is solved it won't automatically cure the problems of the victims in the other places. I'm not saying there is no correlation between the two situations, but solving one will not automatically solve the other.

feargale

FTA69 wrote: »

Oh don't be so bloody patronising.

Don't be so bloody precious.

FTA69

feargale wrote: »

So, stating a fact is patronising? Would you like me to say they have PhDs? Don't be so bloody precious. Have you engaged with these people? I have. My guess is you would rather score a political point than see the lives of these poor people ameliorated.

Have I engaged with "these people"? Unlike yourself, I'm from a council estate with a fairly prominent anti-social behaviour problem so don't need to be lectured on the fabric of these places thanks. Secondly, someone's education or skills has little to do with how they'd react or cope with troublesome neighbours. Do you think if someone had a Masters or something they'd be better able to handle someone robbing their car or blaring music at 4am?

Nobody, irregardless of their education or background, likes to deal with anti social people. PhDs etc have nothing to do with it. "Oh if only I had more formal education I'd be able to tackle those youths tearing around on a quad bike".

You're talking nonsense.

feargale

FTA69 wrote: »

Have I engaged with "these people"? Unlike yourself, I'm from a council estate with a fairly prominent anti-social behaviour problem so don't need to be lectured on the fabric of these places thanks. Secondly, someone's education or skills has little to do with how they'd react or cope with troublesome neighbours. Do you think if someone had a Masters or something they'd be better able to handle someone robbing their car or blaring music at 4am?
Nobody, irregardless of their education or background, likes to deal with anti social people. PhDs etc have nothing to do with it. "Oh if only I had more formal education I'd be able to tackle those youths tearing around on a quad bike".
You're talking nonsense.

Oh don't be so bloody touchy.