Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

ericzeking

Very manageable start but with the 3 promoted teams in there you have to factor in their honeymoon periods where they'll play above themselves and may cause us some problems....I seem to remember us struggling against Burnley early in the season the last time they came up, did we draw with them or something, I think we might have even lost, I remember their ground was rocking the same night as it was like one of the biggest games in their history.

There's no easy games in this league Jeff...

FutureGuy

Easy fixtures eh?

Let's see who we bring in before we start making assumptions. Sunderland A will be a stern test and Swansea are no slouches either. We have a lot of players at the WC.

FutureGuy

I reckon that our first game will get moved...would like to get over to it.

irishfeen

FutureGuy wrote: »

I reckon that our first game will get moved...would like to get over to it.

Won't be on sat 3pm anyway so it could be any of Sat 12:45/5:30, Sunday 1pm/4pm or Mon at 8pm ... It all depends on television broadcasting between BT and Sky.

Fenix

I see a Portuguese journo on twitter has reported we've been on talks for Gaitan again, says deal would involve Bebe going the other way.

Just what we needed.

Gaitan again on MUFC radar. Talks between clubs since two weeks ago. The deal should be done and Bebe involved.

Not saying everything he says is gospel, but he seems to spout a good deal less sh1t than most.

dahat

Buttner looks off to Dymano Moscow it seems, convinced now a decent LB is coming in now.
Comments by Buttner himself are the source.

NTMK

Fenix wrote: »

I see a Portuguese journo on twitter has reported we've been on talks for Gaitan again, says deal would involve Bebe going the other way.

Just what we needed.



Not saying everything he says is gospel, but he seems to spout a good deal less sh1t than most.

jesus if we have Sneijder rumours we're back where we were 3 years ago

MagicIRL

I've always wondered how Buttner would fair at LW instead of LB.

beakerjoe

MagicIRL wrote: »

I've always wondered how Buttner would fair at LW instead of LB.

Awh he seems liek a nice hard working lad, but he just doesnt have it in his locker. With Evra staying and if the Shaw deal happens, its curtains for him.

TheDoc

I can only feel sorry for Moyes looking at the start LVG has been handed haha

Expecting us to be out of the blocks, simply won't accept anything short of top 2 by the time we hit Chelsea in October.

No excuses this time around, World Cup aside, it will have been the third transfer window available to the club to sort the squad issues out. a Manchester United squad should see those fixtures and be foaming at the mouth about being in the title hunt by Christmas.

TheDoc

Fenix wrote: »

I see a Portuguese journo on twitter has reported we've been on talks for Gaitan again, says deal would involve Bebe going the other way.

Just what we needed.



Not saying everything he says is gospel, but he seems to spout a good deal less sh1t than most.

I believe the player himself caused a little stir with some comments he made saying he expects to leave the club this summer.

newballsplease

@elko_B
According to De Telegraaf, Alexander Buttner will sign for Russian side Dinamo Moscow on Wednesday.
Buttner: 'Van Gaal never gave me a chance in the Dutch team, even though I was MOTM for MUFC 14 times. I'm leaving at just the right moment'
Buttner really did say 14 times. De Telegraaf also writes he made 50 appearances. My guess? They're including his reserve-team appearances.



A dutch journo on twitter....

Kerrydude1981

newballsplease wrote: »

@elko_B
According to De Telegraaf, Alexander Buttner will sign for Russian side Dinamo Moscow on Wednesday.
Buttner: 'Van Gaal never gave me a chance in the Dutch team, even though I was MOTM for MUFC 14 times. I'm leaving at just the right moment'
Buttner really did say 14 times. De Telegraaf also writes he made 50 appearances. My guess? They're including his reserve-team appearances.



A dutch journo on twitter....

MOTM 14 times?? Think Alex should stay out of the sun

Yorkie was on SSN there chatting about the new fixtures,

SSN played it safe keeping him up in Manchester and away from Kate Abdo

markc1184

When was Buttner voted MOTM 14 times?

zarquon

Obviously a mistranslation as Buttner played for Man United first team 14 times!

Kerrydude1981

markc1184 wrote: »

When was Buttner voted MOTM 14 times?

Must have been on Fifa.

Lucas Hood

I can't even remember him playing in 14 games nevermind being Motm in them.

v3ttel

I haven't seen an awful lot of Gaitan but when I have, he has never been impressive. At least not to the level where I thought I'd be delighted for United to sign him (like Di Maria, Coentrao when they were at Benfica).

Hope to be proved completely wrong if he does sign.

MagicIRL

v3ttel wrote: »

I haven't seen an awful lot of Gaitan but when I have, he has never been impressive. At least not to the level where I thought I'd be delighted for United to sign him (like Di Maria, Coentrao when they were at Benfica).

Hope to be proved completely wrong if he does sign.

It's worth a punt if Bébé goes the other way. No way he's worse than Young or Valencia on the wing.

TheDoc

Just for some clarification, as that quote may well be dodgy translation, Buttner had an extending run in the reserves at times where he did receive a number of MOTM awards.

Was nearly operating on the LW at times.

Ahead of the Bayern game last year did a little looking into Buttner in terms of how he was getting on, and seemingly played a lot of reserve games doing well.

But just as easy could be a misquote/translation gaff

Backstreet Moyes

Would have no problem picking up somebody like Gaitan or Shaqiri for a decent fee. But if Sanchez is available for reported €20 million it would be some signing i am impressed every time i see him play.

MagicMarker

I have a funny feeling Evra will be out first choice LB next season.

beakerjoe

I imagine he will be too, with Shaw getting slightly less games than him and getting sub appearances if he signs

Nuts102

Nuts102 wrote: »

Would have no problem picking up somebody like Gaitan or Shaqiri for a decent fee. But if Sanchez is available for reported €20 million it would be some signing i am impressed every time i see him play.

He was pretty bad the season before the one just gone by. Good this season and I would take him in a heartbeat, just not as quickly as when he went to Barca originally, though we didn't need him then of course

Cypher_sounds

I think Gaitan is a great little player, he has heart determination and good close control some of the qualities that we could do with, would be a little concerned about his strength though coz hes not the biggest guy in the world.
However i think he is most effective playing as an attacking midfielder or coming in from the left but does play as a winger a lot.
If we are looking for a decent winger then after Di Maria, Ribery and the likes then Gaitan could certainly be worth a punt as long as Young is gotten rid of.

Manutd_4life

beakerjoe wrote: »

I imagine he will be too, with Shaw getting slightly less games than him and getting sub appearances if he signs

i think it depends on the transfer fee. You can't be spending 25-30m on a player who is just gonna be on the bench for every game. I think evra and shaw will both get a good run of games. it will be good for shaw to have evra who has experience and he can teach him many things during the one year in his contract

uggybear

Did anyone else even bother read thescore.ie comments section throughout last season? I noticed at the end of every united-related story or liveblog ABU's would write nonsense like this "Utd are dying, LOVE it!" that was one of the numourmous ABUs comments made when we lost to spurs on New Years Day. All I can say is thank god LVG is coming in, it shows a statement of intent that our era is NOT over!

beakerjoe

Manutd_4life wrote: »

i think it depends on the transfer fee. You can't be spending 25-30m on a player who is just gonna be on the bench for every game. I think evra and shaw will both get a good run of games. it will be good for shaw to have evra who has experience and he can teach him many things during the one year in his contract

We spent 16 on Zaha and he didnt get a look. It all depends on Shaw himself. thats if he even goes. I agree both will get roughly the same amount of games, with Evra being first choice at the start at least with Shaw his understudy

v3ttel

MagicIRL wrote: »

It's worth a punt if Bébé goes the other way. No way he's worse than Young or Valencia on the wing.

I'd prefer to get the right player rather than wasting money on a punt who may be marginally better than what we have. Bebe can be offloaded elsewhere.

Nuts102 wrote: »

Would have no problem picking up somebody like Gaitan or Shaqiri for a decent fee. But if Sanchez is available for reported €20 million it would be some signing i am impressed every time i see him play.

In terms of semi realistic targets, I'd rate the likes of Shaqiri, Cuadrado more than Gaitan, from what I've seen of him.

Manutd_4life

beakerjoe wrote: »

We spent 16 on Zaha and he didnt get a look. It all depends on Shaw himself. thats if he even goes. I agree both will get roughly the same amount of games, with Evra being first choice at the start at least with Shaw his understudy

Forgot about zaha. looked like a decent player coming from crystal palace, but have heard many things about his attitude and acting up. Is he coming back to united or is he still on loan. Would be really interesting to see how zaha and lvg get along-both have temperaments