post workout headaches

char101

I am hoping someone can give me advice on post work out headaches. I am currently writing this as I lay on my couch accompanied by a head ache. I tend to get these headaches when I return to getting fit...it lasts for about 3 days. Has anyone any idea why? I am conscious about my water intake before during and after working out so I think I can eliminate that. My healthy eating is basically very healthy and I eat a decent breakast (porridge and boiled egg), lunch ( poultry or fish with salad...lettuce ,mixed peppers cherry tomatoes,celery and low fat triangle of cheese occasionally) dinner ( fillet of chicken or a piece of salmon or lean steak mince with wholegrain rice and broccoli plus another veg) I eat green fruit if I ever feel peckish so based in that I think my eating habits can be eliminated. I just would love to know what's going on!

Can you just specify for us how much water you drink

char101

bluewolf wrote: »

Can you just specify for us how much water you drink

3litres the days im working out and 2litres when im on rest days

atilladehun

I have a bit of a back muscle issue that gives me a headache if I do certain exercises. It usually goes if I get a massage and I try to work around the problems so I don't get them.

Could you rule out that kind of head ache? If your putting pressure on your neck and shoulders it could be a cause.

cletus van damme

sometimes if I don't eat enough or low on carbs by accident I can get headaches

but tend to be mid workout and gone by shower time

Alf Veedersane

To be honest, it could be a load of different things that cause it; from what's in what you eat to how hydrated you are to how you workout, etc etc.

If it's something that's happening regularly, go to a doctor. It's usually straightforward but at least you'll know how to prevent it.

generic2012

Try adding salt occasionally. 'Healthy' diets tend to be low in it. Sometimes I use LoSalt, not because it's low in sodium but because it has added potassium. This potassium is in chloride form which is dangerous if over-consumed, so be careful. 3 litres of water is a lot. Water consumption is pushed to ridiculous levels. Too much water will strip your body of minerals (that salt contains) so drink when you're thirsty and no more. It's also a vicious cycle, when you drink more water you excrete more, so slowly wean yourself off excessive intake.

char101

generic2012 wrote: »

Try adding salt occasionally. 'Healthy' diets tend to be low in it. Sometimes I use LoSalt, not because it's low in sodium but because it has added potassium. This potassium is in chloride form which is dangerous if over-consumed, so be careful. 3 litres of water is a lot. Water consumption is pushed to ridiculous levels. Too much water will strip your body of minerals (that salt contains) so drink when you're thirsty and no more. It's also a vicious cycle, when you drink more water you excrete more, so slowly wean yourself off excessive intake.

Thanks for the reply. I never thought of the salt! There is literally no salt in my healthy eating so I must try it. I woke up with the migraine this morning and had no other choice but to take pain killers which I hate doing. I know 3 litres is alot but in this current whether I sweat alot more when working out so I feel the need to replenish.

I wouldn't call 3L all that much particularly on workout days
I mean not low, but not particularly high
Salt's a good idea

generic2012

char101 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. I never thought of the salt! There is literally no salt in my healthy eating so I must try it. I woke up with the migraine this morning and had no other choice but to take pain killers which I hate doing. I know 3 litres is alot but in this current whether I sweat alot more when working out so I feel the need to replenish.

When you sweat you lose electrolytes as well as water, some of which are salts, so when you replace the water you lose by drinking normal water you aren't replacing the lost salts. A common method we were adviced to do with football was a pinch of water, teaspoon of sugar and a splash of orange concentrate for taste. That's basically what lucozade sport is. Switch around the ratios for your goals eg if you're cutting back on sugar/calories don't add as much/any sugar to your water.

I would only use salt in water when you're working out and just put a dash on your food throughout the day. Be careful with salt though, don't add too much to your diet at once as your body is very sensitive to fluctuations in it. Also you might gain scale weight but that is the body holding water, you won't even notice in the mirror so I wouldn't worry about that.

generic2012

bluewolf wrote: »

I wouldn't call 3L all that much particularly on workout days
I mean not low, but not particularly high
Salt's a good idea

Me either, I probably drink 3L in a workout! I can't help it but I'd rather I drank less. If you could keep your electrolyte balance some what constant it wouldn't matter but if your not getting adequate salt in your diet, the more water you drink the more salt you excrete. So I agree with you totally but in this specific context I think it's too high, unless salt is added.

SpaceTime

I get these REALLY badly. Like a throbbing, painful headache. It puts me off working out.

I've tried drinking sports drinks but that only helps a tiny bit.

Boskowski

Ye first thing that came to my mind was dehydration too.
Had the same thing when I was younger (kid & teen). Played football like mad but wasn't really thirsty after. Nearly gave it up due to the headaches and couldn't figure it out. Eventually my parents copped it. No problems ever again. 25 years on and I'm still not terribly thirsty after exercise but I make myself drink enough and have no issues.

SpaceTime

Is it normal to also feel kind of sick too? Sometimes when I workout for a few mins after I'll have a throbbing headache and feel very queasy.

It goes away again though once my pulse returns to normal.

Mostly happens if I try anything aerobically intense like spinning.

Alf Veedersane

bluewolf wrote: »

I wouldn't call 3L all that much particularly on workout days

If I managed 3L of water any day I'd have called the Guinness Book of Records.

char101

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

If I managed 3L of water any day I'd have called the Guinness Book of Records.

Hahahaha ohhh that gave me a well needed laugh this morning ...its easy when you're working out I think, I would easily drink a litre when in the gym

Alf Veedersane

I never bring a bottle to fill at the water cooler and the old water fountain looks like it's primarily been used as a bidet...

I'd go through 2L on a 2 hour jog in the gym I'm a thirsty person!

char101

bluewolf wrote: »

I'd go through 2L on a 2 hour jog in the gym I'm a thirsty person!

Jaysus I wish I could jog for two hours

renofan

@ op do you suffer from headaches/migraines at any other time?

I suffer from bad headaches and awful migraines (runs in my father's family) and I've actually ended up in a & e 3 or 4 times the last few years my migraines get so bad. Anyways I had to stop using the gym or if I'm tired stop doing vigorous work as the doctor says it causes my blood vessels to narrow which brings on bad headaches. Sometimes after I'd been to the gym the headache would get so bad I'd be vomiting with it.

char101

char101 wrote: »

Jaysus I wish I could jog for two hours

Trust me you'd walk it faster...

char101

bluewolf wrote: »

Trust me you'd walk it faster...

Haahhahahahaha.....not long hone from the gym and I feel ok thank god!

Gummy Panda

char101 wrote: »

I am hoping someone can give me advice on post work out headaches. I am currently writing this as I lay on my couch accompanied by a head ache. I tend to get these headaches when I return to getting fit...it lasts for about 3 days. Has anyone any idea why? I am conscious about my water intake before during and after working out so I think I can eliminate that. My healthy eating is basically very healthy and I eat a decent breakast (porridge and boiled egg), lunch ( poultry or fish with salad...lettuce ,mixed peppers cherry tomatoes,celery and low fat triangle of cheese occasionally) dinner ( fillet of chicken or a piece of salmon or lean steak mince with wholegrain rice and broccoli plus another veg) I eat green fruit if I ever feel peckish so based in that I think my eating habits can be eliminated. I just would love to know what's going on!

How is your breathing?

People can get headaches from not breathing correctly during lifts

Mick Murdock

I'm one of those lucky people who rarely gets headaches (maybe once or twice a year).. However, my brother had this problem a while ago and salt water sorted him out.

conzy

They only time I got a post workout headache was when I bent down to pick up a plate and lamped my head of the barbell on the way back up

Boskowski

Not only do you need water after excise but you also lose salts and stuff when you're sweating. I like having a large glass of water after soccer with one of those supplement tablets like Berocca. Much better than the likes of Lucozade which are just glorified sugar water.

In fact an old coach of mine taught us the best thing after a match is a large beer. And it wasn't that he was looking for an excuse to have beer, he was serious. Has all you need to replenish. If you can trust yourself to leave it at one that is...

username123

I used to get post run headaches. It was actually putting me off running. It'd come on a couple of hours after a run and could be a total crippler.

I discovered it was coming my my shoulder/neck muscles. Now after a run I do the following sets and no more headaches:

Clap my arms back and forth across my body 10-15 times.
Bring both arms up from the front and up over the head 10-15 times.
Bring both arms from over the head down 10-15 times (like butterfly crawl).
Hang the head doing neck stretches from side to side.
Bend at the waist with arms out, hands on wall, mid back stretch.

I also do the usual calf, hamstring etc stretches but the above lot are the headache preventers for me.

eh i dunno

I get really bad headaches too but making an effort to breathe properly has lessened the problem. Don't talk to anyone and just concentrate on breathing when doing cardio work

fat to ripped

For me, that tends to indicate I'm either not hydrated sufficiently, or I'm particularly exhausted and haven't managed to get enough calories, or carbs to fuel my run/workout.

char101

fat to ripped wrote: »

For me, that tends to indicate I'm either not hydrated sufficiently, or I'm particularly exhausted and haven't managed to get enough calories, or carbs to fuel my run/workout.

Your username has me intrigued. Were u fat (hate using that word) and then got ripped??

fat to ripped

char101 wrote: »

Your username has me intrigued. Were u fat (hate using that word) and then got ripped??

I was chubby. I'm now less chubby. But not ripped. The name is pretty pointless and more a little semi-amusing motivator for myself which relates to my goal.

Why do you ask?

char101

fat to ripped wrote: »

I was chubby. I'm now less chubby. But not ripped. The name is pretty pointless and more a little semi-amusing motivator for myself which relates to my goal.

Why do you ask?

I was gonna ask how you done it lol

fat to ripped

char101 wrote: »

I was gonna ask how you done it lol

I reduced my calories. That's pretty much it!

I won't take up space here, but I go into detail on what my plan is here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057212674

char101

fat to ripped wrote: »

I reduced my calories. That's pretty much it!

I won't take up space here, but I go into detail on what my plan is here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057212674

The pics that you have, are they of u?

fat to ripped

Yes, they are

char101

fat to ripped wrote: »

Yes, they are

You look great. I am jogging/running at 8km/hr 5 days a week also. PLus I do weights...lower body one day upper body the next. I spin too which I find great.

fat to ripped

char101 wrote: »

You look great. I am jogging/running at 8km/hr 5 days a week also. PLus I do weights...lower body one day upper body the next. I spin too which I find great.

Thank you! Good job - sounds like you have a great regime in place. I've heard spinning is great, but I've always been too much of a wimp to try it!

char101

fat to ripped wrote: »

Thank you! Good job - sounds like you have a great regime in place. I've heard spinning is great, but I've always been too much of a wimp to try it!

I lost weight last yr and then I stopped the gym etc and put back in weight so over the past week I started to eat right and train. Ive lost 7lbs in the week and I know that's water muscle and a little fat but im just wondering did you have to tweak your workout as you lost bf % ?

fat to ripped

char101 wrote: »

I lost weight last yr and then I stopped the gym etc and put back in weight so over the past week I started to eat right and train. Ive lost 7lbs in the week and I know that's water muscle and a little fat but im just wondering did you have to tweak your workout as you lost bf % ?

Honestly, I did, as I found I had slightly less energy. But I found condensing my workout has actually helped in the long run. As I run a lot I found that my restrictions on carb intake had a negative impact in my performance. I upped my carbs and calories when I felt I needed a boost and I found everything was helped by doing so.

char101

fat to ripped wrote: »

Honestly, I did, as I found I had slightly less energy. But I found condensing my workout has actually helped in the long run. As I run a lot I found that my restrictions on carb intake had a negative impact in my performance. I upped my carbs and calories when I felt I needed a boost and I found everything was helped by doing so.

Yes the dreaded carbs. Im so unsure of carbs..at the mo im on low enough carbs im just wondering when I can up them because my cravings get so intense at times

fat to ripped

char101 wrote: »

Yes the dreaded carbs. Im so unsure of carbs..at the mo im on low enough carbs im just wondering when I can up them because my cravings get so intense at times

Personally, all I tracked is calories. I allowed those calories to come from anywhere, whole making sure to keep protein up. It worked for me and helped me get the lowest body fat I have ever had.

char101

fat to ripped wrote: »

Personally, all I tracked is calories. I allowed those calories to come from anywhere, whole making sure to keep protein up. It worked for me and helped me get the lowest body fat I have ever had.

Great. That's good to know so thank you!! Fair play to you!

generic2012

fat to ripped wrote: »

Personally, all I tracked is calories. I allowed those calories to come from anywhere, whole making sure to keep protein up. It worked for me and helped me get the lowest body fat I have ever had.

By far the easiest way, a pity more people wouldn't do it or believe it's that easy!

MrStuffins

Lads, just a small thing here regarding water...........

I've gotten into the habit of drinking a lot of water. I'll drink 2L of water before lunch at work. I'll then have 500ml at lunch and probably another 1 - 1.5L after lunch before I go home. On training days I might have another 2 - 3L in the eveining, Is this too much?

I mean, even on days i've drank, say, 3.5L in work, when I get to training i'm still rather thirsty and aware of the fact that I have to keep hydrated because i'm going to sweat a lot (I do BJJ and it's alwys ridiculously hot).

Blacktie.

MrStuffins wrote: »

Lads, just a small thing here regarding water...........

I've gotten into the habit of drinking a lot of water. I'll drink 2L of water before lunch at work. I'll then have 500ml at lunch and probably another 1 - 1.5L after lunch before I go home. On training days I might have another 2 - 3L in the eveining, Is this too much?

I mean, even on days i've drank, say, 3.5L in work, when I get to training i'm still rather thirsty and aware of the fact that I have to keep hydrated because i'm going to sweat a lot (I do BJJ and it's alwys ridiculously hot).

Isn't constant thirst a sign of diabetes? Maybe you should get that checked out especially considering how much water you're knocking back and still feeling thirsty.

generic2012

MrStuffins wrote: »

Lads, just a small thing here regarding water...........

I've gotten into the habit of drinking a lot of water. I'll drink 2L of water before lunch at work. I'll then have 500ml at lunch and probably another 1 - 1.5L after lunch before I go home. On training days I might have another 2 - 3L in the eveining, Is this too much?

I mean, even on days i've drank, say, 3.5L in work, when I get to training i'm still rather thirsty and aware of the fact that I have to keep hydrated because i'm going to sweat a lot (I do BJJ and it's alwys ridiculously hot).

When you drink water more you excrete more water and your body adjusts to the increased amounts of water it recieves. Just slowly wean your self off it a bit. People tend to assume that because being dehydrated is bad drinking loads of water is good. Just remember that being dehydrated is bad, staying hydrated is good but anything over that is overkill with potential negatives.

And here I thought I drank a lot of water
Do you have enough salt?
Excessive thirst is a sign of diabetes not that you necessarily have it or anything but no harm getting checked out

MrStuffins

Cheers for the replies

I'm not constantly thirsty per se. I'll walk to work in the morning and be thirsty. After that I could take it or leave it with regards to water but I drink it because I want to stay hydrated.

The thirst before training would be from cycling there etc (I think).

The only times i'll feel actually thirsty would be in the morning (after a one hour walk) and right before training.

Not sure how much salt I should have in a day but I DO lightly salt my food when i'm having dinner because i'm aware of the fact that i'm drinking a lot of water.