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****Leaving Certificate Chemistry [All Levels] Before and After Discussion****

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    To find if the bonds are polar, electronegativity all the way

    But the molecule as a whole can be non polar if the poles centre of gravity cancel

    eg with Boron triflouride

    The B - F bonds will be polar because there's a large electronegativity difference, but the BF3 molecule is non polar because the poles have a central gravity. I can't explain it well but hopefully this kinda clears it up

    https://figures.boundless.com/18492/full/polarity-boron-trifluoride.png


    Ohhh I think our teacher was talking about the polarity of the molecule when she mentioned the shapes.

    So to check if bonds are polar = electronegativity difference
    To check if molecule is polar = shape

    Right it makes sense now :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    Are people studying ethanal and ethanoic acid just in case they come up even though they shouldn't? :P I'm half paranoid that I should now :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    Maybe have a look at the 2005 and 2007 Q2's.
    If they come up it will be very similar if not the same as them :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 CL987


    Heaney is coming up in the experiments , so I hear anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭iWin1010


    CL987 wrote: »
    Heaney is coming up in the experiments , so I hear anyway

    I'd nearly have a better chance of passing this if he did...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭AtomicKoala


    CL987 wrote: »
    Heaney is coming up in the experiments , so I hear anyway

    Why are “the old axles and iron hoops rusting"? What is the formula for the compound produced “outside"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    Excited lads? :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭robman60


    Thanks for the tips last night peeps, hopefully the few hours I've done will pay off.

    To be honest, actually doing some study has only shown me all I don't know but sure I'll be in the pub by 5:05 this evening so happy days!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    robman60 wrote: »
    Thanks for the tips last night peeps, hopefully the few hours I've done will pay off.

    To be honest, actually doing some study has only shown me all I don't know but sure I'll be in the pub by 5:05 this evening so happy days!

    Lucky you... :mad:

    Good luck robman, I'm in the same boat as you :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Daniel2590


    Well that went a hell of a lot better than I thought!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Msci


    Daniel2590 wrote: »
    Well that went a hell of a lot better than I thought!

    What expts came up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Daniel2590


    Msci wrote: »
    What expts came up?

    The two I did were preparation of soap and the effect of temperature on reaction rate, can't remember the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭TooMuchStudy


    Daniel2590 wrote: »
    The two I did were preparation of soap and the effect of temperature on reaction rate, can't remember the other.

    Other one was water crystallization


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    That was the nicest, most student friendly HL chemistry paper in a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭ave123


    may i just say....THAT CHEMISTRY PAPER WAS MARVELLOUS!....didnt do a tap of study and was still able to answer most of the questions...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    I didn't do Q5 because the last few parts didn't look too nice.
    I also Couldn't do the pH calculation but Q10 and 11 were nice so they made up for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭WoolyAbyss


    Did anyone else get 2198? for the heat of combustion?

    EDIT -2198


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    WoolyAbyss wrote: »
    Did anyone else get 2198? for the heat of combustion?

    can't remember but isn't it negative?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭TooMuchStudy


    WoolyAbyss wrote: »
    Did anyone else get 2198? for the heat of combustion?

    i got -5000 and something, can't remember exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    WoolyAbyss wrote: »
    Did anyone else get 2198? for the heat of combustion?

    EDIT -2198

    Yep just checked I got that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭WoolyAbyss


    can't remember but isn't it negative?
    ya it was -2198 sorry just forgot it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭chatterboxxx95


    WoolyAbyss wrote: »
    Did anyone else get 2198? for the heat of combustion?

    EDIT -2198

    Yup I think so :pac: can't remember and can't be arsed looking in my paper which is about 2 metres away from me :rolleyes:

    Thought it was a grand paper overall, didn't like the question on pH tho :/ did an extra question tho so hopefully all will go well :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭WoolyAbyss


    Yup I think so :pac: can't remember and can't be arsed looking in my paper which is about 2 metres away from me :rolleyes:

    Thought it was a grand paper overall, didn't like the question on pH tho :/ did an extra question tho so hopefully all will go well :)
    Same I got about halfway through the pH question couldn't do the calculation so I just wen't onto the next question.I think I did nine excluding the pH one so I'm pretty happy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Huell


    Did anyone get that ph question out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    WoolyAbyss wrote: »
    Same I got about halfway through the pH question couldn't do the calculation so I just wen't onto the next question.I think I did nine excluding the pH one so I'm pretty happy.

    Yeh me too haha wasted time going halfway then realised I had no clue what was going on. It was a pitty because all the other parts were nice!
    Yeh I did 9 excluding that too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭AtomicKoala


    WoolyAbyss wrote: »
    ya it was -2198 sorry just forgot it.

    I got ΔH = -2877.3 kJ mol^-1, did anyone else?

    EDIT: I checked Wikipedia. I think your value is for propane:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butane_(data_page)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propane_(data_page)

    Wikipedia says it -2877.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭little sis...


    I got ΔH = -2877.3 kJ mol^-1, did anyone else?

    I re-did it just now and got -2198....unless I'm doing something wrong?:rolleyes:

    It ends up nice so that you don't have any decimals I believe :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Wanderer41


    I got ΔH = -2877.3 kJ mol^-1, did anyone else?
    No, you are correct


    The total charge on the S2O3 2- is a -2 charge

    So that's 3(-2) = -6 for the oxygen and that means +4 charge overall for the two sulphurs which means they have a +2 charge each on the LHS


    On the RHS S4O6 has a 2- charge on it

    So starting with oxygen again

    6 oxygens each have a 2- charge = -12 in total
    So as there is an overall charge of -2 that means the four sulphurs have +10 charge in total
    each of the four sulphurs have a +2.5 charge


    So sulphur has a change from +2 to +2.5 which is 0.5 of an election

    As an increase in oxidation number is oxidation this would indicate a loss of half an electron (in theory anyway)

    As you probably worked out Iodine went from a 0 charge to -1 which was reduction and a gain of 1 electron

    So the sulphurs need to lose one electron to make the loss/gain of electrons balanced
    To do this you need to double the number of sulphurs on the LHS of the equation



    So you need to put a 2 in front of S2O3 to balance the redox part of it and then a 2 in front of I- to make the whole thing balance.

    Thank you so much for explaining, sorry for not replying sooner! I ended up not answering the oxidation question but it helped me before hand so thank you :)


    And I got -2877.33 as well, Atomic Koala.. hope we're right! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭accountname


    Grand paper, did all but one question :P
    I got ΔH = -2877.3 kJ mol^-1, did anyone else?

    Yep, did it out twice and got that both times!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    i got -5000 and something, can't remember exactly

    You didn't divide by 2 probably :p

    That was so nice, think I got a B1/A2 :D


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