No Man's Sky

CiDeRmAn

Who needs to find a planet called "Brians Knob 16#"

SolvableKnave

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Who needs to find a planet called "Brians Knob 16#"

Me. I'm fat and haven't seen mine in a while

CiDeRmAn

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Me. I'm fat and haven't seen mine in a while

You need to get yourself one of these then

Xenji

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Who needs to find a planet called "Brians Knob 16#"

When they do, they will have to name a new planet "New Brians Knob 16#"

SolvableKnave

How ****ing moronic is this?

No Man's Sky legal dispute

Generic Dreadhead

That is not the issue here Solvable, the games title is blatantly misogynist, sexist and discriminatory :mad:.

tee-hee-hee

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

That is not the issue here Solvable, the games title is blatantly misogynist, sexist and discriminatory :mad:.

tee-hee-hee

"To boldly go, where no person has gone before".

Darn tootin'.

Niska

SolvableKnave wrote: »

How ****ing moronic is this?

No Man's Sky legal dispute

Guess the first two names they tried were "No man's edge" and "No man's saga"...

Taylor365

Niska wrote: »

Guess the first two names they tried were "No man's edge" and "No man's saga"...

Can't wait for "No Man's Virgin"

Shiminay

I think they tried "No Man's Scrolls" too...

Star Lord

No Man Reacts?

Call Me Jimmy

No Man's Plan

SolvableKnave

No Man's An Island

Zillah

Are Sky seriously suing anyone that uses the word sky as part of any product or service? Don't use a single generic fucking noun if you want exclusive use of it you scumbags.

SolvableKnave

Zillah wrote: »

Are Sky seriously suing anyone that uses the word sky as part of any product or service? Don't use a single generic fucking noun if you want exclusive use of it you scumbags.

From the article, yes. And Hello Games weren't the only ones either. It all hinges on the s in sky. Lower case sky, we sue your ass. Upper case Sky, ah who cares. Now, the really weird part of the whole article:

"We finally settled with Sky (they own the word sky). We can call our game No Man's Sky," he tweeted.

Hello Games has not revealed whether it paid Sky to settle the lawsuit.

Sky (The Company) own the word sky (lower case) but not Sky (upper case)

Captain Chaos

Zillah wrote: »

Are Sky seriously suing anyone that uses the word sky as part of any product or service? Don't use a single generic fucking noun if you want exclusive use of it you scumbags.

Yeah they did it to Microsoft, their Onedrive service was called Skydrive.

Shiminay

It's also the nature of copyright law that they *HAVE* to go for anyone who uses it or risk losing their copyright entirely as the next person they fight can say "well you never sued those guys, they're using your name too." I'd say Sky no more wanted to do this than Hello Games did, but that's the fked up nature of these laws.

gizmo

They also went after them when MS tried to register a trademark for Skype in the EU, claiming that its name and logo is too similar to Sky's own.

Pretty sure that's well into litigious territory rather than just the required protection of ones trademark, no?

Zillah

Shiminay wrote: »

It's also the nature of copyright law that they *HAVE* to go for anyone who uses it or risk losing their copyright entirely as the next person they fight can say "well you never sued those guys, they're using your name too." I'd say Sky no more wanted to do this than Hello Games did, but that's the fked up nature of these laws.

Nothing stopping them saying "Dear Hello Games, please find enclosed an agreement between us where we license you to use the word "sky" in the title of your upcoming game for the fee of $1. Please sign and return."

That way the next sky-user can't show they didn't pursue it because it was done on license.

I'm not a lawyer but it seems reasonable.

I do understand the need to protect your trademarks lest you lose them, but honestly, there should be a law blocking people from trademarking generic nouns. The sky is a big thing and belongs to everyone. Sky Broadcasting or Sky TV or Sky Digital Services - something more specific like that, sure, but the word sky from the English language? Get the fudge out. I'm going to start a company called ground.

Shiminay

You're not wrong at all Zillah, you'd think people could be grown ups about it and simply come to an agreement where these things didn't waste so much money, but I think you'll find that if the legal profession sniffs a pound to be made, then they'll jump all over it and give the sorts of advice to their clients that only make themselves rich. Never mistake the law in a capitalist society for being fair - it can't be when you have to pay for it. It is never on the side of "the people," only the people paying the bills.

Thargor

I did always think Skype was a strange one tbh, it did seem a bit of a rip-off of Skys IP at the time, Im fairly techie and remember assuming it was a Sky property for a long time when it was taking off. No Mans Sky getting sued is a joke though.

Taylor365

Well, the legals get paid and sky comes off of this looking like utter $hite.

Win-win for all.

Otacon

No Man's Sky has gone gold.

Thargor

Im predicting a boring flop due to chronic repetitiveness, I just dont see how they can avoid it. Hope Im wrong though.

Doodleking

No Man's Sky def should go VR

Captain Chaos

Doodleking wrote: »

No Man's Sky def should go VR

No point unless they patch it in later and do a NEO version. PSVR cannot do "proper" games on the PS4 as the console is not powerful enough.

You need the hardware to catch up first, consoles just aren't there yet to do AAA games in VR.

Maximus Alexander

Yeah but PCs exist...

saneman

Captain Chaos wrote: »

No point unless they patch it in later and do a NEO version. PSVR cannot do "proper" games on the PS4 as the console is not powerful enough.

You need the hardware to catch up first, consoles just aren't there yet to do AAA games in VR.

Sean Murray in a recent interview: "I thing it (VR) would be a really good fit for No Man's Sky...(but) we're a super small team I think everyone would want us just focused on the game and getting it out...". Given Sony's stake in the game and their future VR plans NMS must feature as part of that.

Certainly what you've said is true for the current PS4 hardware but I wouldn't be surprised to see some form of VR mod/hack for the PC version sometime after release as I think the pace of the game would suit VR really well, it's by no means a "twitchy" first person experience.

Thargor wrote: »

Im predicting a boring flop due to chronic repetitiveness, I just dont see how they can avoid it. Hope Im wrong though.

I think tedium will definitely play it's part in many players moving on before the "end game" (reach centre of galaxy) simply because of it's immense scale, but after how long? After exploring 10 systems, 100, 1000? And would this constitute a flop?

I imagine it'll be a game I'll purchase but my expectations are suitably curtailed and I think I've a clear sense of what it'll offer (and what it won't).

Zillah

saneman wrote: »

I imagine it'll be a game I'll purchase but my expectations are suitably curtailed and I think I've a clear sense of what it'll offer (and what it won't).

This is exactly where I am. I think there will be lots of disappointed people but they'll be the ones who let their imaginations run away with them.


As for VR: NMS announced a delay of several months around the time Vives and Rifts started shipping in large numbers. I'd make a big wager that this was to enable VR support.

GUI might be a concern, though. Retrofitting non-VR games for VR is bloody difficult. I tried playing The Solus Project just recently and it was a debacle. Interface was horrible, I didn't last more than a couple of minutes. I'll give it a go again, but after playing made-for-VR games it was really weird going back to point-and-click sort of interfaces, rather than just be able to reach out and grab stuff.

Beefy78

Thargor wrote: »

Im predicting a boring flop due to chronic repetitiveness, I just dont see how they can avoid it. Hope Im wrong though.

I think it will be about setting expectations. It'll be repetitive in the way that Fifa is repetitive. If you don't like playing a couple of hundred hours of football games you don't buy Fifa. If you don't like putting a couple of hundred hours into exploring the vast emptiness of space you don't buy No Man's Sky.

There's no complex narrative involved. I applaud the makers of this for trying something different.