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No Man's Sky
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10-06-2014 3:14am#1http://nomanssky.com/Hello Games wrote:ABOUT
No Man’s Sky is a game about exploration and survival in an infinite procedurally generated universe.
A TRULY OPEN UNIVERSE
Whether a distant mountain or a planet hanging low on the horizon, you can go there. You can fly seamlessly from the surface of a planet to another, and every star in the sky is a sun that you can visit.
Where you’ll go and how fast you’ll make your way through this universe is up to you. It’s yours for the taking.
EXPLORATION IS SEEING THINGS NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN BEFORE
Explore uncharted solar systems and catalogue unique new forms of life. Every planet’s landscape is different from the next, and populated by species never before encountered.
Find ancient artefacts that could reveal the secrets behind the universe.
Choose whether to share your discoveries with other players. You won’t see them, but they’re exploring the same universe in parallel; perhaps you’ll make your mark on their worlds as well as your own.
SURVIVE ON A DANGEROUS FRONTIER
Every solar system, planet, ocean and cave is filled with danger, and you are vulnerable.
Your ship and suit are fragile, and every encounter can test your skills to the limit. From dogfighting in space to firstperson combat on a planet’s surface, you will face foes ready to overwhelm you.
And one mistake could see you lose everything. In No Man’s Sky, every victory and every defeat is permanent.
BUILD FOR AN EPIC JOURNEY
The voyage that stands before you cannot be taken lightly. You’ll need to prepare.
Collect precious resources on the surfaces of planets and trade them for the ships, suits and equipment that will take you to your destiny in the stars.
This title/IP/Idea has pinged my radar a few times over the years. Like I said in the E3 megathread I first heard about the concept back in 2007 when I was in IT Carlow Games Development. Someone elsewhere (these guys?) were developing some hot-**** procedural generation techniques. For planets.
Since the announcement I'm not 100% sure it was Hello Games, or these guys http://elliptic-games.com/ as there are clearly multiple devs out there with the same concept I'm not gonna speculate without more information. What we do know is Hello Games is actually UK based http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_Games though Sean Murray himself is Irish. So some of the information in the E3 thread may be inaccurate. The other title Rodinia looks a lot more like what I saw as a concept back in the 2000s though.
What is known though is this game follows a lot of the same concepts that I've heard about for a few years now: the world is infinite and procedurally generated, from the flora and fauna to the planets and asteroid fields. As we heard at E3 every player starts on their own planet. Yikes. This has the makings of an epic space sim. As players explore uncharted space, the servers run the procedural generation and create new anomalies and planets.
Can't imagine this will be a Playstation Exclusive (besides, Sony got a huge chubby boner from proclaiming anything they possibly could as being exclusive at that conference and they didn't for this) so expect it to show up on Xbox and PC as well. Will probably be the first space sim I look into in years.
Don't be a cost-prohibitive subscription base. Oh god.
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You know as a kid, that dream game that you always wished would be made, where you can everywhere, do anything, go into orbit, de-orbit.
I've always dreamed of playing a game where you could walk around new worlds, get on a ship and simply leave the planet, fly through space and visit another planet.
CHRIST IT'S HERE!
4 PEOPLE HAVING BEING WORKING ON THIS. 4.
funny what 4 people can do, makes me laugh at Ubi with their 500+ development teams
The vision for this game is so impressive and grand that I can't really believe they'll pull it off until I actually play it. I wish them all the luck in the world.
I hope the Mass Effect team wake up screaming :P
It's literally pure algorithms. Pure algos, you guys. If they've invested development where they should have (i.e., really impressive math) then it's gonna be mind blowing. If it's the same old procedural tricks we've seen before then it will just be HD minecraft with planetary travel.0 -
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http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/x8pp1o/no-man-s-sky-vgx-2013--sean-murray-interview
Sean Murray in the above interview (seems like such a cool,humble and unaware of it guy)
Paraphrasing:
"When you are in space you can see all the stars in the black, points of light, well you go can travel all the way into them, and around every one of their stars are dozens planets which you can land on and explore/traverse"
I want to give the guys money simply to praise for them for their brass balls and NASA moonshot like ambition.
I've being jaded by games in the last 5 years or so, I haven't being this wowed by something since... 2003-2004? Final Fantasy VII?. More sweet that this has literally come out of nowhere, I hope it shames other developers.
the ability to land on planets like that and then take off back into space is a mechanic i've been dreaming of. Take note ubisoft and EA. this is next-gen.
I've being incredibly meh my most of my series Metal Gear, Final Fantasy in recent years, all variations or genre types that have polished their 3d graphics to the nth but play all most the same as they ever did.
"You're not wandering passively or ambiently, planets have their own ecosystem and you're not always necessarily on top"0 -
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Oddly enough it reminds me of one my favourite forgotten gems – Starfighter 3000 on the 3D0. Obviously looks a hell of a lot better but the transition between skimming along the bottom of a planet in your spaceship and taking off in space is still there.0 -
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It looks like game of the show for me so far
I sincerely hope it gets Rift support, that'd make me go and get a Rift
Sony mentioned their VR project Morpheus at the show. The demo seemed to fully expect the first person perspective in a bobbing and weaving fashion. I fully anticipate VR support and Occulus on PC0 -
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Adamantium wrote: »
You know as a kid, that dream game that you always wished would be made, where you can everywhere, do anything, go into orbit, de-orbit.
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Ha, the shot of the desert planet & its sandworms immediately made me think 'muad'dib'
I'd be the same as Adamantium, a game similar to what this appears to be has been a dream of mine since a kid; the ability to explore the universe and its countless planets, able to touch down on the surface without hindrance or limitation. It's funny how it has taken this long for a game to appear with (apparently) real-time surface to orbit transitions.
I would also share a little reservation however. The problem about promising a whole universe to play in is just that - it's a whole universe of content to supply. Factor in the procedural generation and I can't help but feel a little wary that without careful development, the experience might quickly repeat itself. The fact it's being made by 4 people is in itself utterly amazing and praiseworthy but also suggests they won't have the capacity to keep things too varied. I do love the art style though and makes a refreshing change from the kind of dull, metallic aesthetic of the likes of Star Citizen.
The trailer looks amazing but my cynicism suggests I'd quickly see the same wildlife on various planets, albeit with different colouring or whatever. Certainly in my own experience the problem I've found with a sprawling, limitless world is that it can quickly get boring when you start spotting the engine's limits. Starbound springs to mind here: I loved the game - and the idea of the game - at first but quickly got tired by the repetition. Sometimes borders are a good thing.
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That reminds me perhaps this or another similar title had the idea that players would continue exploring the world and eventually trigger "World Events" like encountering alien menaces or forerunner world.Ha, the shot of the desert planet & its sandworms immediately made me think 'muad'dib'
I'd be the same as Adamantium, a game similar to what this appears to be has been a dream of mine since a kid; the ability to explore the universe and its countless planets, able to touch down on the surface without hindrance or limitation. It's funny how it has taken this long for a game to appear with (apparently) real-time surface to orbit transitions.
I would also share a little reservation however. The problem about promising a whole universe to play in is just that - it's a whole universe of content to supply. Factor in the procedural generation and I can't help but feel a little wary that without careful development, the experience might quickly repeat itself. The fact it's being made by 4 people is in itself utterly amazing and praiseworthy but also suggests they won't have the capacity to keep things too varied. I do love the art style though and makes a refreshing change from the kind of dull, metallic aesthetic of the likes of Star Citizen.
The trailer looks amazing but my cynicism suggests I'd quickly see the same wildlife on various planets, albeit with different colouring or whatever. Certainly in my own experience the problem I've found with a sprawling, limitless world is that it can quickly get boring when you start spotting the engine's limits. Starbound springs to mind here: I loved the game - and the idea of the game - at first but quickly got tired by the repetition. Sometimes borders are a good thing.
Still though, cautiously excited all the same
The lovely thing is the Procedural generation can serve an epic backbone to the game while you install whatever content you like.0 -
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Spore started off promising.
End product didn't turn out as everyone had hoped. Zero depth.
Indeed. Some wariness is prudent here. While I've been impressed like everyone else and I do love space games.....what have we actually seen? What is there to actually do in this world?
In the footage they've released we have seen a guy walking around, get into a ship and fly into space. Several times.
We've also seen that asteroid getting shot into debris several times. That's cool and all, but I'd hope there is more to the game than that and they seem quite enamoured with that "trick".
I'm not getting down on it, but I think people need to be cautious and keep their expectations in check. You brought up Spore and that is a perfect example. Go back and watch some early demo's of that game. It looked incredible. The scope was just mind boggling. What we got in the end was very, very shallow.....and that was a team much bigger and better funded than this one.0 -
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I would advise people check out the Giantbomb day one wrap up. They have the main guy, who is Irish, talking quite a bit about what the plans are and what they hope to achieve gameplay wise.
I know giantbombs humour is not everyones cup of tea, still a good watch as they also have Palmer Lucky from Occulus on for the same segment
Skip to the 30 minute mark of this video which is where it starts
http://www.twitch.tv/giantbomb/b/537348828
- Sean mentions when he first worked on the original Burnout, that team was only 10 people, and that was considered a large team for its day. Also that for core development Criterion still runs 10 man teams.
- Everyone at panel as ****faced as everyone else that small team steals as much attention as 500-man battallion sized devs running around modeling faces for french peasants.**
- No, I have never played Assassins Creed. I'm sure its fun.
- He details the AI-run servers that actually operate "players" that travel to planets in the game environment and capture animated .gifs to survey the generated world. That way the team can determine "The algorithm generates too many blue skies," etc.
- The fact that the team from No Man's Sky was sitting across the panel from the Oculus Rift guy, should make you excited. You know they talked. GiantBomb guy at 1:03:30 implies it too Sean mentions he actually received an Oculus Dev kit at one stage and tinkered: he put a gaming laptop in his backpack and ran around the office playing games, and posting vines about it. Oculus told him to stop (aka cease and desist) because it looked silly and dangerous. lol. "It's a good thing they sent that email because I was just about to tweet: 'If you die in Oculus you die in real life.'"
- Hello Games is so Indie they couldn't obtain the backstage pass at E3 to show off their game they did it from a hotel room instead.
- Kirby: go to 58:00 in the video. Your question is posed directly, then answered. They are still vague about the combat impetus/back story but exploration mechanics are all in the works etc. they aren't going to prescribe how to play though.
- I want to be an agreissive galactic botanist
- Oculus: "I play GTA V and when players see each other they automatically shoot each other." Interested to see how players react in NMS when death has real consequences (ships, currency, etc)
- Oculus re: Morpheus: "Having someone else in the 'space' is exciting because it means you actually are on to something, instead of saying 'this is the next big thing!' when you're the only one doing it, it just felt strange" anticipates more people entering VR and getting it to catch on.
*paraphrasing heavily
**Yesterday, GamesIndustry International published an interview with Ubisoft Reflections' managing director Pauline Jacquey, whose studio is contributing to Watch Dogs' development. The big takeaway from the interview, as NeoGAF quickly picked up on, is the casual discussion of team sizes for modern AAA games.
According to her, a typical open world action game from Ubisoft can require between 400 and 600 people, and next-generation development may push this ceiling even higher for companies across the board. Ubisoft Reflections, which represents roughly one-third of the entire Watch Dogs team, currently has 90 people on the project. Do the math and you get 270 people, and that number is still growing.
http://www.destructoid.com/aaa-game-development-teams-are-too-damn-big-247366.phtml0 -
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