Why cant students get the dole ?

Uepped

why cant students aged 18 and over get the dole during the school/college summer holidays ?

desultory

Uepped wrote: »

why cant students aged 18 and over get the dole during the school/college summer holidays ?

Cos they're going back to college and aren't in a position to be looking for jobs.

rawn

Cos it's Jobseekers Allowance i.e it is available for people who are actively seeking work, whereas students who are returning to school/college are not. Basically they'd be funding every students summer-long booze sesh.

myshirt

Because you touch yourself at night

Henlars67

As far as I know they can if they have previously worked at some stage.

Open to correction on that, but pretty sure a friend of mine claimed it last summer, though she'd have built up quite a few stamps doing part time and summer work in previous years.

desultory

myshirt wrote: »

Because you touch yourself at night

2004 called, they want their joke back

Uepped

rawn wrote: »

Cos it's Jobseekers Allowance i.e it is available for people who are actively seeking work, whereas students who are returning to school/college are not. Basically they'd be funding every stude nts summer-long booze sesh.

Every student i know looks for work in the summer.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

desultory wrote: »

2004 called, they want their joke back

That's what she said.

Frosty McSnowballs

desultory wrote: »

2004 called, they want their joke back

1999 paged you, they want their retort back,

Turtwig

Uepped wrote: »

why cant students aged 18 and over get the dole during the school/college summer holidays ?

Because they quite clearly aren't looking for full-time employment.

If they're financially fcked they can talk to their community welfare officer for supplementary funds.

desultory

Uepped wrote: »

Every student i know looks for work in the summer.

Then goes back to college. It's not the same thing whatsoever. Should they get the dole during college Cos they can't find weekend work aswell?

TimeToShine

Henlars67 wrote: »

As far as I know they can if they have previously worked at some stage.

Open to correction on that, but pretty sure a friend of mine claimed it last summer, though she'd have built up quite a few stamps doing part time and summer work in previous years.

No they can't, your friend most likely was collecting someone else's money (which happens quite a bit) or lied. It's most likely the former.

everdead.ie

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

1999 paged you, they want their retort back,

1990 wrote to you put everything on Ireland to beat Romania on Penalties

desultory

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

1999 paged you, they want their retort back,

Apologies for not finding the same things as funny as you did. I see it offends you.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Uepped wrote: »

Every student i know looks for work in the summer.

Oh come off it. That's summer work. Job seekers is for people looking for full time work over hopefully a more sustained period than 3 months.

kneemos

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

1999 paged you, they want their retort back,

2009 e-mailed,they want ahh.....something.

josealdo

desultory wrote: »

Then goes back to college. It's not the same thing whatsoever. Should they get the dole during college Cos they can't find weekend work aswell?[/quote


travellers get dole and will never work .

at least students will get work and pay taxes .

all travelkers do is rob and sponge

Mod: Banned

rawn

kneemos wrote: »

2009 e-mailed,they want ahh.....something.

An MSN?

rawn

figs666 wrote: »

desultory wrote: »

Then goes back to college. It's not the same thing whatsoever. Should they get the dole during college Cos they can't find weekend work aswell?[/quote


travellers get dole and will never work .

at least students will get work and pay taxes .

all travelkers do is rob and sponge

Did you interview all of them?

desultory

figs666 wrote: »

travellers get dole and will never work .

at least students will get work and pay taxes .

all travelkers do is rob and sponge

Take your traveller hate to another thread ya student sponger.

Wabbit Ears

Students are doing something productive with their lives, the dole is not aimed at that section of society.

josealdo

everdead.ie wrote: »

1990 wrote to you put everything on Ireland to beat Romania on Penalties

2014 sent roma gypsies to mug you

Frosty McSnowballs

desultory wrote: »

Apologies for not finding the same things as funny as you did. I see it offends you.

Apology not accepted.

You were not funny either. 3/10 F+, must try harder.

Where's the beef?

desultory

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Apology not accepted.

You were not funny either. 3/10 F+, must try harder.

Where's the beef?

Good. I'm not really sorry.

Frosty McSnowballs

desultory wrote: »

Good. I'm not really sorry.

F-

My da will beat your da!

GarIT

rawn wrote: »

Basically they'd be funding every students summer-long booze sesh.

How are students different from anyone else in this regard? Most dole money is spent on drink anyway, students aren't unique.

Students can't draw the dole as being in a full time college course is considered the same as being in full time employment in this country.

desultory

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

F-

My da will beat your da!

This isn't /b/ go away with your ratings

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

F-

My da will beat your da!

Naked?

whats_my_name

Uepped wrote: »

Every student i know looks for work in the summer.

I'm finding it extremely difficult to get any summer work, any vacancies that come up are all internships, jobs that would of originally been filled by students such as waitresses, kitchen porter etc.

rawn

GarIT wrote: »

How are students different from anyone else in this regard?

Students can't draw the dole as being in a full time college course is considered the same as being in full time employment in this country.

Again, cos the dole is jobseekers. The SUSI grant is there for students.

suicide_circus

If I had had a free 150 euro a week when I was 18 I would have ended up dead in a ditch pretty fast.

Frosty McSnowballs

desultory wrote: »

This isn't /b/ go away with your ratings

What's a /b/? Speakey the Engly please. I don't speak nerd. G+

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Naked?

Is there any other kind?

Grab All Association

Go to college as a mature student when you turn 23 and you can claim btea and also do some part time work too.

GarIT

rawn wrote: »

Again, cos the dole is jobseekers. The SUSI grant is there for students.

Did you think I am disagreeing with you?

It's strange that in all my life I've never met a person on jobseekers allowance/benefit for more than a month that was seeking a job.

JerCotter7

If they have been on the dole for mine months before they go to college they can. You have to change it to a bank to education allowance then but there is only a few differences.

PizzamanIRL

figs666 wrote: »

2014 sent roma gypsies to mug you

Your mother rang. She said she'll be home in the morning and have the kettle on for her.

Un Croissant

Chris___ wrote: »

Go to college as a mature student when you turn 23 and you can claim btea and also do some part time work too.

Or take the year off after the leaving. Claim the dole for the nine month period required to get BTEA. That's how it used to be anyway.

Renegade Mechanic

Wait... Are students looking for free piss-up money or are we organising some kind of naked daddy wrestling match?

Grab All Association

Un Croissant wrote: »

Or take the year off after the leaving. Claim the dole for the nine month period required to get BTEA. That's how it used to be anyway.

What about LC points etc do they carry over until the next year?

Henlars67

Chris___ wrote: »

What about LC points etc do they carry over until the next year?

Do you not have to be over 23 to qualify for BTEA?

ToddyDoody

Fu*k 'em. That's why.

Un Croissant

Henlars67 wrote: »

Do you not have to be over 23 to qualify for BTEA?

Nope just nine months on a relevant social welfare payment

Un Croissant

Chris___ wrote: »

What about LC points etc do they carry over until the next year?

Yep. That's if you feel like being of questionable morals

bennyl10

rawn wrote: »

Again, cos the dole is jobseekers. The SUSI grant is there for students.

The grant can not be compared to Dole.
Live on 30 a month, which is what Sushi pay a lot of students.

Anita Blow

Uepped wrote: »

why cant students aged 18 and over get the dole during the school/college summer holidays ?

The dole isn't there to give people free money for the sake of it. It's there as a temporary income until people who are actually available for full-time employment find work- hence the name "Jobseeker's Allowance". College students are not available for full-time work.

Grab All Association

Un Croissant wrote: »

Nope just nine months on a relevant social welfare payment

In 2009/10

To qualify for the Back to Education Allowance, you must be at least 21 years of age (24 years of age for a third-level postgraduate course). If you wish to attend a second level course you must be getting one of the social welfare payments listed below for at least 6 months. If you wish to attend a third level course you must be getting one of the social welfare payments listed below for 12 months (9 months if you are assessed and approved by FÁS under the National Employment Action Plan).

2013/14
To qualify for the Back to Education Allowance, you must be at least 21 years of age. You must be 24 for a third-level postgraduate course.

However, if you are getting Jobseeker's Allowance, Jobseeker's Benefit or One-Parent Family Payment for the required period(3 months/78 days or 9 months/234 days), are aged between 18 and 20 and have been out of the formal education system for at least 2 years you may qualify.

If you are aged 18 or over (over 24 for the post graduate option) and getting Blind Pension, Disability Allowance, Invalidity Pension or Incapacity Supplement for the required period (3 months/78 days or 9 months/234 days) you may qualify.

No Pants

It's a strange one OP. Anyone can turn up at the dole office on their 18th birthday and start a JA claim, with no history of working and no intention of working (lying may be required). However, if you're working to educate yourself, you get nothing.

Lenin Skynard

You can probably claim the supplementary one if you really have nothing and are able to convince them that you have nothing. If mammies and daddies are part of the equation you'll be out of luck.

Awkward Badger

You can. I'm on it now and will switch back to BTEA in Sept.

YFlyer

Went to college years ago in Limerick in Moylish. Back when it was CoACT. I finished 1st year and then went to the dole office and got the dole for the summer. Came September, I went into 2nd year.

Doylers

Pugsly wrote: »

You can. I'm on it now and will switch back to BTEA in Sept.

Thats different though, we go from btea to dole to beta and around till were finished. Its great to have the allowance though no way I could afford to be in college without it, although its so stupid I had to sit on my hole for a year so I would be eligible for beta in the first place.

Also I starting a job the end of this month so work is there for students just don't say your a student