"I will run you over, You're gonna die" - Video.

arleitiss

Hey, recently saw this video:
Not sure if it was brought up here yet but anyways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwqRqIvo4GU

Thoughts?

Not sure why but to me it sounds like it's another cyclist just being prick.

EazyD

Already exists in cycling forum

arleitiss

EazyD wrote: »

Already exists in cycling forum

It will obviously have different views on it

keith16

arleitiss wrote: »

It will obviously have different views on it

Obviously not. Many in there have said the cyclist had a death wish taking the line he did.

Many of the cyclists in there also rightly say that it's people like him that give us all a bad name.

But yeah, go on ahead and have your rant against cyclists based on this one twat.

Toyotafanboi

if i was the cyclist i would have slowed down at the start instead of trying to force my way through the closing gap. that way the bus could have gotten ahead to where it was going and the cyclist could have negotiated it without having to risk injury.

maybe the bus shouldn't have been encroaching into the cycle lane. life isn't perfect, i can't imagine it's easy negotiating something with a rigid body 50 or so feet long through the crowded city. there's a rule at sea that smaller more manoeuvrable craft must make way for larger, more difficult to manoeuvre craft, it's just common sense really. same should apply in traffic.

it would have been much easier for the cyclist to make that situation right than the bus driver.

dgt

keith16 wrote: »

Obviously not. Many in there have said the cyclist had a death wish taking the line he did.

Many of the cyclists in there also rightly say that it's people like him that give us all a bad name.

But yeah, go on ahead and have your rant against cyclists based on this one twat.

Summed it up for me. Plenty of normal cyclists about but sadly always one dick actively looking for trouble or any excuse to have a row. Same with driving, pedestrians etc

Wonder why the bus went into the lane, was there an obstruction, he didn't do it to the other 2 infront... Guess we'll never know

arleitiss

yeah I read up now on that thread in cycling forum, didn't know the guy that filmed that has quite a history of risky cycling and trying to act as victim.

Moneymaker

Totally avoidable situation. Both come across as aholes tbh.

Bus driver had no reason to veer into the lane, but the cyclist shouldn't have forced the issue and just backed off.

desultory

Guy driving the bus was a dickhead.
Guy cycling is a dickhead and a massive idiot.


and there we go.

donvito99

Considering the amount of cyclists killed by large vehicles on the quays down through the years, the bus driver - as a professional - should not stray into what is a very busy stretch for cyclists.

Also asshole cyclist with camera is asshole.... nothing new here.

Interslice

Undertaking by the cyclist. Then he cycles out in front of the bus. Don't see how the bus driver was a dick. He was just passing on very sound advice to an idiot.

I think he veered into the cycle lane to avoid the cyclist in the middle of the road!

donvito99

Interslice wrote: »

I think he veered into the cycle lane to avoid the cyclist in the middle of the road!

Where he is entitled to be....




... *runs for cover.

It looks like he veers into the cycle lane with the intention to get closer to the footpath for the bus stop that he stops at (he closes the door on the bus before pulling off, too).

It looks like it's clear he's taking that route (despite no indicator visible in the video), and the cyclist forced his was up inside the bus, when he could as easily have hung back?

If the cyclist were further up the inside of the bus, when the bust began to close in, I'd blame the bus driver. But that's not the case. I blame the cyclist. As said, fairly avoidable situation to get in to.

Henry Ford III

Bus driver shouldn't have gone left into the cycling lane. No idea why he did.

Cyclist was a mouthy idiot though. He could have avoided the incident very easily.

p.s. Interesting that comments on youtube are disabled.

NIMAN

Only watched it the once, but the thing that stood out for me was the craziness of the cyclist.

So there is a closing gap in front of me, and instead of hitting the brakes and falling back, he speeds up!

I read in the cycling forum thread that this cyclist has other videos where he is arguing with other road users, so perhaps he goes out of his way to get into rows with people?

Plus, the audio is very unclear, not 100% that the driver said what is being claimed. Maybe he said "I could have run you over" instead of "I will run you over". There's a massive difference.

phelixoflaherty

http://i61.tinypic.com/244czux.jpg


Bus stop is in on the left near van with red back

BMJD

sharing road space is a two way street baby

Mycroft H

Two idiots in that video, only one of them is going to get a bollocking. Pity

Kenny Logins

If you need a dickhead just give any man a bicycle and a camera.

Jesus.

Fukking asshole cyclist. Our Cities streets were not designed for big buses so you should always give these fellas - and truckers - leeway because its difficult to manoeuvre such large vehicles in those small streets. That clown should never have kept on cycling up the inside. He should have known better.

The Muppet

Moneymaker wrote: »

Bus driver had no reason to veer into the lane,

Cant be sure about that as we cant see what the driver can see at the other side of the Bus. At the start of of the clip there is another cyclist overtaking him despite it appearing to be only single lane traffice at that point.

I didn't think the bus Drive is threatening, more trying to be realistic telling the cyclist he could end up dead by being so wreckless.

I'm sure gardai etc are involved in this now and the cycylist hase been identified elsewhere too so I reckon both parties will have questions to answer.

stoneill

Passing side - suicide.

desultory

Jesus. wrote: »

Fukking asshole cyclist. Our Cities streets were not designed for big buses so you should always give these fellas - and truckers - leeway because its difficult to manoeuvre such large vehicles in those small streets. That clown should never have kept on cycling up the inside. He should have known better.

"but there's a magic lane with a little bike on it and he's ENTITLED to be there" -every single cyclist argument ever.

They are the scourge of the roads.

Alias G

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

there's a rule at sea that smaller more manoeuvrable craft must make way for larger, more difficult to manoeuvre craft, it's just common sense really. same should apply in traffic.

it would have been much easier for the cyclist to make that situation right than the bus driver.

That would be quite an ignorant rule to apply to traffic imo. Increasingly,infrastructure is being designed to give priority to peds, cyclists, public transport followed by other motorised traffic in descending order and that is the best philosophy for the modern age. Of course your last sentence is correct and it was within the cyclists ability to diffuse the situation at the very start which is what any sensible person would to but that should not be a general rule of traffic as you seem to suggest.

NIMAN

In that clip isn't there a cyclist seen to the right of the bus, moving in between it and a car to the right?

I would hate to be a bus driver in a busy city, you would really need your wits about you, and they must constantly fear seriously injuring or killing someone.

I think there are too many cyclists who are looking to be offended and willing to take silly risks to make a point on the road. This whole "I am entitled to use the road as much as you are" attitude will end up getting some of them killed due to them taking risks because they think they are allowed to.

MugMugs

It's become apparent that a camera on a helmet gives people a death wish. On fact, I had a dash cam and pulled a ridiculous move once (and got rightly owned on here for it)

I just pray nobody loses a life making a point with their GoPro

Jesus.

Alias G wrote: »

That would be quite an ignorant rule to apply to traffic imo..

I think you know what he meant. Any car driver/cyclist with an ounce of grey matter between their ears know to give these lads a bit of room when they can. Its simply common sense.

Alias G

Jesus. wrote: »

I think you know what he meant. Any car driver/cyclist with an ounce of grey matter between their ears know to give these lads a bit of room when they can. Its simply common sense.

But that is not what he typed is it. His statement was quite categorical in that smaller vehicles should give way to larger vehicles. I have no problem with showing courtesy to any other road user but it is a two way street (pardon the pun).

SeaFields

Is it the same guy from the 'I'm a woman on my own, stop harassing me' video that went viral a few months back?

Sounds and acts like him.

Alias G

SeaFields wrote: »

Is it the same guy from the 'I'm a woman on my own, stop harassing me' video that went viral a few months back?

Sounds and acts like him.

Not the same guyas far as I know, just one with a similar mental condition.

farna_boy

I find it hilarious that if a cyclist wears a camera he is looking for trouble but dash cams are not only acceptable but almost endorsed by every one in this forum.

Ash.J.Williams

The guy on the bike has a few other issues going on i'd say.

Spook_ie

The Muppet wrote: »

Cant be sure about that as we cant see what the driver can see at the other side of the Bus. At the start of of the clip there is another cyclist overtaking him despite it appearing to be only single lane traffice at that point.

I didn't think the bus Drive is threatening, more trying to be realistic telling the cyclist he could end up dead by being so wreckless.

I'm sure gardai etc are involved in this now and the cycylist hase been identified elsewhere too so I reckon both parties will have questions to answer.

Actually if you look at the clip immediate start is a guy in a red T Shirt over taking (love the 1.5m Gap he gives the bus and the other Q )

At 6 secs you should also notice there is a cyclist pulls over from the cyclist lane across the front of the bus ( You can see the cyclist at 11 secs through the windscreen of the bus )

I therefore put it to the court that bus driver was actually taking avoiding action from the 2nd cyclist and to prevent injury to that cyclist and to his passengers he slowed and veered left and indicated ( all in a space of 4-5 seconds ) The camera man ( in hindsight ) should have taken account of other traffic and cyclists before berating the driver.

BTW After replaying it umpteen times the driver actually says
"If you wanna die, just go in front of me, I'll run you over no problem"
Probably not the best choice of words but I don't get an implied threat there, more of a warning about his cycling behavior, probably in response to him crossing in front of the bus

MarkR

Update to this.

Dublin Bus is investigating footage which has emerged online of a row between one of its drivers and a cyclist.
In the video the double decker appears to veer into the bike lane prompting a confrontation between the two men.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dublin-bus-probing-online-clip-of-row-between-cyclist-and-driver-632583.html

Kenny Logins

farna_boy wrote: »

I find it hilarious that if a cyclist wears a camera he is looking for trouble but dash cams are not only acceptable but almost endorsed by every one in this forum.

It seems to me that anyone with a camera is in search of drama.

Patser

The silliest thing in all of this is that it happens 50m from a red light where the road also widens. So all this overtaking, undertaking, veering whatever is just as they all come to a stop where there's loads of space anyway.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

i cycle and drive, sure the cyslist has a point ,
but no SANE cyclist goes on the inside of a huge fcuking moving object .

the cyclist has no idea what the bus may need to avoid ahead or to the right of the bus
and suddenly pull left to avoid , mincing him in the process.

bus driver is a nob ,
but to be honest my head would be wrecked being surrounded by cyclists on either side , from a driving pov

i rate this 75% cyclist to 25% driver in utter dickheaded ness.

bazzachazza

Right at the start watch the cyclist in red overtake, a few seconds later bus moves to the left to give him room. Then video cyclist undertakes bus squeezes between the bus, the path and another cyclist, he then pulls back in front of bus driver to confront him. The bus has "veered" less than a foot into the cycle lane.

The driver in my opinion is saying "I'll kill you" as in if you do silly **** like that the bus will run over you and it's game over. He is not saying he will deliberately kill him but that if he can't see him and clips him......

This confrontation is precipitated by the cyclist who as others have said has a death wish and hates drivers.

Bus driver will be taken for some customer service training and the cyclist will continue to act like twat.

I hate drivers and cyclist in equal measures by the way.

Peanut2011

farna_boy wrote: »

I find it hilarious that if a cyclist wears a camera he is looking for trouble but dash cams are not only acceptable but almost endorsed by every one in this forum.

There are many cyclists wearing cameras and they are fine, it is the idiots like this one that is out to "educate" everyone by putting himself and others at risk to get the good video and "catch" people doing what they should not be.

Seen yesterday few of his other videos. A man is an absolute a-hole!

One of these days he will do that to a wrong person and find himself being picked up of the road!

We all share the road but some get the "self entitlement" disease!

No Pants

Saw a van driver and a bus driver get into a bit of a dispute yesterday morning at the junction between Parnell Street and O'Connell Street at approximately 08:00. Don't have a video because I didn't care enough.

the_syco

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

if i was the cyclist i would have slowed down at the start instead of trying to force my way through the closing gap. that way the bus could have gotten ahead to where it was going and the cyclist could have negotiated it without having to risk injury.

Although I agree with you, I think the bus driver should have used his indicators before moving in. I witness this sort of crap (non-use of indicators) whenever I'm driving in Dublin.

Alanstrainor

The bus driver had cyclists left and right, and those on the right were overtaking the bus on the outside faster than the cyclist on the inside. It looks to me like the cyclists outside were to blame for the slight deviation in course from the bus driver.

The driver didn't threaten imo, he was stating fact, you will end up dead with carry on like that on a bicycle. I'd say the driver had a fright himself. No sympathy for the cyclist.

I've been cycling through Dublin city centre daily for years (have covered almost 2000km through the city centre since Feb) with a camera on my head, have quite literally nothing worth watching in all that time. Dublin bus drivers are the best drivers on Dublin's roads, they are the most consistently observant, considerate and patient drivers on the road by in large. And they do this day in day out, for hours on end. Definitely not a job I could do.

Alanstrainor

I have enough footage to compile a 10 minute video of nothing but good press for Dublin Bus...I might do it actually, so much helmet cam negativity around. Too easy to be an internet arsehole.

TimeToShine

Alanstrainor wrote: »

The bus driver had cyclists left and right, and those on the right were overtaking the bus on the outside faster than the cyclist on the inside. It looks to me like the cyclists outside were to blame for the slight deviation in course from the bus driver.

The driver didn't threaten imo, he was stating fact, you will end up dead with carry on like that on a bicycle. I'd say the driver had a fright himself. No sympathy for the cyclist.

I've been cycling through Dublin city centre daily for years (have covered almost 2000km through the city centre since Feb) with a camera on my head, have quite literally nothing worth watching in all that time. Dublin bus drivers are the best drivers on Dublin's roads, they are the most consistently observant, considerate and patient drivers on the road by in large. And they do this day in day out, for hours on end. Definitely not a job I could do.

V. good post. It would be a shame if the driver got into trouble over this.

IMO that cyclist is insane. Speeding up on the inside lane of a bus with those black poles obstructing the footpath? Absolute madness. Also didn't sound to me like the bus driver was threatening - more of an observation, albeit expressed a bit crudely.

Moneymaker

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I have enough footage to compile a 10 minute video of nothing but good press for Dublin Bus...I might do it actually, so much helmet cam negativity around. Too easy to be an internet arsehole.

You should definitely do that imo.

I feel sorry for them, it's a very stressful job.

Moomat

Bus driver should of pointed him towards this video:

http://youtu.be/wCCWwjb43jw

NewCorkLad

From what I can see the bus driver was probably forced to pull in because of the 2 cyclists on his right. His reaction probably wasn't the best after this, however it seemed more of a warning because of the cyclist pulling in front of the bus than anything else.

The cyclist is an idiot for 2 reasons firstly for trying to undertake a bus pulling in, what ever the bus drivers reason you should pull up and give out to him when it is safe to do so. Secondly his an idiot for pulling in front of the bus driver and distracting him twice. If the bus had hit another cyclist or car while he was distracting him it would have been his fault.

He should not be allowed have a bike as he is a danger to himself and others.

blackwhite

donvito99 wrote: »

Where he is entitled to be....




... *runs for cover.

The guy in the middle is straddling two lanes.
If he can't filter safely without forcing traffic to move the he's not really entitled to be there.

He should be in either:
a) the cycle lane;
b) the middle of the bus lane; or
c) the middle of the driving/car lane.

Hovering on the line between the bus lane and the regular driving lane is both dangerous and stupid.

keithclancy

My first though was wtf kind of cycle lane is that.

Cyclist is suicidal.

robertxxx

Liam's a great guy.
Check out those crazy taxi and bus eireann drivers on Liam's YouTube page.

Mimikyu

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