Brian Crowley

mikeym

I could have done a better job than Crowley did since 2014.

I know he has a genuine medical issues but he was absent from Brussels since he got reelected and has done nothing for Ireland South.

He should step down NOW if he has any decency.

Phonehead

I find it very interesting that the reason he isn't running is not because it would be another 5 years of not being able to perform his duties in Europe but "I do not believe I would be in a position to run the type of campaign I would like to - I simply would not be able to do it (health-wise)"

nlrkjos

It shows the relevance of the EU parliament when an MEP can be MIA for five years, and it made no real difference to the people of Ireland south!!!!

Phonehead

nlrkjos wrote: »

It shows the relevance of the EU parliament when an MEP can be MIA for five years, and it made no real difference to the people of Ireland south!!!!

I think it showed the apathy and lack of understanding of the electorate towards Europe and just how important our voices there are. Brexit has taught us just how important Europe really is, one does wonder if Brians decision not to run is influenced by the fact that people have woken up to just how important Europe is.

theguzman

People like Crowley is proof if ever needed that the EU is institutionally corrupt and we'd be far better to side with Rhys Mogg and co. and wave bon-voyage to Merkel's plan for European Domination.

Phoebas

theguzman wrote: »

People like Crowley is proof if ever needed that the EU is institutionally corrupt and we'd be far better to side with Rhys Mogg and co. and wave bon-voyage to Merkel's plan for European Domination.

It wasn't any EU institution that gave Crowley a seat in the EP - that was the people of Ireland South in their wisdom.

If people are worried about 'European Domination', the first step in preventing it is to elect MEPs who are capable of actually attending.

Pandora08

Hi All,
Long time lurker, first time poster! (I would say go easy but I'm thinking I might not be that lucky for what I am about to say!)

I worked with Brian Crowley in the parliament a few years ago as a student. To be clear, I have not worked with Brian since nor did I know him prior to working with him or since then but as I do have first hand knowledge of his work ethic etc I really felt I should comment on this thread. (Feel free to bash away but I just thought I'd throw my two cents in as to what he was like to work with, just to give a bit of insight).

I cannot speak highly enough of Brian throughout the time that I worked for him. He was in my opinion the hardest working Irish MEP there, was very well respected and was a great ambassador for Ireland. I knew other people that worked for other MEPs and they would not have the same to say about those MEPs. He was ill at one point while I was working there and continued to work remotely from the hospital throughout so while physical attendance records are important, placing total judgement purely on that is not fair I think. Especially in an age when companies are becoming more and more flexible about remote working.

I was only a student but he really involved me with his team, was very personable and I learned so much about the parliament from him and his team.

Anyway, I just wanted to pop in and say that and wish him all the best in his retirement.

Widdensushi

Pandora08 wrote: »

Anyway, I just wanted to pop in and say that and wish him all the best in his retirement.

You are about ten years late

Pandora08

No, I was on an unpaid internship there.

touts

Phoebas wrote: »

It wasn't any EU institution that gave Crowley a seat in the EP - that was the people of Ireland South in their wisdom.

If people are worried about 'European Domination', the first step in preventing it is to elect MEPs who are capable of actually attending.

At the last election he was asked frequently why he had only attended the parliament for a few months in the previous 5 years He promised the people of Ireland South that his health issues were behind him. They voted for him on that basis. An honourable person who had made that promise in good faith would have resigned once it became apparent that he could not live up to that promise. That he didn't says it all about him in my opinion.

Pandora08

Anyway, I didn't post to cause any arguments/ debate or anything, I just thought I would say how I found working with him.

James Brown

Pandora08 wrote: »

Hi All,
Long time lurker, first time poster! (I would say go easy but I'm thinking I might not be that lucky for what I am about to say!)

I worked with Brian Crowley in the parliament a few years ago as a student. To be clear, I have not worked with Brian since nor did I know him prior to working with him or since then but as I do have first hand knowledge of his work ethic etc I really felt I should comment on this thread. (Feel free to bash away but I just thought I'd throw my two cents in as to what he was like to work with, just to give a bit of insight).

I cannot speak highly enough of Brian throughout the time that I worked for him. He was in my opinion the hardest working Irish MEP there, was very well respected and was a great ambassador for Ireland. I knew other people that worked for other MEPs and they would not have the same to say about those MEPs. He was ill at one point while I was working there and continued to work remotely from the hospital throughout so while physical attendance records are important, placing total judgement purely on that is not fair I think. Especially in an age when companies are becoming more and more flexible about remote working.

I was only a student but he really involved me with his team, was very personable and I learned so much about the parliament from him and his team.

Anyway, I just wanted to pop in and say that and wish him all the best in his retirement.

We're in some trouble so.
The criticism stems from attendance rates and frankly not carrying out his duties over a matter of years. Never met the man myself.

TCM

4 years living off the fat - simple as that.

johnnyskeleton

theguzman wrote: »

People like Crowley is proof if ever needed that the EU is institutionally corrupt and we'd be far better to side with Rhys Mogg and co. and wave bon-voyage to Merkel's plan for European Domination.

Widdensushi wrote: »

You are about ten years late

TCM wrote: »

4 years living off the fat - simple as that.

Mod note:

Please read the charter before posting again. No soapboxing, serious posts only please. The topic is Brian Crowley not the EU in general.

VinLieger

robwen wrote: »

Nonsense to say Brian Crowley hasn't been doing anything for years, I contacted the 4 South MEP's by email in 2017 about an issue, Sean Kelly no reply at all, Liadh ni Riada acknowledgement of email received nothing else, Deirdre Clune acknowledgement of email received & follow up phone call about a week later, Brian Crowley office replied within an hour looking for some more info & when was a good time to take a call, day after Brian Crowley himself rings me & he personally rang & emailed me numerous times till he got the issue sorted for me & I know he used contacts he had from the European parliament to get the issue sorted as I had correspondence with Polish MEP's offices who were directed to me by Crowley, all in all I found Brian Crowley & his office excellent to deal with

What was the scope of the issue may I ask? Was it in relation to a local issue or to do with Europe?


By the very definition of the job which is to represent his constituents and vote accordingly on issues within the European parliament he has been doing absolutely nothing as he has not attended or voted this entire term or for the last 2-3 years of his previous one which equates to 8 years of not doing his job yet still getting paid for it as well as claiming constituency office and hilariously travel expenses.

Beechwoodspark

Crowley doing an interview on finucane now. He has spent 3 And a half years in hospital apparently.

He’s spent the interview so far giving huge detail on his health problems.

Have the utmost sympathy for the man’s personal issues but I cannot for the life of me understand why he put himself forward for MEP when he had such ill health.

elperello

Perhaps there is a broader issue here.
We actively encourage people with disability/mobility problems to participate in the workplace and public life.
Maybe we need to have policies in place to facilitate them when health issues re-occur or complications develop.
In the case of elected representatives we could consider allowing a temporary substitute.

TCM

elperello wrote:

Perhaps there is a broader issue here. We actively encourage people with disability/mobility problems to participate in the workplace and public life. Maybe we need to have policies in place to facilitate them when health issues re-occur or complications develop. In the case of elected representatives we could consider allowing a temporary substitute.

Why would you want a temp when you are on full pay x 4 years. This dose'nt happen in real life.

TCM

johnnyskeleton wrote:

Please read the charter before posting again. No soapboxing, serious posts only please. The topic is Brian Crowley not the EU in general.

I was not soap boxing. I believe what I say.

Masala

On a side note ...what has Sean Kelly done for us in the past 4 years???

is there any accountability???? He must be creaming it on expenses getting from a Kerry to Brussels is no easy ticket and so must spend full days in airports on way over and back.

And talks that he might run for President some day...... god help us

lalababa

Seth Brundle wrote: »

What does it matter?
I don't follow any although I dislike some more than I dislike others.
Brian Crowley failed to do his job and it was evident to the people years ago that he was not going to be in a position to do it. He failed!
He did not however stand aside and let someone else replace him. He continued to take his salary and not do his work. He failed his constituents.
Allowing him praise because he faced various health challenges does not mean he should not also be criticised for his failings.

The main job a polictian has in an idealised world is to represent their electorate. In the real world their main job is to get elected and reelected. So he did a freaking great job!

JP Liz V1

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Crowley doing an interview on finucane now. He has spent 3 And a half years in hospital apparently.

He’s spent the interview so far giving huge detail on his health problems.

Have the utmost sympathy for the man’s personal issues but I cannot for the life of me understand why he put himself forward for MEP when he had such ill health.

He should have stepped down years ago with his health problems

Marengo

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

He should have stepped down years ago with his health problems

It's a terrible amount of illness. Hope he improves and enjoys his retirement.

elperello

TCM wrote: »

Why would you want a temp when you are on full pay x 4 years. This dose'nt happen in real life.

A temporary replacement would help to improve the representation of constituents.

I don't think the amount of money involved would matter in the greater scheme of things.

Maybe it should happen in real life.It's about real inclusion of people with disability/mobility impairment.

nice_guy80

Imagine a teacher or nurse being out sick for almost 5 years.
Would they be able to claim their full salary?

Would they like freck

elperello

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Imagine a teacher or nurse being out sick for almost 5 years.
Would they be able to claim their full salary?

Would they like freck

I was thinking more along the lines of it being an arrangement for people who enter the public service with an existing disability/mobility issue.
We do have quotas to allow them to participate in the work force.It would just be giving an extra consideration if their health problems re-occur.

TCM

elperello wrote:

A temporary replacement would help to improve the representation of constituents.

elperello wrote:

I don't think the amount of money involved would matter in the greater scheme of things.

elperello wrote:

Maybe it should happen in real life.It's about real inclusion of people with disability/mobility impairment.

Absolutely people with disabilities should have the same rights as non disabled people. However there are many of his constituents who are disabled ( and indeed not disabled) but don't have the luxury of retaining a job for 4 years while being on sick leave. I wish him well in his recovery, but does does not detract from my view that he is treated differently from the people whom you profess he represents.

elperello

TCM wrote: »

Absolutely people with disabilities should have the same rights as non disabled people. However there are many of his constituents who are disabled ( and indeed not disabled) but don't have the luxury of retaining a job for 4 years while being on sick leave. I wish him well in his recovery, but does does not detract from my view that he is treated differently from the people whom you profess he represents.

I am really in favour of giving extra rights to people with disabilities/mobility issues.
As I see it we allow them to participate in the workforce and that commitment to participation should be taken a bit further.
I'm not saying treat him differently from others in the same situation but give them both the extra help.

road_high

Brian Crowley has some brass neck- not only did he cheerfully draw down a massive salary for doing zilch, he also left the South without their required representation in the European Parliament, where it’s very important we are represented to the best as a small nation. In any other field this carry on wouldn’t be tolerated- people get sick, and have issues I accept that - but to drag it on for 5 years without stepping aside is very poor carry on. I’m sure there is very good sick leave payments etc available with the Parliament too.

El Tarangu

Masala wrote: »

On a side note ...what has Sean Kelly done for us in the past 4 years???

is there any accountability???? He must be creaming it on expenses getting from a Kerry to Brussels is no easy ticket and so must spend full days in airports on way over and back.

And talks that he might run for President some day...... god help us

Through the line of work that I do, I have been invited to several policy discussions where Sean Kelly was the chair, or was on a panel for; whatever else about the man, he does turn up to do his job.

Masala

El Tarangu wrote: »

Through the line of work that I do, I have been invited to several policy discussions where Sean Kelly was the chair, or was on a panel for; whatever else about the man, he does turn up to do his job.

Ya.... course he will turn up. Expenses there and back.

But what exactly does he do??? What has he done. Turning up and listening etc is all well and good. But is there an end product.

Looks like it's all waffle..... it's like he is in a twilight zone. Money for ol rope if you ask me.... AKA a gravy train

El Tarangu

Masala wrote: »

Ya.... course he will turn up. Expenses there and back.

Well, the subject of this thread has not turned up to work for several years, even with the generous reimbursement offered.

honeybear

Masala wrote: »

Ya.... course he will turn up. Expenses there and back.

But what exactly does he do??? What has he done. Turning up and listening etc is all well and good. But is there an end product.

Looks like it's all waffle..... it's like he is in a twilight zone. Money for ol rope if you ask me.... AKA a gravy train

No comparison between Kelly & Crowley imo

VinLieger

Marengo wrote: »

It's a terrible amount of illness. Hope he improves and enjoys his retirement.

He hasn't done a tap in 8 years, hes been retired for nearly a decade while getting paid a full salary of 8k per month, a salary most of us could only dream of, and disgustingly hes been claiming travel and constituency expenses on top of that.



I don't care how ill he is hes been lining his pockets for a decade, he's a disgrace.