Spray for docks/nettles?

Bleating Lamb

Have never had big prob with docks but they are establishing in bunches in a grazing field,it was cleaned off the other day.....what is best spray suitable for 15 litre knapsack sprayer to treat them,what's best application rate/mix for that size of knapsack sprayer and should I leave them a month to regrow before treating.?

Same question for nettles...they are taking over a paddock inaccessible by tractor so will knapsack spray it,whats best spray and suitable mix for 15 litre tank,
Many thanks for any advice,
Ps roughly what price are products for smallish bottle of spray.

Greengrass1

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Have never had big prob with docks but they are establishing in bunches in a grazing field,it was cleaned off the other day.....what is best spray suitable for 15 litre knapsack sprayer to treat them,what's best application rate/mix for that size of knapsack sprayer and should I leave them a month to regrow before treating.?

Same question for nettles...they are taking over a paddock inaccessible by tractor so will knapsack spray it,whats best spray and suitable mix for 15 litre tank,
Many thanks for any advice,
Ps roughly what price are products for smallish bottle of spray.

Used hurler last week on a paddock full of docks and paddock of big buck thistles. Sprayed some nettles alwell. All bent over an hour after.
Think its 60e for 3l drum.
2L/ha and 300-400 per 2l

tabby aspreme

Use Grazon in the knapsack to kill nettles

I said

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Use Grazon in the knapsack to kill nettles

+1

135man

Doxstar is great for docks they will curl over in 24 hrs after being sprayed grazon is good for nettles

bogman_bass

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Use Grazon in the knapsack to kill nettles

If using a knapsack then use it for docks too.

Dockstar not recommended for knapsack

Charliebull

grazon is the man for nettles, will kill the docks too,

joejobrien

Charliebull wrote: »

grazon is the man for nettles, will kill the docks too,

+1 here too

Greengrass1

joejobrien wrote: »

+1 here too

Dear though. Hurler 2/3 of price and does just as good a job and can go through knapsack

tom_k

If I may hijack this thread, what would ye recommend for patches of nettles and thistles, again in inaccessible areas so have to use the knapsack sprayer?

Is Grazon or Hurler effective on thistles?

I need to kill the thorny b'stards before they flower/go to seed...

allbuiz

I reckon it's more got to do with the timing of the sprays rather than the product.

Charliebull

tom_k wrote: »

If I may hijack this thread, what would ye recommend for patches of nettles and thistles, again in inaccessible areas so have to use the knapsack sprayer?

Is Grazon or Hurler effective on thistles?

I need to kill the thorny b'stards before they flower/go to seed...

yep grazon will kill thistles too, takes a bit longer, double dose through the knacksack will riddle them and gets briars too

tom_k

Charliebull wrote: »

...and gets briars too

Now we're talkin'!:D

Odelay

Charliebull wrote: »

yep grazon will kill thistles too, takes a bit longer, double dose through the knacksack will riddle them and gets briars too

Normal or less dosage does the job for me, briars (spray the fresh growth), docks, nettles and thistles wilt in 24 hrs with napsack. Grazon all the way, was out with it this evening:D

jt65

Odelay wrote: »

Normal or less dosage does the job for me, briars (spray the fresh growth), docks, nettles and thistles wilt in 24 hrs with napsack. Grazon all the way, was out with it this evening:D

+1

people think that by upping the dosage they are doing the better work, however the opposite is true , the slower the leaves or foliage wilt allows the chemical to travel through the root system hence killing it


too strong a mix burns off the leaves quickly & whilst first impressions look good, long term control is disappointing

Bleating Lamb

Thanks to everyone for their replies,suppose it would be as well to let the docks regrow from now till leaves are of decent size,
Will treat the nettles first dry spell of weather we get,will spray in evening when power is gone out of sun.

micky mouse

k

jt65 wrote: »

+1

people think that by upping the dosage they are doing the better work, however the opposite is true , the slower the leaves or foliage wilt allows the chemical to travel through the root system hence killing it


too strong a mix burns off the leaves quickly & whilst first impressions look good, long term control is disappointing

how long after spraying do you need to leave before cutting meadow,in order to be sure it has worked its way down into the root system

I said

micky mouse wrote: »

k
how long after spraying do you need to leave before cutting meadow,in order to be sure it has worked its way down into the root system

A month at least

Charliebull

jt65 wrote: »

+1

people think that by upping the dosage they are doing the better work, however the opposite is true , the slower the leaves or foliage wilt allows the chemical to travel through the root system hence killing it


too strong a mix burns off the leaves quickly & whilst first impressions look good, long term control is disappointing

could be right but I increased the dose last year on the ditches and have not seen a briar, thistle or nettle since,

PureBred

90ml Grazon to your 16Ltr Knapsack does the job.

1Ltr is about €60 and you should get 11 knapsacks out of it.

tom_k

For anyone that's interested, I got 1 litre Grazon today for €49.99 in Mullins, Shrule, Co. Mayo, everywhere I checked last week was charging €60/litre. Every little helps

I have no connection to the business.

Farrell

I said wrote: »

A month at least

Will it get rid of the problem altogether, or will you have to do the same next time

satstheway

tom_k wrote: »

For anyone that's interested, I got 1 litre Grazon today for €49.99 in Mullins, Shrule, Co. Mayo, everywhere I checked last week was charging €60/litre. Every little helps

I have no connection to the business.

Scrubkiller is the same as grazon 90 apparently and is 34.95 in CG. Works well for me

conseng

Bought grazon 90 for €47 last week. Made myself up a little sprayer also as have miles of briars to tackle. 200 litre barrel, cheap 12v pump off Amazon, few metres of hose, lance from the knapsack, made a timber frame on top of a pallet that I carry on double spike behind the 35. Works a treat for about €50 spend.

PureBred

conseng wrote: »

Bought grazon 90 for €47 last week. Made myself up a little sprayer also as have miles of briars to tackle. 200 litre barrel, cheap 12v pump off Amazon, few metres of hose, lance from the knapsack, made a timber frame on top of a pallet that I carry on double spike behind the 35. Works a treat for about €50 spend.

Bought a pump myself yesterday of amazon with exactly the same idea in mind. Any pics of ur setup?

conseng

I had it set up for the first time yesterday but forgot to take snaps.

I very loosely based it on this idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u30RKRdy1I4

micky mouse

if spot spraying briars/weeds etc how long do ye leave stock off field

PureBred

7 Days here

Bleating Lamb

With the fine weather we have, am going out to attack the docks and nettles some eve this week,docks have regrown nicely where they were cleaned off so should get good result hopefully ,I see 90ml Grazon per 16ltr Knapsack can seems good for Docks,presume that should sicken the nettles well too?

Odelay

You will have more than enough for nettles, you will see the wilt in the morning, say your goodbyes to them as they wont be back next year.

awaywithyou

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Dear though. Hurler 2/3 of price and does just as good a job and can go through knapsack

Used hurler last yr on after grass.. Thought it set the grass back a bit... How'd you find it??

Greengrass1

awaywithyou wrote: »

Used hurler last yr on after grass.. Thought it set the grass back a bit... How'd you find it??

Sprayed reseeds with it on Saturday. Grass looks fine. Going to use it on silage ground next week for docks

awaywithyou

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Sprayed reseeds with it on Saturday. Grass looks fine. Going to use it on silage ground next week for docks

Have after grass to do myself next week... It'll be doxstar pro..... If only the grass would grow at the same rate as the docks and weeds...

dharn

Anyone know why doxstar is not recommended for knapsack use

whelan2

i sprayed a paddock with dockstar on saturday evening, would it be ok to let cows in to paddock beside it this evening, i assume there would be feck all drift in this weather?

Sami23

Want to spray docks in aftergrass. Which wud be better spray, MCPA, Hurler or Mortone ?
About 4 acres to do

whelan2

micky mouse wrote: »

k
how long after spraying do you need to leave before cutting meadow,in order to be sure it has worked its way down into the root system

10 days, spray man said

dharn

Sami23 wrote: »

Want to spray docks in aftergrass. Which wud be better spray, MCPA, Hurler or Mortone ?
About 4 acres to do

Dockstar is best, none of above

Sami23

dharn wrote: »

Dockstar is best, none of above

But won't that kill clover ?

Farmer Pudsey

Sami23 wrote: »

Want to spray docks in aftergrass. Which wud be better spray, MCPA, Hurler or Mortone ?
About 4 acres to do

Sami23 wrote: »

But won't that kill clover ?

MCPA and mortone are the same they are both MCPA based so while they will kill the top growth and set docks back they will not kill same. If you had dock in ground with rushers where you were spraying regularerly with MCPA and an activator it would over time kill them.

Hurler will kill docks and so will Hi-load Micram. I find Micram very effective and cheap at 10 euro/acre. Have never used Hurler but a few on here have and seem to have got good results

farmernewbie

Lads,

I have a field after reseeding that has alot of thistles and nettles. Would MCPA be the best for this? I see 10L is only €48 but 1L of grazon is €60.

whelan2

farmernewbie wrote: »

Lads,

I have a field after reseeding that has alot of thistles and nettles. Would MCPA be the best for this? I see 10L is only €48 but 1L of grazon is €60.

i used high load mircam, worked well

farmernewbie

whelan2 wrote: »

i used high load mircam, worked well

Thanks, any idea of litres/price?

Farmer Pudsey

farmernewbie wrote: »

Lads,

I have a field after reseeding that has alot of thistles and nettles. Would MCPA be the best for this? I see 10L is only €48 but 1L of grazon is €60.

If weeds are at seedling or a little beyond MCPA is ideal, cheap and cheerfull. Not sure of dosage rates however it will setabck clover and may kill it completely. However if you have a weed issue I would wipe out the weeds and forget about clover

PureBred

farmernewbie wrote: »

Thanks, any idea of litres/price?

€90 for 5L on magenta.


Does anyone know if Agritox 50 will kill rushes. It says it contains MCPA 500 g/L.

farmernewbie

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

If weeds are at seedling or a little beyond MCPA is ideal, cheap and cheerfull. Not sure of dosage rates however it will setabck clover and may kill it completely. However if you have a weed issue I would wipe out the weeds and forget about clover

Thanks, reseeded last year but only got to graze this year and it's up for silage now. Ready to cut this week. There was a few thistles and a patch or two of nettles but they have taken over a good section of the field now.

I want to tackle these with a knapsack and go for the cheapest but most effective option. Will tackle when regrowing after silage cut. No clover so ok. It's annoying they have taken over so much and damaged grass. Should have tackled them earlier. Rest of grass is clean.

Greengrass1

Got mcpa there today. 26 for 5l or 50 for 10l
Got it for spraying around dutches and under wires. Dirt cheap compared to grazon or the likes

Farmer Pudsey

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Got mcpa there today. 26 for 5l or 50 for 10l
Got it for spraying around dutches and under wires. Dirt cheap compared to grazon or the likes

The only reason to buy grazon or terbel or scrubkiller is if you have briars or woody weeds to kill. Things like nettles, thistles are easy enough to kill

Greengrass1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The only reason to buy grazon or terbel or scrubkiller is if you have briars or woody weeds to kill. Things like nettles, thistles are easy enough to kill

Yep all that's in this place is nettles and thistles. No sign of a dock.
It says in the can though that it kills docks too

whelan2

got a hell of a kill with the grazon 90 and round up, going to do a few more knapsacks tomorrow

Oldtree

somebody round this way has had a go at brambles along a few of the road stony walls and it has been very successful, just sticks left, never seen the like before.