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  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭ murfler


    KCross wrote: »
    You'll be fine. I've had the docking station opened. The electronics are well above ground level... they are roughly at the level where the docking head swivels.

    Thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭ Boots234


    Apologies, no doubt this has been asked previously but I bought a 315x yesterday and rang about adding it to the home insurance today but they will only insure anything that is left outside to the value of 650 euro. I can't see any option for robot lawnmowers on the gadget insurance website. Just wondering if it possible to get it insured or what other people have done? Is it even needed with the alarm etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭ ArrBee


    Worx told me to do this so I guess this is the solution

    https://support.worx-europe.com/how-set-up-island

    I have had this setup like basically all of last summer and it was no problem.

    The mowers navigation is really simple, they basically have no idea where they are, they drive til the find the wire and follow it anti-clockwise til it finds home. When it finds the large island it doesn't know it's not the actual boundary. The only thing it could do software wise if there is was a max time to go home, and if it spent more than that going home it searched for a new boundary


    That link is really interesting. It describes the issue well.
    The issue applies for Islands greater than 6m X 6m only
    It says there is something in it's software to detect when it has completed a lap around an island and will move of to find the boundary but only if it is smaller than the specified size.

    Nice to know and something I'll be testing as I have a worx with large island, but smaller than 6x6


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭ witnessmenow


    ArrBee wrote: »
    That link is really interesting. It describes the issue well.
    The issue applies for Islands greater than 6m X 6m only
    It says there is something in it's software to detect when it has completed a lap around an island and will move of to find the boundary but only if it is smaller than the specified size.

    Nice to know and something I'll be testing as I have a worx with large island, but smaller than 6x6

    I have a couple of smaller islands (I think the largest is maybe a 2M circumference circle) and I've never seen it get stuck there, but I can't say for sure it ever hit there on it's way home.

    One of my original plans for the large island til I saw this solution was to see if I could detect from mower when it was going home and to enable a new portion of the boundary that took it off the island, but their API is not public and gap solution worked fine for us so I didn't dig into it

    We've since adjusted our lawn so we don't have the large island anymore as we changed a portion of the lawn into a veg garden.


  • Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭ ArrBee


    I have a couple of smaller islands (I think the largest is maybe a 2M circumference circle) and I've never seen it get stuck there, but I can't say for sure it ever hit there on it's way home.

    One of my original plans for the large island til I saw this solution was to see if I could detect from mower when it was going home and to enable a new portion of the boundary that took it off the island, but their API is not public and gap solution worked fine for us so I didn't dig into it

    We've since adjusted our lawn so we don't have the large island anymore as we changed a portion of the lawn into a veg garden.


    I'm going to test by aiming it at the island (trampoline) and telling it to go home.
    See what happens.

    Mine is new enough to not have accidentally hit the island on the way home yet so it will be interesting.

    I'm waiting another week after fertilizing before sending the mower out for the test.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭ witnessmenow


    ArrBee wrote: »
    I'm going to test by aiming it at the island (trampoline) and telling it to go home.
    See what happens.

    Mine is new enough to not have accidentally hit the island on the way home yet so it will be interesting.

    I'm waiting another week after fertilizing before sending the mower out for the test.

    We have left ours go under the trampoline, the trampoline has slight "\n/" shaped legs where the center of the legs is high enough for the mower to bounce off so there is just a couple of parts for each leg that need to be addressed. I've added a couple half blocks to these parts and now the mower bounces off all of the leg but can still go under. There are parts that need to be strimmed but the mower is doing a good job at under the trampoline.


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭ PuddingBreath


    just as a warning to others, an update on my order from MyRobotCenter.
    they're showing what i ordered off them as in stock now for over a week. We were last in contact with them yesterday. They said they don't have them in stock. we asked if they would ship it via express shipping by way of an apology as we were expecting it to arrive thursday the 13th(as per their website's delivery times).

    they wouldn't even do that so we'll be cancelling the order monday. i wouldn't use them again for anything.


    successfully ordered a mower off co-op superstores. happy with the turnaround. ordered monday, recieved thursday.

    very unhappy with the communication however. we were on the phone to them thursday morning as we had no confirmation of when it was being shipped. we emailed them wednesday to see about it as we were told it would be with us in 3-5 days (when we ordered it monday) but had heard nothing back except confirmation of the order.

    in the end they "delivered" it to us at 1pm thursday, the courier rang us when he was down the road a mile away >:(. that was the only actual confirmation we got on their end that it was on the way.

    of course the only time no one was at home all week was thursday before 2pm.

    we got it sorted, was dropped elsewhere and we collected it off them. bit naff when you've spent a grand to get the crap some coureirs pull by ringing you when they are dropping off nearby hoping to save themselves the extra trip. terrible weather today so not ideal for it to be dropped at a neighbours.

    co-op superstore's webstore phone number just goes straight to voicemail. they didn't reply to our email wednesday. but we eventually got to speak to some by chancing our arms and ringing the store in raheen and they transferred us thru to websales. a very roundabout way to get to speak to the person you should be speaking to.

    we've only opened the box to have a quick look but "Pep" Gardena is a girthy boy.

    unfortunatly now i wouldn't buy off them again, a simple email saying we've pass this to "x" courier service and they'll have it to you in the next couple of day would have sufficed. alongside a call or text the day before from the courier with just a heads up of an approx time of delivery, simple stuff in this day and age.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭ murfler


    successfully ordered a mower off co-op superstores. happy with the turnaround. ordered monday, recieved thursday.

    very unhappy with the communication however. we were on the phone to them thursday morning as we had no confirmation of when it was being shipped. we emailed them wednesday to see about it as we were told it would be with us in 3-5 days (when we ordered it monday) but had heard nothing back except confirmation of the order.

    in the end they "delivered" it to us at 1pm thursday, the courier rang us when he was down the road a mile away >:(. that was the only actual confirmation we got on their end that it was on the way.

    of course the only time no one was at home all week was thursday before 2pm.

    we got it sorted, was dropped elsewhere and we collected it off them. bit naff when you've spent a grand to get the crap some coureirs pull by ringing you when they are dropping off nearby hoping to save themselves the extra trip. terrible weather today so not ideal for it to be dropped at a neighbours.

    co-op superstore's webstore phone number just goes straight to voicemail. they didn't reply to our email wednesday. but we eventually got to speak to some by chancing our arms and ringing the store in raheen and they transferred us thru to websales. a very roundabout way to get to speak to the person you should be speaking to.

    we've only opened the box to have a quick look but "Pep" Gardena is a girthy boy.

    unfortunatly now i wouldn't buy off them again, a simple email saying we've pass this to "x" courier service and they'll have it to you in the next couple of day would have sufficed. alongside a call or text the day before from the courier with just a heads up of an approx time of delivery, simple stuff in this day and age.

    Jesus you are painful..you ordered on Monday and you received Thursday..not so bad..get on with it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭ Mango Joe


    We have left ours go under the trampoline, the trampoline has slight "\n/" shaped legs where the center of the legs is high enough for the mower to bounce off so there is just a couple of parts for each leg that need to be addressed. I've added a couple half blocks to these parts and now the mower bounces off all of the leg but can still go under. There are parts that need to be strimmed but the mower is doing a good job at under the trampoline.


    I copied someone on here and buried the trampoline footings - Was a pain to do but delighted with the results.


    As mentioned also buy this person - I no longer have to worry about the wind blowing it onto my neighbours house and cars etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭ jprboy


    Mango Joe wrote: »
    I copied someone on here and buried the trampoline footings - Was a pain to do but delighted with the results.


    As mentioned also buy this person - I no longer have to worry about the wind blowing it onto my neighbours house and cars etc.

    I love a good review ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭ ArrBee


    We have left ours go under the trampoline, the trampoline has slight "\n/" shaped legs where the center of the legs is high enough for the mower to bounce off so there is just a couple of parts for each leg that need to be addressed. I've added a couple half blocks to these parts and now the mower bounces off all of the leg but can still go under. There are parts that need to be strimmed but the mower is doing a good job at under the trampoline.


    Mine's an inground jobbie so no legs, hence the island boarder .

    I did pick up a tip from here about cable tying some wood to the goal posts though to give them a bit more presence...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭ KeRbDoG


    krissovo wrote: »
    Unless your dog has IBS or has a diet of vindaloo its not a problem. The mowers just largely ignores the turd and either bobbles over like its a twig or it might cut a piece off if I am using a low setting. The mower self cleans anyway by the constant cutting of grass. These are different to normal mowers that use the cutting blade like a propeller to "suck" the grass into the blade, they can get messy!

    I check every day or so and use an old ball thrower to flick the turd into a flower bed but its not really a problem if they are left.
    Same for me, if I see them I shovel them into the hedge but if I miss them many many poops, the mower just ploughs on through them. When replacing the blades just take (wash hands etc)
    listermint wrote: »
    It will be your mother board. Mine broke because a slug had a death wish and fried himself by eating through the board's lacquer and bridging a resistor.

    New board 80 bills from France. Working perfectly now
    Had the same issue with my Husqvarna earlier this year, pity the charging base stations are better sealed from wildlife.


    Random issue with my automower 430x a month ago, it couldn't dock.
    Kept on missing the docking station - lined up correctly and at the last mo veering off gracefully to the left or right. Thought it might be the base station needing re-levelling but that didn't sort it. Off to a dealer (first time since I bought it) it went and it turned out to be one of the front mower sensors. Sorted and now the mower has a software update - now if you start it in the middle of the garden, instead of beeping and then turning on its blades and driving off, it just drives off and turns on the blades. I'm sure there are other fixes.
    If I had of thought of the sensors in the mower I could have used the engineers menu on the mower to diag. Will know better next time! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,876 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    If I had of thought of the sensors in the mower I could have used the engineers menu on the mower to diag. Will know better next time! :D

    Since you brought that up. There are some useful diagnostic and test options in the advanced menu, that is normally hidden.

    For those that dont know, in the husqvarna's you do the following...

    - Press Menu button
    - Press 7 and 9 keys together for a few seconds
    - A new menu appears

    It has options for checking battery capacity, charging current, testing each sensor, boundary and guide wire signals, blade and wheel motor tests etc.... very useful for diagnosing issues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭ KeRbDoG


    Another tip for Husqvarna docks - if it is flashing a blue LED and you are certain it isn't a boundary or follow out wire issue, unplug those cables (you can buzz those out from the base station) and check the voltage coming out of the boundary wire terminals with a multi-meter. It should be 28V+. If its down in the 10s, check the voltage coming from the PSU is to the spec of the label output on the brick, if thats OK then the PCB in the dock station is prob the problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭ Bedouin79


    Any recommendations for a robot mower house?? Need something heavy as it’s windy up here. Current house is too light had a few wizard of Oz moments picking up the house from the neighbours. No matter how I’ve tied it down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,876 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    Bedouin79 wrote: »
    Any recommendations for a robot mower house?? Need something heavy as it’s windy up here. Current house is too light had a few wizard of Oz moments picking up the house from the neighbours. No matter how I’ve tied it down.

    My default answer to that questions is.... dont bother.
    Its designed for outdoor use, its not a pet! ;)
    Just bring it in for the winter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭ kilk


    Apologies if this has been answered already, but this is a long thread!

    I have 2 gardens, one in front and one at rear. Can a robotic mower be set to mow both gardens or do I need two separate mowers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,609 ✭✭✭✭ listermint


    KCross wrote: »
    My default answer to that questions is.... dont bother.
    Its designed for outdoor use, its not a pet! ;)
    Just bring it in for the winter.

    I'd agree however keeping the plastics etc in good order it's best kept out of the sun when not in use plus good for battery life when charging. All that heat from sun isn't ideal .


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,876 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    listermint wrote: »
    I'd agree however keeping the plastics etc in good order it's best kept out of the sun when not in use plus good for battery life when charging. All that heat from sun isn't ideal .

    The mower will spend a large amount of time outside in the sun regardless, so covering it wont really help unless you're OCD altogether and only send the mower out at night to protect the plastic.

    I've mine 7yrs now. Its out for hours on end during the day. The plastic is fine. You're worrying about something that isnt really worth worrying about. By its very nature its designed for outdoor use.

    The batteries have temp sensors on them. The Battery management system handles any issues there. I've replaced the batteries on mine for the first time this year and as I said its out in the sun all the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,876 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    kilk wrote: »
    Apologies if this has been answered already, but this is a long thread!

    I have 2 gardens, one in front and one at rear. Can a robotic mower be set to mow both gardens or do I need two separate mowers?

    It can do both if both are connected.... i.e. the mower can drive between them with no steps to navigate.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭ Bungusbeefcake


    Gaffs89 wrote: »
    Right lads,I've got an Ambrogio 20 elite a couple of months now.Delighted with it.Only one issue, I have a large flower bed wired off in the middle of the lawn,sometimes the Mower finds the wire around the flower bed instead of the perimeter wire when it's returning to the charger.The mower goes round the flower bed until I manually interrupt it.
    Any ideas?

    Hi Gaffs,

    My L350i also does the exact same thing. I found it one morning having run out of battery and basically circled around the same path for probably 6+ hours. The follow on wire and V-"quick" return methods are not selectable and should be always on, as far as I know. It just depends on what the mower sees. I have 3 separate V sections in my garden and not 1 of them works at all.

    I have the service PIN to get into the secret menu on the mower, so I should have a look there, and was told by an installer before to turn off the "loop" setting, but that didn't do anything really. But since yours was installed professionally, I would contact the installer and ask them. They should be tasked with fixing the issue, then let me know how they fix it.

    if you want the service PIN then give me an IM and I'll share it and how to access the menu.


  • Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭ ArrBee


    Here's a question I've been wondering about...

    If you were inclined to spray some of the grass that the mower touches without cutting, would you pause the cutting program for a week (or until it rains - whichever is less) so that the mower doesn't contaminate anywhere else?


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭ E30M3


    Hi Gaffs,

    My L350i also does the exact same thing. I found it one morning having run out of battery and basically circled around the same path for probably 6+ hours. The follow on wire and V-"quick" return methods are not selectable and should be always on, as far as I know. It just depends on what the mower sees. I have 3 separate V sections in my garden and not 1 of them works at all.

    I have the service PIN to get into the secret menu on the mower, so I should have a look there, and was told by an installer before to turn off the "loop" setting, but that didn't do anything really. But since yours was installed professionally, I would contact the installer and ask them. They should be tasked with fixing the issue, then let me know how they fix it.

    if you want the service PIN then give me an IM and I'll share it and how to access the menu.

    PM sent


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭ kilk


    KCross wrote: »
    It can do both if both are connected.... i.e. the mower can drive between them with no steps to navigate.

    Thanks. There is a gate in between which may or may not be open all the time. Can I programme the mower to do just one garden at a time?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭ slegs


    kilk wrote: »
    Thanks. There is a gate in between which may or may not be open all the time. Can I programme the mower to do just one garden at a time?

    Not in any effective way if both areas are withing the one boundary. You should look at cutting a mower shaped hole in the bottom of the gate to allow it to move freely between the two areas on a guide wire


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,876 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    kilk wrote: »
    Thanks. There is a gate in between which may or may not be open all the time. Can I programme the mower to do just one garden at a time?

    You dont need to program it for that. If there is a gate in the way and its closed it will bump against it and turn around and head off in another direction.

    What you dont want is it getting through the gate, someone closing the gate and then it not being able to get home. So, it depends on how that gate is used.

    NOTE: You need to be able to run boundary and guide wires along the ground through that opening and it needs to be wide enough for it, so if you are talking about a narrow gate it wont work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,876 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    Boots234 wrote: »
    Apologies, no doubt this has been asked previously but I bought a 315x yesterday and rang about adding it to the home insurance today but they will only insure anything that is left outside to the value of 650 euro. I can't see any option for robot lawnmowers on the gadget insurance website. Just wondering if it possible to get it insured or what other people have done? Is it even needed with the alarm etc?

    Each insurance company has their own policy on it. Some, like you found, wont cover it at all.

    I know Zurich will add it for no extra cost. You just tell them the make, model, serial number and they ask a few other questions like "is the docking station out of view, does it have GPS, is it PIN controlled"

    If you answer yes to all that they add it at no extra cost. There is a €750 excess on it alright though so just bump up the value since they arent charging extra for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ Shaunoc


    A few weeks ago, the front wheel came off my husky 450x :(
    Turned out the lockwasher within had deteriorated and snapped. I checked the other wheel and it too needs changing. Luckily I have one handy, but they do not seem easy got locally. It's diy territory to replace.

    The front wheel tyres are wearable and should be replaced (diy) every so often if you notice wear, as like mine the rubber wore and left a gap to the wheel plastic housing. That left muck squeeze in which caused the lockwasher demise over time. 3 years in my mowers case.

    What have I learned: pay more attention to the tyres, I haven't seen it mentioned as a potential issue in the thread.

    Maybe for those who is or for an annual dealer service are spared this.

    Also, when I'm ordering bits and bobs, get a stock of those wearable washers, bearings, screws, tyres. Those bits cost pennies but are priceless when stuck. I will check in with my local dealers to try get a few more. In the past I got from UK GPL but delivery is pricey.

    Happy mowing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭ ArrBee


    ArrBee wrote: »
    I'm going to test by aiming it at the island (trampoline) and telling it to go home.
    See what happens.

    Mine is new enough to not have accidentally hit the island on the way home yet so it will be interesting.

    I'm waiting another week after fertilizing before sending the mower out for the test.



    So I did this recently.
    The worx mower went around the island 1.5 times then stopped and went off at an angle to find the boundary.

    That doesn't make it clear how it is working things out to me.



    I've started having an issue with going outside the boundary wire.
    I'm not sure why it is or even if it actually is (it seems so close to the wire sometimes that I reckon it is being fussy).
    I'm going to contact worx and ask - or suggest an update to at least try and roll back 20cm before sending an alarm.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭ Baoithin66


    Blade on my ambrogio 250s+ bent and cut through the plastic guard. Happened before and just jammed -I straightened the blade and it worked fine for a few weeks but this time cut through two sections so I think I need a new blade and guard but I tempted to just straighten the blade again and leave off the guard.

    Has anyone just left the guard off?


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