FG councillor hit in face while out telling lies to try get elected

renegademaster

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-councillor-hit-in-face-while-out-canvassing-30261769.html

well they can't say they weren't warned!!

A Fine Gael councillor was assaulted while out canvassing.

Cllr Humphrey Deegan, inset, was canvassing for party colleague John O'Sullivan in Clonakility, west Cork, when the incident happened.

Mr Deegan said canvassers were calling at houses on Connolly Street when a man launched obscenities and then hit him in the face.

"The level of abuse thrown at me was appalling. He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai.

The Backwards Man

Advocating violence?

Classy.

mike65

In what way was he lying that you are not?

bumper234

Disgusting behaviour

Hopefully the scum that attacked him gets a nice long stretch in prison.

Sir Oxman

That isn't right no matter how much annoyance the public have.

Woodville56

Not a FG supporter but assault is assault . Have reasoned arguments with these guys on the doorstep but assault or personal abuse is just wrong !!

Bits_n_Bobs

Slight bias in the thread title, no?

The Backwards Man

mike65 wrote: »

In what way was he lying that you are not?

FG don't practice what they preach, the OP is out on the streets causing anarchy every week.

FrStone

If you don't like the current politicians you will get your say on the 23rd of May. If you are in disagreement with the results of the election you have to like it or lump it. That's democracy in action.

Violence is never right and I hope the culprit gets a hefty prison sentence.

Fair play for your man intending to keep on canvassing!

fearrua

Regardless of your political views, assaulting someone who's canvassing just isn't on, and I hope the councillor will press charges.

OldMrBrennan83

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Yellowblackbird

On the Loaded thread Title scale the title of this thread is off the scale.

MonstaMash

The 'hoi polloi' are pished off with politicos & their never ending bull****, false gestures & punitive stealth taxes...

Anger & frustration will manifest itself physically for the few...

Having said that, I am not advocating/condoning reactionary violence, better to engage them on an intelligent level via the democratic process.

bumper234

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

On the Loaded thread Title scale the title of this thread is off the scale.

Yeah but look who the op is, Less sensationalist thread title wouldn't get the views.

mike65

The Backwards Man wrote: »

FG don't practice what they preach, the OP is out on the streets causing anarchy every week.

Just looked his posting history - another keyboard warrior.

renegademaster

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Advocating violence?

Classy.

i never advocated violence but i did point out that the politicians were warned, they were plenty warned that if they continued to treat people like a bunch of kunts someone was eventually going to flip. i'm more fond of peaceful protests myself

mike65 wrote: »

In what way was he lying that you are not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS0c5AkiNg

Sir Oxman wrote: »

That isn't right no matter how much annoyance the public have.

it isn't right but this man can no longer ignore that some people are angry

bumper234

renegademaster wrote: »

i never advocated violence but i did point out that the politicians were warned, they were plenty warned that if they continued to treat people like a bunch of ***** someone was eventually going to flip. i'm more fond of peaceful protests myself



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS0c5AkiNg



it isn't right but this man can no longer ignore that some people are SCUMBAGS

FYP for you.

FTA69

Are people suggesting that this was some sort of politically-motivated action or what? It was some local lunatic, probably p*ssed or off his meds attacking some man out canvassing. I hate Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, but I'm not mad enough to think that their local representatives are some sort of evil incarnate as opposed to ordinary men and women. The only thing this is indicative of is that there's a few mental cases in the area.

Arthur Beesley

I'd be curious to know what party this lad (and indeed the OP) support. Given the violence perpetrated and the support from the OP, I have a fair idea.

LETHAL LADY

Our neighbourhood nutjob is out roaring through a megaphone at all the canvassers who visit our estate. He's a one man crusader protesting about everything. Some of his own children are currently in state care through his abuse and neglect, yet he has no shame in giving out about the taxes imposed to support them.

everlast75

Patww79 wrote: »

Just don't let any of the wasters past your door. Don't even answer it.

I'd LOVE if one of them would call to my door. Chickeny b*stards won't though!

bumper234

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

I'd be curious to know what party this lad (and indeed the OP) support. Given the violence perpetrated and the support from the OP, I have a fair idea.

Op believes the country should be run by an amalgamation of independent TD's who are replaced every 18 months, they are overseen by the magic money faeries who give the TD's extra cash to spend to run the country hence there will be no need for new taxes.

renegademaster

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

I'd be curious to know what party this lad (and indeed the OP) support. Given the violence perpetrated and the support from the OP, I have a fair idea.

what? where did i say i supported the assault???????? i have absolutely no party affiliation, none!! not fianna fail, not fine gael, not labour, not green, not swp/pbp, not sinn fein, none. is that spelled out enough for you

umop.episdn

When you call someone a bastard, and then assault them, you have lost any high moral ground you may have had.
He'll probably be a hero in his local with more of his ilk

bumper234

How about changing the thread title to "FG councillor viciously assaulted while canvassing"? At least make it more truthful

Richard Hillman

The left wing in this country are sickening. They honestly feel that abuse and violence is OK just because their lives are ****.

The far left politicians are encouraging the latest incidents too. Their ground support are encouraged to go out and confront FG/Lab politicians and troll social network sites

I also seen one certain left wing party cutting down posters of Fianna Fail in the last elections.

Yellowblackbird

The chorus of hate on all these websites and forums is exhausting.
It's also incredibly hypicritical.
The ordinary people I see around me in the world have equivalent or lower level of integrity, work ethic, honour and efficacy than any of these public figures.
I wouldn't expect people to be dancing with joy but Righteosness is definitely the new religion in Ireland. Maybe makes people feel better in a short term, self indulgent way.

Mikros

The quotes from the article on the Journal suggest Cllr. Deegan went to restrain the man after he started shouting abuse and knocked the flyers out of his hand.

Deegan said the man, believed to be aged in his early 20s, then knocked his election literature out of his hands.

“I tried to restrain him up against the car,” Deegan said, adding that he sustained the superficial cuts to his face in the ensuing scuffle.

Walking away clearly not an option that was considered!

Waitsian

Patww79 wrote: »

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I wouldn't ever resort to violence and screaming and shouting does no good, just gets your blood pressure up and causes you stress. I find saying nothing and very quietly shutting the door in their faces is just as effective. Gets the message across, wouldn't you say?

dxhound2005

renegademaster wrote: »

what? where did i say i supported the assault???????? i have absolutely no party affiliation, none!! not fianna fail, not fine gael, not labour, not green, not swp/pbp, not sinn fein, none. is that spelled out enough for you

Are you, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party?

renegademaster

bumper234 wrote: »

How about changing the thread title to "FG councillor viciously assaulted while canvassing"? At least make it more truthful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS0c5AkiNg

Lenin Skynard

Mikros wrote: »

The quotes from the article on the Journal suggest Cllr. Deegan went to restrain the man after he started shouting abuse and knocked the flyers out of his hand.

Walking away clearly not an option that was considered!

From the few articles around, the chain of events seems to go like this:

The man shouted out at the councillor from his car, the councillor approached the car. The next bit of information is that the man knocked his election literature out of his hand. Bit of a gap then in information, next we're told is that the councillor is trying to restrain the man up against the car and he got those cuts on his face. The man the councillor is accusing was actually the first to go to the Gardai with a complaint.

wendell borton

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Are you, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party?

He's not a communist...he may be stupid and he may be a communist but he is NOT a pornstar!"

Satriale

More than meets the eye here.

“I tried to restrain him up against the car,” Deegan said, adding that he sustained the superficial cuts to his face in the ensuing scuffle.

Are these the rounds they will go to to get people to listen to their sh1te promises?

Sounds more like self defence to me.

Royal Legend

Satriale wrote: »

More than meets the eye here.

“I tried to restrain him up against the car,” Deegan said, adding that he sustained the superficial cuts to his face in the ensuing scuffle.

Are these the rounds they will go to to get people to listen to their sh1te promises?

Sounds more like self defence to me.

I tend to agree, strange cuts to his face, they are more like wounds caused by someone defending themselves, not punching someone.

Hitchens

Blueshirts are a bit like wasps, annoying, with a bit of a sting in their tail

Lockstep

I'm not a fan of Fine Gael but how anyone can justify assaulting someone (no matter their political background) is beyond me.

Satriale

Lockstep wrote: »

I'm not a fan of Fine Gael but how anyone can justify assaulting someone (no matter their political background) is beyond me.

If somebody was "restraining" you against a car, would you call it assault?

Sticks and stones, councillor! Name-calling doesnt need restraining...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Assault is assault. Deplorable behaviour.

Now, OP do me a favour and state what lies he was telling. Don't just drop a link to YouTube or an article? Write out what the lies you maintain he told are. Have you the courage of your convictions to drop the internet warrior image for a few minutes and take responsibility for your actions - go on publish the lies by your own hand? First hand, your responsibility!

Royal Legend

Jaylah CoolS Aftershave wrote: »

Assault is assault. Deplorable behaviour.

Now, OP do me a favour and state what lies he was telling. Don't just drop a link to YouTube or an article? Write out what the lies you maintain he told are. Have you the courage of your convictions to drop the internet warrior image for a few minutes and take responsibility for your actions - go on publish the lies by your own hand? First hand, your responsibility!

He represents a party that told lies to become elected.

The more this goes on the more it looks like that the councillor was the aggressor or at least that he was the first to turn the situation into a physical one and now a bit like the rest of his party he is trying to lie and wrangle his way out of it and blame others.

Uriel.

Jaylah CoolS Aftershave wrote: »

Assault is assault. Deplorable behaviour.

Now, OP do me a favour and state what lies he was telling. Don't just drop a link to YouTube or an article? Write out what the lies you maintain he told are. Have you the courage of your convictions to drop the internet warrior image for a few minutes and take responsibility for your actions - go on publish the lies by your own hand? First hand, your responsibility!

That's never going to happen.

It's like the left wing alliance... Everything the government do is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. They'll happily shout that from the rooftops. All the while desperately saying in their heads "oh please don't let anyone ask ME for a solution"... Then..." no wait, eureka I have the solution... Tax the rich "...

It's boring at this stage.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Royal Legend wrote: »

He represents a party that told lies to become elected.

The more this goes on the more it looks like that the councillor was the aggressor or at least that he was the first to turn the situation into a physical one and now a bit like the rest of his party he is trying to lie and wrangle his way out of it and blame others.

Tell me one lie this individual told. Not that that is any excuse for assault.

Uriel.

Royal Legend wrote: »

He represents a party that told lies to become elected.

The more this goes on the more it looks like that the councillor was the aggressor or at least that he was the first to turn the situation into a physical one and now a bit like the rest of his party he is trying to lie and wrangle his way out of it and blame others.

What lies?

Before you answer. Make sure to think carefully Bout the fact that FG were not provided with a majority rule.

Satriale

I hope whoever threw the first punch/handbag faces the full rigour of the law, violence is never accepable...

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

renegademaster wrote: »

what? where did i say i supported the assault???????? i have absolutely no party affiliation, none!! not fianna fail, not fine gael, not labour, not green, not swp/pbp, not sinn fein, none. is that spelled out enough for you

No, your whole thing is about this supposed revolution that you constantly bleat on about (multiple threads started). Yet you don't have a notion of what would actually happen after it

You're saying you don't approve of what this scumbag did but you're revelling in his actions all the same. Which is just as disgusting

Get off the soapbox

It's people like you that give real liberals a bad name. You haven't a bulls notion

Also, how in gods name do you know he was telling lies? You don't know. He could have been, but you weren't there so maybe don't lie yourself

Boombastic

renegademaster wrote: »

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..... He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," ...

dxhound2005

renegademaster wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-councillor-hit-in-face-while-out-canvassing-30261769.html

well they can't say they weren't warned!!

A Fine Gael councillor was assaulted while out canvassing.

Cllr Humphrey Deegan, inset, was canvassing for party colleague John O'Sullivan in Clonakility, west Cork, when the incident happened.

Mr Deegan said canvassers were calling at houses on Connolly Street when a man launched obscenities and then hit him in the face.

"The level of abuse thrown at me was appalling. He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai.

You couldn't even get the information in the title of the thread right. He is not trying to get elected, he is campaigning on behalf of a colleague. His own job as a Town Councillor is gone and he is not standing for election to to the County Council.

Royal Legend

Jaylah CoolS Aftershave wrote: »

Tell me one lie this individual told. Not that that is any excuse for assault.

I will spell it out more accurately for you

He represents a party (Fine Gael) who told lies (quiet a few, in fact too many to mention) so as they could give themselves a chance to be elected ( and claim ministerial pensions, which they so richly deserved for all their years of perseverance in waiting in the wings to be elected, especially as the alternative was to cancel their leave of absence from their teaching jobs that was giving them a lesser pension)


And by the way, how is someone shouting abuse at you and knocking leaflets out of your hand a reason to assault someone?

The amount of FG apologists that seem to appear on boards and other social media outlets, leads me to believe that FG have actually setup their own social media department.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You couldn't even get the information in the title of the thread right. He is not trying to get elected, he is campaigning on behalf of a colleague. His own job as a Town Councillor is gone and he is not standing for election to to the County Council.

lol. Not a clue

Banjo String

In the name of fairness,I'm not an FG fan, but if you are pissed off with a political parties stance, roughing them up on the street is a scummy thing to do not matter who they are or represent. It's Indefensible.


However.

If it emerges that the canvasser did indeed happen to be the first one to use physical force, he should be prevented from doing anything at all that involves having face to face contact with Joe public.

bumper234

renegademaster wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS0c5AkiNg

Excellent link to a video of people inside a television studio. What's that got to do with the misleading sensationalist thread title?