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mitosis

homerjay2005 wrote: »

go on then, rattle off a list of players we have sold to our domestic rivals in the last 5-10 years?

Saha
Tevez
Silvestre
Berbatov
O'Shea
Browne
Obertan
Hargreaves
Morrison

kryogen

mitosis wrote: »

Saha
Tevez
Silvestre
Berbatov
O'Shea
Browne
Obertan
Hargreaves
Morrison

So you can't list off any then

homerjay2005

mitosis wrote: »

Saha
Tevez
Silvestre
Berbatov
O'Shea
Browne
Obertan
Hargreaves
Morrison

Tezez was a free agent, we did not sell him.
Berbatov was sold to Fulham, they are not a rival.
Sunderland and Newcastle are not rivals.
Hargreaves was a free agent, we did not sell him.
West Ham are not a rival.
the Everton Zaha deal was pretty much a free agent scenario also and, until Moyes joined us this year, Everton were not a rival.

keep digging.

mitosis

kryogen wrote: »

So you can't list off any then

With all due respect, they were all players sold by the club to another club in the same division. Or is there some other criterion I am unaware of?

ElChe32

Ah yeah Sunderland always up there challenging for the title, complete rivals for sure.

GSPfan

mitosis wrote: »

Saha
Tevez
Silvestre
Berbatov
O'Shea
Browne
Obertan
Hargreaves
Morrison

Only Silvestre was sold to a rival in any shape or form though.

Tevez was on loan at United. Never sold him.

Hargreaves was a free agent.

Cookiemunster

mitosis wrote: »

Saha - Everton
Tevez - city
Silvestre - Arsenal
Berbatov - Fulham
O'Shea - Sunderland
Browne - Sunderland
Obertan - Newcastle
Hargreaves - City
Morrison - West Ham

The important word here is rivals. Only Tevez who was only on loan at Utd and Hargreaves who was out of contract can be consider to have went to a rival and Utd didn't sell either.

mitosis

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Tezez was a free agent, we did not sell him.
Berbatov was sold to Fulham, they are not a rival.
Sunderland and Newcastle are not rivals.
Hargreaves was a free agent, we did not sell him.
West Ham are not a rival.

keep digging.

How are they not rivals? All start the season with the same number of points and play each other. Rivals, if you will.

jaykay74

mitosis wrote: »

Saha
Tevez
Silvestre
Berbatov
O'Shea
Browne
Obertan
Hargreaves
Morrison

So what you're saying is that you don't have a clue what you're on about. Gotcha.

ElChe32

mitosis wrote: »

How are they not rivals? All start the season with the same number of points and play each other. Rivals, if you will.

Ah would you go home

Paul Tergat

mitosis wrote: »

How are they not rivals? All start the season with the same number of points and play each other. Rivals, if you will.

You are smart enough to know that isnt true. One of those where you just have to accept the original statement made was wrong.

mitosis

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Tezez was a free agent, we did not sell him.
Berbatov was sold to Fulham, they are not a rival.
Sunderland and Newcastle are not rivals.
Hargreaves was a free agent, we did not sell him.
West Ham are not a rival.
the Everton Zaha deal was pretty much a free agent scenario also and, until Moyes joined us this year, Everton were not a rival.

keep digging.

This surprises me.

Soccerbase, eg

Carlos Tevez Man City £47,000,000 14 Jul, 2009

Cookiemunster

mitosis wrote: »

How are they not rivals? All start the season with the same number of points and play each other. Rivals, if you will.

Rivals means a club that could challenge Utd. Over the last number of years thats been a short list of City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea. And City are only recent additions to that list.

homerjay2005

irishfeen wrote: »

I just don't get the big deal about her at all - average at best.

to be fair, its mostly her slutty outfits and actions than her looks that gets her attention. she is nothing special and falls within the "attractive because she is famous" category

in saying that, i doubt there is a straight man on here that would turn her down if she dropped her knickers in front of them.

kryogen

mitosis wrote: »

With all due respect, they were all players sold by the club to another club in the same division. Or is there some other criterion I am unaware of?

Yeah, was a pretty clear one.

Blatter

mitosis wrote: »

This surprises me.

Soccerbase, eg

Carlos Tevez Man City £47,000,000 14 Jul, 2009

Google 'Kia Joorabchian'

Cookiemunster

mitosis wrote: »

This surprises me.

Soccerbase, eg

Carlos Tevez Man City £47,000,000 14 Jul, 2009

What part of he was only on loan at Utd did you not understand?

GSPfan

RIVAL

1. One who attempts to equal or surpass another, or who pursues the same object as another; a competitor.
2. One that equals or almost equals another in a particular respect.

There is no way in hell you can claim that 19 other teams in the league each year are trying to equal or surpass United. Most are just happy to survive. Its only the top 6 to 7 clubs who can really claim a rivalry and even at that it's pushing it.

homerjay2005

apologies if this was already discussed, but just having a look through the redissue twitter page and saw this -

this was posted a few days before Moyes was sacked.

Fergie's become very isolated on MUFC board. He has few friends left there & he's far from happy about it. Don't expect his resignation tho.

this was then posted a week or so ago -

Former Voice Of Fergie @Bob_Cass is on @talkSPORT speaking about him being frozen out at OT

its a shame that its starting to go this way for him after all he did, but his stubborness led to this and he cannot blame anybody apart from himself.

irishfeen

homerjay2005 wrote: »

to be fair, its mostly her slutty outfits and actions than her looks that gets her attention. she is nothing special and falls within the "attractive because she is famous" category

in saying that, i doubt there is a straight man on here that would turn her down if she dropped her knickers in front of them.

Well I thought that was taken for granted Homer lad

bucketybuck

mitosis wrote: »

How are they not rivals? All start the season with the same number of points and play each other. Rivals, if you will.

Quit talking ****e.

newballsplease

homerjay2005 wrote: »

apologies if this was already discussed, but just having a look through the redissue twitter page and saw this -

this was posted a few days before Moyes was sacked.



this was then posted a week or so ago -



its a shame that its starting to go this way for him after all he did, but his stubborness led to this and he cannot blame anybody apart from himself.

Dont know if that is to be believed. Dont think Cass and SAF see eye to eye anymore.
Maybe trying to get under his skin a bit.

The_Kew_Tour

Was speaking to random Everton fan I met today.

He was saying he would not be surprised if Fellaini made a return to Everton maybe next season if things don't work work.

Got me thinking if he may feel slight outsider with him being Moyes buy and Giggs not having him in squad for first game in charge.

Did think Everton fan may have a point.

The_Kew_Tour

I have to say it was a nice change to see nobody tell us Kate Upton was average or that you see better in Grafton Street.

At least we ain't as blind and little more honest now;)

Antibac

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Was speaking to random Everton fan I met today.

He was saying he would not be surprised if Fellaini made a return to Everton maybe next season if things don't work work.

Got me thinking if he may feel slight outsider with him being Moyes buy and Giggs not having him in squad for first game in charge.

Did think Everton fan may have a point.

Maybe Kew. Personally I think he will follow Moyes wherever he ends up.

GSPfan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Was speaking to random Everton fan I met today.

He was saying he would not be surprised if Fellaini made a return to Everton maybe next season if things don't work work.

Got me thinking if he may feel slight outsider with him being Moyes buy and Giggs not having him in squad for first game in charge.

Did think Everton fan may have a point.

I don't see it happening. I doubt an Everton team under Martinez would have much use for him. It's just my opinion but I think Fellaini will either shape up or be shipped out to the highest bidder next Summer and Everton wont be interested.

irishfeen

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I have to say it was a nice change to see nobody tell us Kate Upton was average or that you see better in Grafton Street.

At least we ain't as blind and little more honest now

I think we have as progressed as human beings today Kew

glued

homerjay2005 wrote: »

apologies if this was already discussed, but just having a look through the redissue twitter page and saw this -

this was posted a few days before Moyes was sacked.



this was then posted a week or so ago -



its a shame that its starting to go this way for him after all he did, but his stubborness led to this and he cannot blame anybody apart from himself.

I have to agree. The Glazers entrusted Ferguson to pick his successor. Ferguson picked a friend. Not the right choice. Two Glaswegians from protestant families who were staunch Labour supporters and fund-raisers. As far as I can see that's all they had in common. It was a terrible choice.

When news spread that Moyes was going to be sacked, he tried to contact Ferguson. Ferguson didn't answer. He didn't want to be the one to tell him. Ferguson always looked after his friends and family. He didn't talk to the BBC for years after a documentary they made about his son Jason, he often, along with other managers, tried to look after Darren Ferguson with players and anything else as he saw fit. Including Tony Pulis and himself recalling five players when Darren was sacked at Peterborough. His brother was chief scout at Manchester United at his request despite being pretty anonymous for many years in the role. It's no surprise that Moyes was selected considering their friendship and share of such limited interests.

The Glazers are trying to run a business. Moyes was an awful appointment. If I was a shareholder I would be calling for Ferguson's resignation such was the quality of successor selected and the staunch defence. A legendary manager, but schoolboy board member. It'll be interesting if he decides to write a book that is not based on settling scores. It would be fascinating to heard part of what really went on. I suggest that will never happen due to the nature of the role of a director.

homerjay2005

GSPfan wrote: »

I don't see it happening. I doubt an Everton team under Martinez would have much use for him. It's just my opinion but I think Fellaini will either shape up or be shipped out to the highest bidder next Summer and Everton wont be interested.

Everton dont have the money to buy him back unless we sold him off at £6m-£10million maximum.

in saying that, if he has another season like last then thats all he would be worth if we were to sell him this time next year. he needs a good world cup and some time off to have a good season.

The_Kew_Tour

Do people expect Fellaini to at least be a solid option for us in CM or do you fear it's a flop already and that it was a mistake buying him?

Personally, I think he not got a fair crack yet. I don't know if he be a 27 million player but I think he is much better then what he has shown and I hope we can see his Everton form more with LVG in charge, hopefully.