Over 200 Nigerian girls abducted

mad muffin

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/30/where-are-the-stolen-girls-of.html

Over two weeks ago and only hearing this for the first time tonight.

A group of Islamist rebels in the dead of night, with trucks mounted an assault on a girls boarding school managing to abduct over 200 young girls, to marry and sell for marriage. :eek:

Dufuq is wrong with these radical Muslims? :mad:

Those poor girls and their families

I just can't even imagine such a thing.

No Pants

mad muffin wrote: »

sell for marriage. :eek:

Should this not be in Bargain Alerts?

Wacker The Attacker

mad muffin wrote: »

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/30/where-are-the-stolen-girls-of.html

Over two weeks ago and only hearing this for the first time tonight.

A group of Islamist rebels in the dead of night, with trucks mounted an assault on a girls boarding school managing to abduct over 200 young girls, to marry and sell for marriage. :eek:

Dufuq is wrong with these radical Muslims? :mad:

Those poor girls and their families

I just can't even imagine such a thing.

We havent been listening to the news have we?

wazky

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

We havent been listening to the news have we?

Speak for yourself, I always watch the news on the radio.

mad muffin

No Pants wrote: »

Should this not be in Bargain Alerts?

No. That's just beyond awful. Human trafficking is just something I can't fathom. Especially of children

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

We havent been listening to the news have we?

I normally don't listen to the news but breaking stories appear on the internet all the time. I haven't seen anything about it until today. This happened over two weeks ago.

Nodin

mad muffin wrote: »

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/30/where-are-the-stolen-girls-of.html

Over two weeks ago and only hearing this for the first time tonight.

A group of Islamist rebels in the dead of night, with trucks mounted an assault on a girls boarding school managing to abduct over 200 young girls, to marry and sell for marriage. :eek:

Dufuq is wrong with these radical Muslims? :mad:

Those poor girls and their families

I just can't even imagine such a thing.

This lot seem extremely nutty...which when you consider what the rest of the jihadis are like is bad news indeed.

Bullseye500

mad muffin wrote: »

No. That's just beyond awful. Human trafficking is just something I can't fathom. Especially of children



I normally don't listen to the news but breaking stories appear on the internet all the time. I haven't seen anything about it until today. This happened over two weeks ago.

Yeah and I saw it two weeks ago this is old news.

It was on Sky news when it happened.

No Pants

mad muffin wrote: »

Human trafficking is just something I can't fathom. Especially of children

It's really quite easy to understand. It's profitable and it spreads fear.

Gran Hermano

If I join Facebook and like the campaign will they be released?

No Pants

Gran Hermano wrote: »

If I join Facebook and like the campaign will they be released?

The kidnappers have set the target at 5 million likes.

wazky

Someone will lose an eye with this carry on.

Awful story. I dread to think what those innocent girls are going through right now.

dharma200

Two hundred school girls a ducted and possible tortured raped and murdered..... Great time for a joke... I know it's after hours but really...........

Davarus Walrus

It gives a bit of context as to why people decide to seek asylum in Ireland.

My name is URL

No Pants wrote: »

Should this not be in Bargain Alerts?

That's terrible... have a thank

Steppenwolfe

Gran Hermano wrote: »

If I join Facebook and like the campaign will they be released?

Only if they get 1,000,000 likes.

Awful thing to make jokes about

Davarus Walrus

So much death, suffering and human-rights abuse taking place in Sub-Saharan Africa at the moment. All very depressing. It rarely registers in the news here though. Focus always seems to be on much more complex flashpoints in the Middle East.

SilverScreen

I find it completely disgusting that people are making jokes about this.

It's sad that stuff can happen like this. These girls will more than likely be subjected to all kinds of suffering, will never see their families again and possibly even be killed.

creolebelle

There is a petition on the White House petition page. I'm not sure if you have to be an american to sign it. Change.org has one as well

cloud493

creolebelle wrote: »

There is a petition on the White House petition page. I'm not sure if you have to be an american to sign it. Change.org has one as well

Thats definitely gonna fix the problem. Signing a Facebook petition, genius.

opo

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

It gives a bit of context as to why people decide to seek asylum in Ireland.

It doesn't really.

creolebelle

cloud493 wrote: »

Thats definitely gonna fix the problem. Signing a Facebook petition, genius.

It's a petition listed on the whitehouse.gov site not facebook. It's a way for ppl to petition the u.s government

Duggy747

It was reported earlier today that the number of school girls missing has gone up to 276, meaning 329 were abducted but 53 escaped.

cloud493

creolebelle wrote: »

It's a petition listed on the whitehouse.gov site not facebook. It's a way for ppl to petition the u.s government

And still won't change a thing.

creolebelle

cloud493 wrote: »

And still won't change a thing.

If you say so.

Akrasia

Two things very FUBAR about this story. The mass abduction,
And the fact that it's considered acceptable to marry young children in this particular religious community.

Every year countless innocent young girls are given to older men to marry. This every day depravity is much more horrific than this single act of large scale depravity

Shakespeare's Sister

cloud493 wrote: »

Thats definitely gonna fix the problem. Signing a Facebook petition, genius.

Strange thing to say. There was zero mention of a Facebook page.

Jonny7

This was nearly 3 weeks ago... the Nigerian government has only just asked for photos of the girls

Boko Haram are particularly nasty, they've killed hundreds already this year.. they focus on churches and schools, massacring and burning students in their sleep, also recently motorists been hacked to death, survivors had their eyes gouged out

The US and Europe and other African nations are trying to help

No Pants

creolebelle wrote: »

There is a petition on the White House petition page. I'm not sure if you have to be an american to sign it. Change.org has one as well

What has it got to do with the White House? I thought this happened in Nigeria.

Lou.m

Nodin wrote: »

This lot seem extremely nutty...which when you consider what the rest of the jihadis are like is bad news indeed.

No

This is trade. The young women are simply things that they can sell for money. They are a commodity.

Sexual slavery and bride businesses are all over the world. Some allow a certain compliance on behalf of the women although with perhaps economic or extreme social pressure. Many don't.

They want what they can get. It is a barren economy with women having little social status. There is a high degree of corruption so they do not fear the law and there is a lot of lawlessness.


And they are practiced at extreme violence and maldeeds . They are used to doing it so they can.

Young brides are allowed by some in Islam ....in fact

No age limits have been fixed by Islam for marriage according to Reuben Levy,and "quite young children may be legally married". The girl may not live with the husband however until she is fit for marital sexual relations. The Hanafi madhhab of Islamic fiqh maintains that a wife must not be taken to her husband's house until she reaches the condition of fitness for sexual relations. Levy adds:

"In case of a dispute on the matter between the husband and the bride's wali (her nearest male kinsman and her guardian), the judge (qadi) is to be informed and he is to appoint two matrons to examine the girl and report on her physical preparedness for marriage. If they decide she is too young, she must return to her father's house until she is judged fit. Betrothal may take place at any age. Actual marriage is later, but the age for it varies in different lands."
—Reuben Levy, The Social Structure of Islam

In Islamic legal terminology, Baligh refers to a person who has reached maturity, puberty or adulthood and has full responsibility under Islamic law. Legal theorists assign different ages and criteria for reaching this state for both males and females. In marriage baligh is related to the Arabic legal expression, hatta tutiqa'l-rijal, which means that the wedding may not take place until the girl is physically fit to engage in sexual intercourse. Some Hanafi scholars hold the opinion that sexual intercourse may take place before puberty, as long as it's not injurious to one's health. In comparison, baligh or balaghat concerns the reaching of sexual maturity which becomes manifest by the menses. The age related to these two concepts can, but need not necessarily, coincide. Only after a separate condition called rushd, or intellectual maturity to handle one's own property, is reached can a girl receive her bridewealth.

Now for there also balance used to be (and probably still are in some quarters child brides in Christianity. And most Muslims would not agree with child brides.

Arthur Beesley

No Pants wrote: »

The kidnappers have set the target at 5 million likes.

No, but may end up with a new bride.

Flippyfloppy

Jonny7 wrote: »

This was nearly 3 weeks ago... the Nigerian government has only just asked for photos of the girls

The jokes on here are extremely sick. These children are likely actively being treated as sex slaves. Anyone who finds that induces the humour side of their brain should really go see a professional to get that looked at.

OP is correct, it was reported on once, 2 weeks ago. If it was 'western' type children it would be all over the news.

Whatever about the slagging about the likes on Facebook (thanks guys, you're sweet) unless someone can think of a better idea , I do suggest retweeting #bringbackourgirls and joining any petitions online.

Perhaps the Nigerian government are only now feeling the eyes of the world looking on, explaining why they're only asking for the kidnapped girls photos (facepalm) now.

Grayson

Lou.m wrote: »

No

This is trade. The young women are simply things that they can sell for money. They are a commodity.

Sexual slavery and bride businesses are all over the world. Some allow a certain compliance on behalf of the women although with perhaps economic or extreme social pressure. Many don't.

They want what they can get. It is a barren economy with women having little social status. There is a high degree of corruption so they do not fear the law and there is a lot of lawlessness.


And they are practiced at extreme violence and maldeeds . They are used to doing it so they can.

Young brides are allowed by some in Islam ....in fact



Now for there also balance used to be (and probably still are in some quarters child brides in Christianity. And most Muslims would not agree with child brides.

Young brides are allowed in Christianity. they're not encouraged, but they're not forbidden either. The number that's bandied around is that Mary was 14 when jesus was born and at that point she was married to Joseph.

In medieval times the standard age for marriage was considered to be no lower than 14.



The fact that the Koran says that child marriage is ok makes it no better or worse than Christianity which happens not to mention it. It's a bit weird that it's not mentioned considering how many rules there are in the bible. Especially rules covering sexual behaviour and marriage.

but back to the guys who kidnapped the girls. Islam is used by them to justify their actions, and it's blamed by people who condemn their actions. It's not really Islam though. These people are living in a dark age society.

creolebelle

No Pants wrote: »

What has it got to do with the White House? I thought this happened in Nigeria.

It's a petition to get the american govt involved.

mickydoomsux

No Pants wrote: »

What has it got to do with the White House? I thought this happened in Nigeria.

We want them to play World Police again.

Lightbulb Sun

Boko Haram are pure scum.

As recently as February they broke into a school and slaughtered 59 male students.

These stories are under-reported in the media as well.

The_Valeyard

Lightbulb Sun wrote: »

Boko Haram are pure scum.

As recently as February they broke into a school and slaughtered 59 male students.

These stories are under-reported in the media as well.

There are, but who exactly are they?

They do not seem to just be one group, but a mix of cells or different factions wanting the title of 'Boko Haram'

Jonny7

Lightbulb Sun wrote: »

These stories are under-reported in the media as well.

and the media is essentially driven by us

Everyone you know concerned/talking about this? or the landslide in Afghanistan that killed over 2000? nope it's Peaches and Clarkson

Human interest and newsworthiness is a major factor

We're as much to blame as the media

creolebelle

mickydoomsux wrote: »

We want them to play World Police again.

I agree that the US needs to scale back our interference in the affairs of other countries but in this situation I think the US and other countries should get involved since the Nigerian government has failed to act

mickydoomsux

creolebelle wrote: »

I agree that the US needs to scale back our interference in the affairs of other countries but in this situation I think the US and other countries should get involved since the Nigerian government has failed to act

So basically they should be used as the UN's "attack dogs" to fight what they deem to be the "right" fights?

The international community has a lot of ****ing nerve frowning on some of their operations in some countries and then going to them cap in hand to commence operations in a different country.

Try doing that with other superpowers and see how it goes. Ask the Russians or Chinese to go into Nigeria.

Ryu Hayabusa

Insert Image of Maude Flanders with the caption "Won't somebody think of the children"

Shakespeare's Sister

opo wrote: »

It doesn't really.

How doesn't it?

creolebelle

mickydoomsux wrote: »

So basically they should be used as the UN's "attack dogs" to fight what they deem to be the "right" fights?

The international community has a lot of ****ing nerve frowning on some of their operations in some countries and then going to them cap in hand to commence operations in a different country.

Try doing that with other superpowers and see how it goes. Ask the Russians or Chinese to go into Nigeria.

So what do you think should be done?

Mike747

creolebelle wrote: »

I agree that the US needs to scale back our interference in the affairs of other countries but in this situation I think the US and other countries should get involved since the Nigerian government has failed to act

Obama isn't going to give two ****s about abducted school girls in Nigeria.

mickydoomsux

creolebelle wrote: »

So what do you think should be done?

I don't know but it shouldn't be "send in the Americans" again.

opo

Magaggie wrote: »

How doesn't it?

Empirically and proportionally.

Shakespeare's Sister

Mike747 wrote: »

Obama isn't going to give two ****s about abducted school girls in Nigeria.

I'd say he is, very much. How much he can do about it is another story though.

Mike747

Magaggie wrote: »

I'd say he is, very much. How much he can do about it is another story though.

Sorry but unless its Americans or Israelis that have been abducted he ain't going to do ****.

opo

Magaggie wrote: »

I'd say he is, very much. How much he can do about it is another story though.

You are aware that he hasn't managed to eradicate school shootings on home soil I take it?

Shakespeare's Sister

Just saying it doesn't mean he doesn't give a sh-t about these kids.