Sarah Palin - Waterboarding is how we baptise terrorists

bumper234

Thank **** this idiot never made it to the whitehouse

http://news.sky.com/story/1250770/sarah-palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptise

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin has said that if she was in charge, she would ensure terrorists are "baptised" using waterboarding.

Ash.J.Williams

lol

kneemos

Thank fcuk Bush the idiot is not there to deal with the Russians or we'd all be stockpiling canned foods.

c_man

kneemos wrote: »

Thank fcuk Bush the idiot is not there to deal with the Russians or we'd all be stockpiling canned foods.

What, like we did when Russia when to war with Georgia

131spanner

Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin tells the National Rifle Association what she would do to terrorists if she was in charge.

One nut-job talking to several nut-jobs. Was never going to end well :pac:

AnonoBoy

Baptism?

But a lot of the terrorists that hate America aren't even Christian!

I don't think she's thought this through at all.

harry Bailey esq

bumper234 wrote: »

Thank **** this idiot never made it to the whitehouse

http://news.sky.com/story/1250770/sarah-palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptise

That's like something Stan Smith would say!

Blured

I was fully sure when I clicked through this was going to be a Waterford Whispers thread

Ash.J.Williams

i actually adopted her mindset when i read it and it seemed fine!

InTheTrees

Just remember her if you ever think that US politicians are all alike, and thank god above that the Republicans didnt win the US election.

She may have sunk into the background a little but her branch of conservatives have almost completely taken over the republican party in the USA and the next General Election is in 2016 which means the Noise is going to be starting soon.

You'll be hearing more about these kind of people

gramar

The ultimate irony is that America has committed as many terrorist atrocities if not more than any of their supposed terroriest enemies.

Alf. A. Male

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition, yee har!

Bubbaclaus

That'll show them!!

Alf. A. Male

I took one for the team and read the whole thing. I can assure you the highlight is this bit; "Mrs Palin, who is reported to have said she is interested in running for the Senate in 2014, added that creating gun-free zones in schools and other public buildings was "stupid on steroids"."

Em, come again Sarah? You want the right to bring guns to school? Mudder a Gawd she's an idiot.

y0ssar1an22

gramar wrote: »

The ultimate irony is that America has committed as many terrorist atrocities if not more than any of their supposed terroriest enemies.

But their actions are in the interest of spreading democracy and preventing further terrorist attacks, therefore justified.

My name is URL

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

But their actions are in the interest of spreading democracy and preventing further terrorist attacks, therefore justified.

lol

Bubbaclaus

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

But their actions are in the interest of spreading democracy and preventing further terrorist attacks, therefore justified.

I assume this post was sarcastic.

InTheTrees

Alf. A. Male wrote: »

You want the right to bring guns to school? Mudder a Gawd she's an idiot.

The State Of Georgia just voted to allow guns in schools. Everywhere actually.

In Airports too. You can walk into Atalanta Airport, one of the busiest in the country, with a gun in a holster.

Cops can ask you if you have a permit but are not allowed to ask to see the permit.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-law-allows-georgia-residents-to-carry-guns-in-churches-schools-bars/

Dravokivich

Alf. A. Male wrote: »

I took one for the team and read the whole thing. I can assure you the highlight is this bit; "Mrs Palin, who is reported to have said she is interested in running for the Senate in 2014, added that creating gun-free zones in schools and other public buildings was "stupid on steroids"."

Em, come again Sarah? You want the right to bring guns to school? Mudder a Gawd she's an idiot.

The problem with high school shoot outs was never really due to anyone who legally owned said fire arms. So why would they obey an exclusion zone?

Saying something isn't allowed somewhere, isn't going to stop it from being used there.

It's not handling the problem at all, so it sort of is, "stupid on steroids."

mikom

All terrorists are born with original sin....

Guy:Incognito

Dravokivich wrote: »

The problem with high school shoot outs was never really due to anyone who legally owned said fire arms. So why would they obey an exclusion zone?

Saying something isn't allowed somewhere, isn't going to stop it from being used there.

It's not handling the problem at all, so it sort of is, "stupid on steroids."

Course it does, sure that's why no one ever gets shot in Ireland.

Zillah

She's so revolting. From the way she speaks to the way she implies that a terrorist is obviously not a christian. I hate her. Please don't make me see her face more in the run up to 2016.

gramar

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

But their actions are in the interest of spreading democracy and preventing further terrorist attacks, therefore justified.

To quote a line from a book in which you Yossarian are the main character
"That's some catch, that Catch-22"

Gyalist

InTheTrees wrote: »

You can walk into Atalanta Airport, one of the busiest in the country, with a gun in a holster.

No you can't. I'd imagine that the Carabinieri would take a dim view of any such behaviour.

Sunglasses Ron

As despicable as Palin is as a person, the US approach of being somewhat carte blanche in their interpretation of the law regarding treatment of Al Quaeda members has doubtless saved countless lives.

bumper234

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

As despicable as Palin is as a person, the US approach of being somewhat carte blanche in their interpretation of the law regarding treatment of Al Quaeda members has doubtless saved countless lives.

American lives maybe but you can be sure many innocent lives have been lost due to it also

InTheTrees

Gyalist wrote: »

No you can't. I'd imagine that the Carabinieri would take a dim view of any such behaviour.

Huh? What do you mean "no you cant"?? Did you read the link I posted? The law was passed last week, takes effect July 1st.

When they talk about "certain parts of airports" they mean the check in area before you go through "security".

And as I said, the cops can ask you if you a have permit but cannot ask to see it.

"Ellijay, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a wide-ranging gun bill into law Wednesday that has critics howling and proponents applauding.
House Bill 60, or the Safe Carry Protection Act of 2014 -- which opponents have nicknamed the "guns everywhere bill" -- specifies where Georgia residents can carry weapons. Included are provisions that allow residents who have concealed carry permits to take guns into some bars, churches, school zones, government buildings and certain parts of airports."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/us/georgia-governor-signs-gun-bill/

Sunglasses Ron

bumper234 wrote: »

American lives maybe but you can be sure many innocent lives have been lost due to it also

Innocent lives have been lost during terror interrogations?

Really?

Compared to how many that would have been lost in foiled attack plots?

bumper234

InTheTrees wrote: »

Huh? What do you mean "no you cant"?? Did you read the link I posted? The law was passed last week, takes effect July 1st.

When they talk about "certain parts of airports" they mean the check in area before you go through "security".

And as I said, the cops can ask you if you a have permit but cannot ask to see it.

"Ellijay, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a wide-ranging gun bill into law Wednesday that has critics howling and proponents applauding.
House Bill 60, or the Safe Carry Protection Act of 2014 -- which opponents have nicknamed the "guns everywhere bill" -- specifies where Georgia residents can carry weapons. Included are provisions that allow residents who have concealed carry permits to take guns into some bars, churches, school zones, government buildings and certain parts of airports."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/us/georgia-governor-signs-gun-bill/

You typed Atalanta instead of Atlanta so he picked up on your typo.

InTheTrees

bumper234 wrote: »

You typed Atalanta instead of Atlanta so he picked up on your typo.

I realise...

I guess he missed "The State Of Georgia" .

bumper234

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Innocent lives have been lost during terror interrogations?

Really?

Compared to how many that would have been lost in foiled attack plots?

I'm sure some have, You do know that someone in Pakistan or Afghanistan could accuse someone of being a terrorist and collect $5k? Are all of the "terrorists" in Guantanamo guilty? Oh wait they have had no trial so no one knows :rolleyes:

How many "foiled attacks" have there been?

Sunglasses Ron

bumper234 wrote: »

Are all of the "terrorists" in Guantanamo guilty? Oh wait they have had no trial so no one knows :rolleyes:

The vast majority of them are, yes. The vast majority of even those who have been released have failed to give a valid reason as to why they were in Afghanistan/ NW Pakistan so soon after 9/11, let alone the ones still inside.

How many "foiled attacks" have there been?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Failed_terrorist_attempts

Quite a few.

RandomName2

kneemos wrote: »

Thank fcuk Bush the idiot is not there to deal with the Russians or we'd all be stockpiling canned foods.

Bush got on quite well with Putin and even dealt with the Georgia-Russia war without escalation.

Obama is threatening armed action against Russia in relation to Ukraine.

Unbelievably I'd say it's a step backwards.

(Although being honest, Mc Cain would probably be a poor choice of person to negotiate with Putin! :P )

Son Of A Vidic

bumper234 wrote: »

Thank **** this idiot never made it to the whitehouse

Being an idiot is pretty much a mandatory criteria for getting to the White House. There are just greater and lesser scales of idiots. From the suck on my cigar Clinton, to the I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully Bush.

wes

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

As despicable as Palin is as a person, the US approach of being somewhat carte blanche in their interpretation of the law regarding treatment of Al Quaeda members has doubtless saved countless lives.

I would disagree, the fact that before the US invaded Iraq, Al Qaeada were basically non-existent there, and now where years later we still see regular terrorist attacks there. So I would venture that US policy has seen an increase in terrorism, and not a reduction, and thats just talking about Iraq.

wes

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

The vast majority of them are, yes. The vast majority of even those who have been released have failed to give a valid reason as to why they were in Afghanistan/ NW Pakistan so soon after 9/11, let alone the ones still inside.

Guilt has be to be proven, not innocence. The onus is on the accuser to provide proof, the US has failed spectacularly in that case. They don't even bother with capturing suspects now, they just blow them up and anyone who just so happen to be near by as well.

bumper234

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

The vast majority of them are, yes. The vast majority of even those who have been released have failed to give a valid reason as to why they were in Afghanistan/ NW Pakistan so soon after 9/11, let alone the ones still inside.

Want to show me the court cases where they were tried and convicted?

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Failed_terrorist_attempts


Quite a few.

Ah wiki.....lots of "Allegedly's" there





Yeah because America only targets those guilty terrorists right

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/21/turning_a_wedding_into_a_funeral

bumper234

RandomName2 wrote: »

Bush got on quite well with Putin and even dealt with the Georgia-Russia war without escalation.

Obama is threatening armed action against Russia in relation to Ukraine.

Unbelievably I'd say it's a step backwards.

(Although being honest, Mc Cain would probably be a poor choice of person to negotiate with Putin! :P )

Link please?

Ash.J.Williams

at least palin says it as it is! Obama thinks the same but hides behind diplomacy.

smelly sock

bumper234 wrote: »

I'm sure some have, You do know that someone in Pakistan or Afghanistan could accuse someone of being a terrorist and collect $5k? Are all of the "terrorists" in Guantanamo guilty? Oh wait they have had no trial so no one knows :rolleyes:

How many "foiled attacks" have there been?

To be fair after what happend to the states in 2001 you can understand the approach they take with these people.

If water boarding and other types of torcher manage to stop another 9/11 then surely some collateral is acceptable.

It's the civilised world (like ireland) that the Americans are trying to protect.

iForgetMyPW

It was bad for her to say that but what do you guys think they do suspected terrorist when interrogating them. They are hardly having a picnic with them are they

bumper234

iForgetMyPW wrote: »

It was bad for her to say that but what do you guys think they do suspected terrorist when interrogating them. They are hardly having a picnic with them are they

No but they commit war crimes by doing this and then preach to the rest of the world about human rights violations.

wes

iForgetMyPW wrote: »

It was bad for her to say that but what do you guys think they do suspected terrorist when interrogating them. They are hardly having a picnic with them are they

The operative word there is suspected, there just as likely to have picked up some bloke who pissed off some of there other locals, and they sold him out for the nice chunk of change the US offered for such information.

bumper234

smelly sock wrote: »

To be fair after what happend to the states in 2001 you can understand the approach they take with these people.

If water boarding and other types of torcher manage to stop another 9/11 then surely some collateral is acceptable.

It's the civilised world (like ireland) that the Americans are trying to protect.

Ireland?

You mean the country where not so long ago people were blowing up innocent men women and kids for their beliefs? Would it have been ok a few years ago for the British army to come to the Republic, kidnap someone, take them to another country and torture them for information? Would it be ok for them to do it now to catch dissident republicans?

iForgetMyPW

wes wrote: »

The operative word there is suspected, there just as likely to have picked up some bloke who pissed off some of there other locals, and they sold him out for the nice chunk of change the US offered for such information.

Yeah well **** happens


No but in all seriousness I doubt they would bring them to Guantanamo of a tip off alone. If someone give a tip off they would probably check them out, if all is good then they would leave them be. Don't you think they would know that people would give bogus tip offs on others for the award $$$.

bumper234

iForgetMyPW wrote: »

Yeah well **** happens


No but in all seriousness I doubt they would bring them to Guantanamo of a tip off alone. If someone give a tip off they would probably check them out, if all is good then they would leave them be. Don't you think they would know that people would give bogus tip offs on others for the award $$$.

So why have the people in Guantanamo right now, today, not been charged with a crime? Why have the US not had big show trials and had them convicted? I mean they must have the evidence right so why not convict them?

iForgetMyPW

bumper234 wrote: »

So why have the people in Guantanamo right now, today, not been charged with a crime? Why have the US not had big show trials and had them convicted? I mean they must have the evidence right so why not convict them?

I don't know you tell me..Maybe they enjoy torturing them in Guantanamo. Why would they want to keep someone who is innocent

bumper234

iForgetMyPW wrote: »

I don't know you tell me..Maybe they enjoy torturing them in Guantanamo. Why would they want to keep someone who is innocent

****ed if i know but then i'm not the one saying that they must have done something to be held there for ten years without a trial or access to a lawyer.

iForgetMyPW

bumper234 wrote: »

****ed if i know but then i'm not the one saying that they must have done something to be held there for ten years without a trial or access to a lawyer.

Maybe if there was a trial there would be pressure for them to be extradited. Also Guantanamois a secure facility so noting gets out, which means they can do what they like to prisoners. But if there was a trial I'm sure they would have to go to a normal jail which means no more torturing etc

bumper234

iForgetMyPW wrote: »

Maybe if there was a trial there would be pressure for them to be extradited. Also Guantanamois a secure facility so noting gets out, which means they can do what they like to prisoners. But if there was a trial I'm sure they would have to go to a normal jail which means no more torturing etc

So keep them on the island and keep torturing them? Do you not think after ten years they would have told all? Ten years without a trial or access to lawyers and then the US claims Russia/Iran/China/North Korea has terrible human rights records :rolleyes:

Nodin

iForgetMyPW wrote: »

I don't know you tell me..Maybe they enjoy torturing them in Guantanamo. Why would they want to keep someone who is innocent

...to avoid admitting they were wrong.