What Are You Drinking Thread? Good Friday edition

norrie rugger

On this most holy of days I an partaking in a fine O'Hara's Pale Ale.
Mmmmmm.... Sacrilegious

Pherekydes

Chardonnay.

White wine with steak! What would James Bond say? :eek:

jimd2

norrie rugger wrote: »

On this most holy of days I an partaking in a fine O'Hara's Pale Ale.
Mmmmmm.... Sacrilegious

In all honesty.....who cares?

Sulla Felix

jimd2 wrote: »

In all honesty.....who cares?

Like names and addresses or just an assertion that some exist? There probably isn't a thing in the world that no one cares about. :pac:

Anyway, g&t. Ale is for peasants.

efb

Jameson

FouxDaFaFa

I have no alcohol.

Send help.

PopePalpatine

Budweiser. I got shafted this year.

jimd2

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Like names and addresses or just an assertion that some exist? There probably isn't a thing in the world that no one cares about. :pac:

Anyway, g&t. Ale is for peasants.

Thinly disguised "look at me drinking on Good Friday, how cool is that?"

No one here cares what the OP is drinking today, yesterday or any day. Not sure why I am even wasting my time posting this.

norrie rugger

did someone forget to go to the off licence?
More a thinly veiled 'how stupid and pointless is this law'

norrie rugger

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Budweiser. I got shafted this year.

I would rather be praying ;-)

Kiwi in IE

jimd2 wrote: »

In all honesty.....who cares?

Out of the ten responses in the thread so far two of them are yours (20%), so evidently you care

robindch

I can report a glass of merlot, one of cabernet sauvignon and one temperanillo. Followed by one Murphy's and a second glass of cabernet.

Am currently taking one for the team, so to speak.

Kiwi in IE

robindch wrote: »

I can report a glass of merlot, one of cabernet sauvignon and one temperanillo. Followed by one Murphy's and a second glass of cabernet.

Am currently taking one for the team, so to speak.

Yes Merlot! And now I am dragging myself to an under 7's rugby match. I don't believe in devils, but if anything were going to convince me of their existence it would be Merlot!

shruikan2553

I was in the mood for some rekordelig but havent found anywhere the sells it in limerick. Could have just got it in the pub nearby but they are closed because someone decided they should be and wasnt asked why.

DominicKid

the amount of devils in this thread..

jimd2

norrie rugger wrote: »

did someone forget to go to the off licence?
More a thinly veiled 'how stupid and pointless is this law'

Ok, hope you enjoyed it.

jimd2

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Out of the ten responses in the thread so far two of them are yours (20%), so evidently you care

I couldn't care less who drinks what, it just seemed to be a stupid thread.

And, I did manage to purchase alcohol yesterday for me and my dad, so my comments don't relate to the rights and wrongs of drinking yesterday. But I wouldn't bore any of ye with the details of what we drank.

Pherekydes

DominicKid wrote: »

the amount of devils in this thread..

Number!

Kiwi in IE

jimd2 wrote: »

I couldn't care less who drinks what, it just seemed to be a stupid thread.

And, I did manage to purchase alcohol yesterday for me and my dad, so my comments don't relate to the rights and wrongs of drinking yesterday. But I wouldn't bore any of ye with the details of what we drank.

Fair enough. Unsure why you are so interested in a thread you find dreadfully boring though. Generally if I see a thread with a dead boring topic I simply ignore it and move on.

Sulla Felix

jimd2 wrote: »

I couldn't care less who drinks what, it just seemed to be a stupid thread.

And, I did manage to purchase alcohol yesterday for me and my dad, so my comments don't relate to the rights and wrongs of drinking yesterday. But I wouldn't bore any of ye with the details of what we drank.

You're just going to bore us with your faux outrage at the pointlessness of people taking part in a thread about it. A thread I might add, that no one is forcing you to partake in.

Other popular topics you may wish to snear at include our choice of pizza toppings and favorite biscuits.

norrie rugger

chocolate goldgrain for sure

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pbc_vloYRk

Galvasean

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Other popular topics you may wish to snear at include our choice of pizza toppings and favorite biscuits.

Now now, let's not say things we can't take back.

Went to a house party myself on Good Friday. Drank all sorts and ate lots of red meat. In fact, I, like a lot of people, probably drank considerably more on Good Friday than most Fridays. Damn reverse-psychology >_<

smacl

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Budweiser. I got shafted this year.

Whenever I'm trying to cut down on the beer I always put a few bud lite in the fridge. I feel the need for a beer, take a few glugs of bud lite, quickly change my mind and have a cup of tea instead.

As the add says, Bud Lite, like making love in a canoe.

Fúcking close to water

SmilingLurker

Had two beers at the leinster game, and myself and my wife finished a bottle of red that was open with cheese and crackers.

Fred Swanson

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PopePalpatine

How the fuck did you find 2 litres of beer for 90c?!

Fred Swanson

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rainbow kirby

Pubs in small country towns in Wales. Two pints for under a fiver.

robindch

That time of the year again.

Here's Joe's guide to Finding a Good Friday Beer from 2012. Sadly, still applicable in 2015.

http://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/5-ways-to-get-around-the-good-friday-alcohol-prohibition/34554

Joe wrote:

Traditionally, Good Friday is supposed to be one of the few days in Ireland when everyone abstains from the drink. Well, traditionally… While our parents, grandparents and great-grandparents hailed from an era when being a devout Catholic was a trait to be admired, the rest of us aren’t so pious if we’re being completely honest. Rather than flocking home to prepare ourselves for mass last night, the majority of us were flocking to the nearest off-licence so we could stock up on booze and make sure our Easter not only consisted of chocolate, but also a sneaky little tipple of an alcoholic beverage.

If you forgot to buy yourself some last night or if you just feel like being a bit adventurous there are some loopholes available to you today if you want to try and buy a drink somewhere. Here are five ways that you can get around the Good Friday Prohibition.

1. Travel somewhere: In 1927 the Intoxicating Liquor Act stated that alcohol could not be sold on Christmas Day, Good Friday and St Patrick’s Day. However, there is an exemption. Travelling is stressful and our Twenties counterparts realised this. So the sale of alcohol is banned everywhere today except in airport, ferry or railway station bars. Yes, you can go down to Connolly Station right now and have a drink – but you MUST have a ticket for a journey that is 40km or more on your person to avail of this loophole.

2. Attend a play: Get yourself to the Abbey Theatre and buy a ticket to see a play. Maybe you can indulge your cultured side with a bit of Oscar Wilde or W.B Yeats’ Cathleen ni Houlihan. Powerful stuff. As long as you have a theatre ticket and are within the walls of a playhouse, you can legally enjoy a glass of whiskey or a pint – to help all the culture go down nicely, of course.

3. Go back some dogs: Surprisingly enough, gambling isn’t illegal today and, perhaps also surprisingly, greyhound racing stadiums avail of the Good Friday loophole. Why not turn Good Friday into Great Friday by getting yourself to your nearest racetrack, having a flutter on the dogs and enjoy a nice cool pint? As long as you can prove that you paid your entrance fe and are actively gambling, you can’t be given out to for buying drink apparently. There are greyhound meetings tonight at Curraheen Park in Cork, Galway, Harold’s Cross in Dublin and Limerick. Surprisingly enough, gambling isn’t illegal today and, perhaps also surprisingly, greyhound racing stadiums avail of the Good Friday loophole. Why not turn Good Friday into Great Friday by getting yourself to your nearest racetrack, having a flutter on the dogs and enjoy a nice cool pint? As long as you can prove that you paid your entrance fe and are actively gambling, you can’t be given out to for buying drink apparently. There are greyhound meetings tonight at Curraheen Park, Galway, Harold’s Cross and Limerick

4. Book into a hotel: Book yourself and your missus into a hotel for the night. She’ll be delighted that you’ve treated her to a spontaneous night away in the lap of luxury, you’ll legally be able to buy alcohol from the bar downstairs because you’re a resident of the establishment. Sorted.

5. Rent a boat: There’s no law over international waters, so if you’re really, incredibly desperate for a drink rent a boat and sail out a bit until you’re halfway between England and Ireland. Crack open a can of alcohol and enjoy. The only problem with this plan is not only does it require an awful lot of effort, you’ll have to have previously bought your drink because telling an off-licence that you’ve just bought a boat will not make them hand over the booze.

So there you have it. A few prime ways to get around the Good Friday prohibition. Or, y’know, you could just try and abstain. If you choose to go cold turkey and stay away from the dark stuff today, we advise that you pay no attention to the news, because chances are they’ll be showing images of very jolly Americans celebrating New Beer's Eve today. Yes, it just happens that April 6th - or Good Friday this year - marked the beginning of the end of the American alcohol Prohibition. It's now affectionately known in America as "New Beer's Eve", because in the Thirties, people lined up outside pubs and breweries waiting until they could legally purchase beer at midnight. Yeah, you might not want to see all the fun they’re having in the States...

And if you do happen to go overboard a bit today - hopefully not literally, while in international waters - you should pay attention to what those kindly people at Drink Aware have been saying over the last few days. Their Easter Morning After message is over here.

robindch

And yiz can't even get a drink in the Kingdom after midnight either, sez a local bigwig at the behest of local police.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/bid-to-open-pub-on-good-friday-night-against-spirit-of-law-1.2161503

Irish Times wrote:

An application by a well known Tralee pub for a late night exemption on the night of Good Friday was refused by a District Court judge on Wednesday on the grounds it was against “the spirit” of the intoxicating liquor legislation. The Blasket Bar, Castle Street, Tralee, had applied for exemption for between 12 midnight and 2am on Saturday, April 4th next, a date described in court as “the night of Good Friday”, a day when all pubs are closed.

When the application was moved at Tralee District Court yesterday, Garda Insp Donal Ashe said “technically” there were no grounds for objecting, but gardaí were objecting because this was the night of Good Friday. Granting such an exemption would be “completely against the spirit of what was intended” in the legislation, the Garda felt, said Insp Ashe. Louis O’Connell, solicitor for the applicant, George Savage of the Blasket Bar, said when he lodged the application - along with three other exemption applications for the same bar on various dates in April, gardaí had indicated there would not be a problem.

The Blasket Bar (a popular bar in Tralee town centre) was a “ very well-known premises”. It was a well-run establishment and had just one previous conviction for an after-hours offence and this was two years ago, the solicitor said. Judge James O’Connor said: “The bottom line is, this is an exemption for Good Friday night. I am refusing it. It goes against the whole spirit of the legislation.”

Judge O’Connor granted the other exemptions applied for by Mr Savage. The exemptions were sought under various Intoxicating Liquor Acts: Section 12 of the 1962 Act, as amended by Section 5 of the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2000.

PopePalpatine

Ah balls, I was hoping that showing my Leap Card in Connolly Station's pub would be enough!

Fred Swanson

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Shrap

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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T'would add a bit to the price of a pint. Depends on how determined you are. I do feel sorry for you city dwellers on Good Friday. Gotta love the rural lock-ins

Edit: I'll be drinking whatever is on offer in the local shop - under the counter selling as per usual

efb

Friday, Diet coke, have been off drink for a while

Pherekydes

I have the remaining Carlsberg (from Xmas) chilling in the fridge.

Blowfish

Girlfriend has booked us into a restaurant that does BYOB on good Friday, so I'll probably be on the whiskey.

Hotblack Desiato

I always thought BYOB referred to wine, never considered bringing whiskey, but I like your moxie

That nonsense a couple of posts up. If the early hours of Saturday are 'still the night of good Friday' then that means the early hours of Friday are 'still Thursday night'. Can't have it both ways lads.

Yet again, we are promised 'next year, maybe' when it comes to repealing one of the most stupid, unnecessary and unwanted laws on the statute books. And yet again the catholic apologists are excusing it :mad:

It's a damn shame that the American War of Independence-era concept of Liberty never took hold on this island. The state should only restrict the freedom of individuals to the absolute minimum extent necessary to the running of an orderly society. Our 'independence' just changed an oppressor in London for another in Rome.

pauldla

Coffee. Wife has gone home for the Qing Ming (Tomb-sweeping) Festival, so I'm looking after the kids for the weekend.

Peregrinus

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Yet again, we are promised 'next year, maybe' when it comes to repealing one of the most stupid, unnecessary and unwanted laws on the statute books. And yet again the catholic apologists are excusing it :mad:

It's a damn shame that the American War of Independence-era concept of Liberty never took hold on this island. The state should only restrict the freedom of individuals to the absolute minimum extent necessary to the running of an orderly society. Our 'independence' just changed an oppressor in London for another in Rome.

It always amuses me how people like to present the Good Friday closing laws as instances of religious oppression and on this board, devoted as it is to promoting scepticism and critical thinking, the trope is never challenged or questioned.

The Intoxicating Liquor Act 1927 banned the sale of alcohol on Good Friday, St. Patrick's Day and Christmas Day. (The St. Patrick's Day ban was later lifted; the other two are still in force.) Slightly inconveniently for the poor-oppressed-us trope, the Catholic church doesn't forbid drinking on any of these days, and never has. Also slightly inconveniently, the Irish legislation was, apart from the inclusion of St. Patrick's day, a replication of existing British legislation, which had also been replicated in most of the (not very Catholic-dominated) Canadian provinces and Australian states, and in New Zealand. If anything, with respect to Christmas Day the traditional ant-Catholic criticism has been of encouraging festivity, conviviality, and excess. Whatever unites this three days and the legal restrictions on alcohol sale in various countries, it's not a censorious Catholic attitude to alcohol, or a general dominance of governments by the Catholic church.

What does unite them, though, is a history of persistent public drunkenness and public order problems - precisely the kind of social problem that, per Hotblack, a government concerned with "the running of an orderly society" should be concerned with. Now, you could reasonably debate whether a ban on alcohol sales is, or was ever, a useful, effective or justifiable response to the problem, but since that debate is no use when it comes to fostering a "poor Catholic-oppressed us" mentality, why bother to have it?

As for the "American War of Independence-era concept of liberty", can Hotblack really be unaware that, even as the Good Friday ban was being debated in Ireland, a much more sweeping ban was under discussion in the US, and that it was, in fact, adopted? It's not at all clear that claiming, or fondly imagining, that your ideals were shared by the proponents in the American War of Independence is a terribly effective protection against either social or legal puritanism.

pauldla

Peregrinus wrote: »

It always amuses me how people like to present the Good Friday closing laws as instances of religious oppression and on this board, devoted as it is to promoting scepticism and critical thinking, the trope is never challenged or questioned.

The Intoxicating Liquor Act 1927 banned the sale of alcohol on Good Friday, St. Patrick's Day and Christmas Day. (The St. Patrick's Day ban was later lifted; the other two are still in force.) Slightly inconveniently for the poor-oppressed-us trope, the Catholic church doesn't forbid drinking on any of these days, and never has. Also slightly inconveniently, the Irish legislation was, apart from the inclusion of St. Patrick's day, a replication of existing British legislation, which had also been replicated in most of the (not very Catholic-dominated) Canadian provinces and Australian states, and in New Zealand. If anything, with respect to Christmas Day the traditional ant-Catholic criticism has been of encouraging festivity, conviviality, and excess. Whatever unites this three days and the legal restrictions on alcohol sale in various countries, it's not a censorious Catholic attitude to alcohol, or a general dominance of governments by the Catholic church.

What does unite them, though, is a history of persistent public drunkenness and public order problems - precisely the kind of social problem that, per Hotblack, a government concerned with "the running of an orderly society" should be concerned with. Now, you could reasonably debate whether a ban on alcohol sales is, or was ever, a useful, effective or justifiable response to the problem, but since that debate is no use when it comes to fostering a "poor Catholic-oppressed us" mentality, why bother to have it?

As for the "American War of Independence-era concept of liberty", can Hotblack really be unaware that, even as the Good Friday ban was being debated in Ireland, a much more sweeping ban was under discussion in the US, and that it was, in fact, adopted? It's not at all clear that claiming, or fondly imagining, that your ideals were shared by the proponents in the American War of Independence is a terribly effective protection against either social or legal puritanism.

For 'Catholic' read 'Christian'; the Temperance movements in the above-mentioned territories were strongly Christian in origin and outlook, and saw themselves on a divine mission to rid the world (and the 'lower classes') of the blight of alcohol abuse, I believe. The Temperance movements gradually lost influence during the course of the 20th Century, and were finally all-but-finished by the end of WW2; except in strongly religious areas, of course (is there a broad correlation between 'dry counties' and religiosity in the US, for example?).


I'm still on the coffee.

Peregrinus

pauldla wrote: »

For 'Catholic' read 'Christian'; the Temperance movements in the above-mentioned territories were strongly Christian in origin and outlook, and saw themselves on a divine mission to rid the world (and the 'lower classes') of the blight of alcohol abuse, I believe . . .

Sure, but ridding society of "the blight of alcohol abuse" falls pretty squarely into the kind of social objective that, Hotblack concedes, is very much the proper concern of a government. Restrictive licensing laws aimed at controlling alcohol abuse are no more religious oppression than are, say, laws against assault or murder. Public drunkenness, assault and murder are all social evils of varying degrees of seriousness. They don't cease to be so merely because one or more religious traditions look on them with disfavour.

In any event, even if we establish that a social movement which has influences Irish legislation is heavily Protestant in origins and influence - which is the case for the temperance movement and its associated legislation - that's not really evidence which points towards Catholic dominance of Irish laws, is it? On the contrary, it suggests that Irish laws are open to influence from non-Catholic as well as from Catholic voices.

pauldla

Peregrinus wrote: »

Sure, but ridding society of "the blight of alcohol abuse" falls pretty squarely into the kind of social objective that, Hotblack concedes, is very much the proper concern of a government. Restrictive licensing laws aimed at controlling alcohol abuse are no more religious oppression than are, say, laws against assault or murder. Public drunkenness, assault and murder are all social evils of varying degrees of seriousness. They don't cease to be so merely because one or more religious traditions look on them with disfavour.

In any event, even if we establish that a social movement which has influences Irish legislation is heavily Protestant in origins and influence - which is the case for the temperance movement and its associated legislation - that's not really evidence which points towards Catholic dominance of Irish laws, is it? On the contrary, it suggests that Irish laws are open to influence from non-Catholic as well as from Catholic voices.

And governments do do that; they tax (oh how they tax; current taxes on alcohol can be dated back to the Crusades, if not earlier), they regulate, and so on. Pressure groups of a religious bent attempting to sway the law of the land to be more in line with their religious convictions is another kettle of fish entirely, is it not? Indeed, the Temperance movement may have done more harm than good, given the awful spectacle of the Six O'Clock Swill in Australia, and the results of Prohibition in the US.

As to the Irish experience, is it possible to point to the days that were singled out to be 'dry' and suggest that there was little to no Catholic impetus?

Peregrinus

pauldla wrote: »

And governments do do that; they tax (oh how they tax; current taxes on alcohol can be dated back to the Crusades, if not earlier), they regulate, and so on. Pressure groups of a religious bent attempting to sway the law of the land to be more in line with their religious convictions is another kettle of fish entirely, is it not? Indeed, the Temperance movement may have done more harm than good, given the awful spectacle of the Six O'Clock Swill in Australia, and the results of Prohibition in the US.

As to the Irish experience, is it possible to point to the days that were singled out to be 'dry' and suggest that there was little to no Catholic impetus?

Given that Catholicism doesn't itself treat those days as "dry", the impetus can only be indirect. What the days have in common is (a) they are all public holidays, and (b) they became so because of their religious significance (unlike, say, New Year's Day, or the August or October bank holidays). As a result the Catholic church may be particularly embarrassed by public drunkenness on those holidays, and might favour measures to reduce this. But if you really want to point to religious influence in all this, that influence is obviuosly manifested mainly in the fact that these days are holidays at all; the support for temperance measures on those days is pretty much a by-product.

But who wants to argue for fewer public holidays? And it goes against every instinct of the regulars on this board ever to canvass the possibility that religious influence on civic life could ever have an outcome that could be considered beneficial (like a public holiday). So (a) the role of religious belief in securing the holiday in the first place is never mentioned, but (b) the fact that, historically, some of those supporting temperance measures had a religious motivation is parlayed up into monstrous oppression through Rome Rule.

magicbastarder

Peregrinus wrote: »

Sure, but ridding society of "the blight of alcohol abuse"

an aside, but afaik, last year was the first year in the recent past where average irish alcohol consumption increased; it's now at 11l of alcohol per person per year, was over 14l about ten years ago.

i've seen it pointed out that the minimum price per unit proposal is a boon to the supermarkets, as it's not a tax, so it just drastically increases their profit margin on cheap booze.

Peregrinus

magicbastarder wrote: »

an aside, but afaik, last year was the first year in the recent past where average irish alcohol consumption increased; it's now at 11l of alcohol per person per year, was over 14l about ten years ago.

Well, yes, but 10 years ago it was pretty much at an all-time high, and anyone who quotes you a statistic based on a comparison with an all-time high, without mentioning that rather significant detail, has probably got an agenda. If your comparator year was 20 years ago, or 30 years, or 40 years, instead of 10 years ago, then the long-term trend over all those periods to date is upwards, not downwards. Basically, over the past fifty years or so alcohol consumption in Ireland has risen steadily (it was 4.82 l/head in 1960), peaked a little over 10 years ago, but still remains at what are historically very high levels.

(Of course, there's more to this than absolute consumption per head; patterns of consumption matter as well as the volume, as does the social context in which consumption occurs. But so long as we are looking at absolute consumption figures, the fact is that they remain at historically high levels.)

magicbastarder wrote: »

i've seen it pointed out that the minimum price per unit proposal is a boon to the supermarkets, as it's not a tax, so it just drastically increases their profit margin on cheap booze.

It may increase their profit margin, but it will presumably reduce their volume of sales, which I imagine is the objective. And if it reduces their volume enough, then their overall profits will fall, not rise.

(Not that, if the policy objective is to moderate the consumption of alcohol,the effect on supermarket profits matters, one way or the other.)

rainbow kirby

If I can recover a stomach for drink by then (was home last week for a family funeral, there was a little too much consumed and the thought of more booze is not very appealing) there will be a couple of quiet pints of ale with my OH. We're driving north for the Easter break.

PopePalpatine

The big problem of drinking for me has been goddamned stomach aches. I've tried Alka-Seltzer, deflatine tablets, drinking about a gallon of water and drinking a lot of coffee, but none have worked. I vaguely remember avoiding a stomach ache after eating a few bread rolls for breakfast while on a weekend break in Bremen, but that's never been repeated.

magicbastarder

Peregrinus wrote: »

It may increase their profit margin, but it will presumably reduce their volume of sales, which I imagine is the objective. And if it reduces their volume enough, then their overall profits will fall, not rise.

the example given was that tesco currently sell a bottle of vodka for €13, and the price would rise to €18 under this proposal; so if tesco currently make (figure plucked off the top of my head) €2 per bottle, their profit will rise to €7; that gives a lot of leeway for a drop in volume.

magicbastarder

in regards to the thread title, probably balvenie triple cask after a couple of yannaroddy porters from the kinnegar brewery.

robindch

magicbastarder wrote: »

[...] a couple of yannaroddy porters from the kinnegar brewery.

Not bad stuff, but unpronouncable - and therefore unorderable - after three or four of them.