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Bigger cf for long range varminting
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15-04-2014 10:22pm#1
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Had this all written out, was at something else, came back, then seen Cookimonsters post. Still i'm after writing it so posting it anyway.
Both the .243 and 25-06 are good rounds and well capable of doing what you want. As was said above the .223 would also do the job, but these two would do it "easier".
The .243 has it's Pros & some cons. It's a lighter recoil rifle (comparative weight rifles) has more readily available ammo in more variety (at least here). It'd be a better/more popular caliber to re-sell down the road. The selection of bullets are lighter than the 25-06 with max weight of around 100 gr.
The 25-06 is a 30-06 case necked down to 6.5 mm. It's a long action compared to the short action of the .243 (if that makes a difference to you). While the 25-06 is harder hitting it is not by a large amount. Maybe 300 - 400 ft/lb extra. It also does not shoot a whole lot flatter than the .243. Out to 300 yards they are very close and the 25-06 only holds a little over the .243 out to 500 yards. However it is among the flattest of the calibers available to us with the minimal amount of drop over anything from .243 up to .300 WinMag. That is taking into account the closest matching bullets for each caliber.
Other calibers to look at might include the 6.5x47, 6mm br, .260 Rem, but these are not easy to find ammo for, and not always in hunting bullets. IOW for target work they may be better than others, but when you stick a BT, soft nose bullet in it's not better than the 25-06 or .243 but is a hell of a lot more trouble to get ammo for.
Now the 22-250. This might be the caliber for you. While it's a lighter bullet than the .243 (6 mm) or the 26-06 (6.5 mm) it is about the flattest shooting round out there with ready supply of ammo. The 55 gr would drop about 20%+ less than any other round and in some cases up to 40% less. Wind drift would be more, but you are talking about 15% more drift which given it's flat shooting is not much. The 22-250 might also be the "easiest" option to get without needing a deer permission, but has the added benefit of being deer legal.
The only other flat shooting round i can think of would be the .220 swift. Very flat, possibly more so than the 22-250, and a well capable round. Just deer legal, mild recoil, but noisy as all hell without a mod.
Decisions, decisions, eh.
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Had this all written out, was at something else, came back, then seen Cookimonsters post. Still i'm after writing it so posting it anyway.
Both the .243 and 25-06 are good rounds and well capable of doing what you want. As was said above the .223 would also do the job, but these two would do it "easier".
The .243 has it's Pros & some cons. It's a lighter recoil rifle (comparative weight rifles) has more readily available ammo in more variety (at least here). It'd be a better/more popular caliber to re-sell down the road. The selection of bullets are lighter than the 25-06 with max weight of around 100 gr.
The 25-06 is a 30-06 case necked down to 6.5 mm. It's a long action compared to the short action of the .243 (if that makes a difference to you). While the 25-06 is harder hitting it is not by a large amount. Maybe 300 - 400 ft/lb extra. It also does not shoot a whole lot flatter than the .243. Out to 300 yards they are very close and the 25-06 only holds a little over the .243 out to 500 yards. However it is among the flattest of the calibers available to us with the minimal amount of drop over anything from .243 up to .300 WinMag. That is taking into account the closest matching bullets for each caliber.
Other calibers to look at might include the 6.5x47, 6mm br, .260 Rem, but these are not easy to find ammo for, and not always in hunting bullets. IOW for target work they may be better than others, but when you stick a BT, soft nose bullet in it's not better than the 25-06 or .243 but is a hell of a lot more trouble to get ammo for.
Now the 22-250. This might be the caliber for you. While it's a lighter bullet than the .243 (6 mm) or the 26-06 (6.5 mm) it is about the flattest shooting round out there with ready supply of ammo. The 55 gr would drop about 20%+ less than any other round and in some cases up to 40% less. Wind drift would be more, but you are talking about 15% more drift which given it's flat shooting is not much. The 22-250 might also be the "easiest" option to get without needing a deer permission, but has the added benefit of being deer legal.
The only other flat shooting round i can think of would be the .220 swift. Very flat, possibly more so than the 22-250, and a well capable round. Just deer legal, mild recoil, but noisy as all hell without a mod.
Agree on the 22-250, as I said to one the lads I think I've decided to downsize from the 243 idea. Much more suited to what I want really. When the time comes I'll invest in a deer calibre specifically for that. Only other thing, I do wild goats at times and I'm assuming the 22-250 is more than up to it? The 223 was fine but shot placement needed to be 100% accurate. But, foxing and long range magpies etc are my main quarry.
Decisions, decisions, eh.
Think I've decided to downsize the 243 idea to a 22-250. Agree, it's a much more suitable round for what I want it for. They are a light switch without a mod though and I didn't get an s on my last licence even though I applied0 -
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I cannot oversell the Sako A7. Much better than the Tikka, Remmie, and most others in and under it's price range. Better stock, action, performance. Really worth looking at if nothing else. This was mine.
As you can see the stock is much better than Tikka or Remmie. It has a soft, rubberised texture that prevent slipping even when wet. It is also well balanced and not "hollow feeling" like some other stock.
With a scope you have a light yet seriouslty accurate stalking rifle capable of one hole (100 yard) and clover leaf (200 yard) groups. It also loves 58gr V-max or 95 gr Federal Nosler.Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County
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That's a nice looking piece of kit cass. What kinda money they running at new? Thanks.I cannot oversell the Sako A7. Much better than the Tikka, Remmie, and most others in and under it's price range. Better stock, action, performance. Really worth looking at if nothing else. This was mine.
As you can see the stock is much better than Tikka or Remmie. It has a soft, rubberised texture that prevent slipping even when wet. It is also well balanced and not "hollow feeling" like some other stock.
With a scope you have a light yet seriouslty accurate stalking rifle capable of one hole (100 yard) and clover leaf (200 yard) groups. It also loves 58gr V-max or 95 gr Federal Nosler.0 -
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Last week my pal Graham turned up on the 100m range with his brand-new, out of the box but cleaned ready to shoot Tikka T3 in 6.5x55SE, with a nice 3-12 Leupold scope on top. He had with him a couple of boxes of Norma 120gr ammuntion with brown plastic tips. Not being a game-shooter [he obviously is] I'd never seen this before, and I watched, since I was one of the RCOs, as he got the rifle shooting to his satisfaction.
Meanwhile, I was hovering around like a crow on a road-kill waiting for him to throw away the Norma cases...
He gave me the last four rounds he had left to shoot, and handing over to another RCO, I let rip with Graham's nice new Tikka.
The target was the usual 1.5" Shoot-n-See.
The result was three bullets in one hole and the forth, my last shot, about half an inch away. All were and inch higher than the target, and slightly left, but then, it's not my rifle. Pics available to those clever enough to be able to post them, if required.
I was VERY impressed at how nicely the stock felt, and what a sweet round it is to shoot, especially with a good trigger that this one had.
If it was my 'thing', I would have no hesitation in taking this combination into the field, or onto the hill.
A lovely thing, and Graham's third Tikka T3, too - has a .223Rem and a .308Win as well.
tac
PS - I got the cases, too. 0 -
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Last week my pal Graham turned up on the 100m range with his brand-new, out of the box but cleaned ready to shoot Tikka T3 in 6.5x55SE, with a nice 3-12 Leupold scope on top. He had with him a couple of boxes of Norma 120gr ammuntion with brown plastic tips. Not being a game-shooter [he obviously is] I'd never seen this before, and I watched, since I was one of the RCOs, as he got the rifle shooting to his satisfaction.
Meanwhile, I was hovering around like a crow on a road-kill waiting for him to throw away the Norma cases...
He gave me the last four rounds he had left to shoot, and handing over to another RCO, I let rip with Graham's nice new Tikka.
The target was the usual 1.5" Shoot-n-See.
The result was three bullets in one hole and the forth, my last shot, about half an inch away. All were and inch higher than the target, and slightly left, but then, it's not my rifle. Pics available to those clever enough to be able to post them, if required.
I was VERY impressed at how nicely the stock felt, and what a sweet round it is to shoot, especially with a good trigger that this one had.
If it was my 'thing', I would have no hesitation in taking this combination into the field, or onto the hill.
A lovely thing, and Graham's third Tikka T3, too - has a .223Rem and a .308Win as well.
tac
PS - I got the cases, too.
Hi Tac, on real surprise ...the Norma 120 with the nosler heads are (IMO) the best ammo out there for the 6.5x55 .Excellent accuracy and great round for deer and foxes .
Regards ,Tomcat.0
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