Sleep

fr336

Anyone got some tips for the best quality sleep? Anything at all would be appreciated. I know stuff like exercise but what kind of exercise works best for you etc? Many thanks.

Hatfry

Magnesium citrate 30 mins before bed, you'll sleep like a rock.

fr336

Hatfry wrote: »

Magnesium citrate 30 mins before bed, you'll sleep like a rock.

Solidly? For how many hours?

Hatfry

fr336 wrote: »

Solidly? For how many hours?

I feel like I've been in a deep sleep for 10+ hours after a 7 hour sleep, I wake up wide awake, refreshed and relaxed. If I don't take it for a couple days I have **** sleeps and wake up late and lethargic.

fr336

Thanks Hatfry, been reading about on it and seems for a lot of people just the trick! If it goes well I might kind of owe you my life

BigProblem

Hatfry wrote: »

Magnesium citrate 30 mins before bed, you'll sleep like a rock.

where do you buy this? is it in a liquid form?

MrStuffins

Hatfry wrote: »

Magnesium citrate 30 mins before bed, you'll sleep like a rock.

Any difference between this and the regular "Magnesium" supplements i'd get anywhere?

runawaybishop

BigProblem wrote: »

where do you buy this? is it in a liquid form?

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/zinc-and-magnesium/10529513.html

fr336

BigProblem wrote: »

where do you buy this? is it in a liquid form?

After hearing that poster's advice I'm getting mine from Holland & Barrett, wouldn't buy off an unknown website.

runawaybishop

fr336 wrote: »

After hearing that poster's advice I'm getting mine from Holland & Barrett, wouldn't buy off an unknown website.

H+B are usually very expensive. Myprotein isn't an unknown website.

fr336

runawaybishop wrote: »

H+B are usually very expensive. Myprotein isn't an unknown website.

Sorry, I wasn't necessarily talking about that site. People can make up their own minds as to where to buy. I was talking about the original poster's advice btw.

fr336

Hatfry wrote: »

Magnesium citrate 30 mins before bed, you'll sleep like a rock.

Tried it. Had zero effect

gordongekko

fr336 wrote: »

Tried it. Had zero effect

have you something on your mind that's keeping you awake?

Stench Blossoms

I've been trying it this week as well and finding it fantastic.

CM24

Magnesium definitely gives you deeper sleeps and makes you feel tired a bit earlier. Sometimes it's devastating when you wake up and realise that your super vivid dreams weren't actually real! Other things I'v learned.

- Camomile/Tulsi tea help you unwind before bed.

- Make your room totally pitch black or wear a sleeping mask. Stop using laptops/phones with artificial light an hour or so before bed as apparently they trick your body into thinking it's still daytime.

- Don't have any caffeine after 3pm or so.

- Have your carbs towards the end of the day.

I work irregular hours and I think this is the biggest killer as it's really hard to get into a normal sleeping pattern. I end up having naps constantly and then not being tired at night.

fr336

CM24 wrote: »

Magnesium definitely gives you deeper sleeps and makes you feel tired a bit earlier.

Thanks for stating to me the exact opposite of what happens to me. No 'definitely' about it.

ETA: Sorry I retract the above comment

fr336

fr336 wrote: »

Thanks for stating to me the exact opposite of what happens to me. No 'definitely' about it.

How long did you try it for?

fr336

gvn wrote: »

How long did you try it for?

A day. Guess that may have been an out of turn reply based on this but still..if nothing substantial after a day I'd at least expect to see some sign..anything..that the Magnesium had some effect in terms of sleepiness, calm etc. Absolutely nothing.

fr336

fr336 wrote: »

A day. Guess that may have been an out of turn reply based on this but still..if nothing substantial after a day I'd at least expect to see some sign..anything..that the Magnesium had some effect in terms of sleepiness, calm etc. Absolutely nothing.

It took 3-4 days for me to notice a difference when taking it. Make sure to take it on an empty stomach around 30-60 minutes before going to bed, and use it for a week or so before coming to a conclusion.

fr336

gvn wrote: »

It took 3-4 days for me to notice a difference when taking it. Make sure to take it on an empty stomach around 30-60 minutes before going to bed, and use it for a week or so before coming to a conclusion.

Really? To notice any difference at all? Sorry, this is pure frustration, this thing is ruining my life.

The ones I got are these http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=246
They say they're ideally to be taken with a meal

Thanks for your help and sorry for my outburst

fr336

fr336 wrote: »

Really? To notice any difference at all? Sorry, this is pure frustration, this thing is ruining my life.

The ones I got are these http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=246
They say they're ideally to be taken with a meal

Thanks for your help and sorry for my outburst

Hmmm. I take a different supplement, admittedly—ZMA, which is just magnesium with zinc and vitamin B6—so perhaps the directions for use are different. With ZMA, 3 capsules in one go, which delivers 450mg of magnesium (as well as zinc etc.), is the recommended dosage, and the 3 capsules are to be taken 40-60 minutes before sleep on an empty stomach. Maybe someone who takes magnesium by itself can chime in. In any case, it's not a magic pill and if your sleep problems are great it might be useless.

fr336

gvn wrote: »

Hmmm. I take a different supplement, admittedly—ZMA, which is just magnesium with zinc and vitamin B6—so perhaps the directions for use are different. With ZMA, 3 capsules in one go, which delivers 450mg of magnesium (as well as zinc etc.), is the recommended dosage, and the 3 capsules are to be taken 40-60 minutes before sleep on an empty stomach. Maybe someone who takes magnesium by itself can chime in. In any case, it's not a magic pill and if your sleep problems are great it might be useless.

Yeah I may be expecting too much; it's all too easy to cling onto new 'solutions' when you're been in a rut for quite a while.

runawaybishop

H+B is only 100 mg, i take 450 myself and i find it great

These are what i have

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/zinc-and-magnesium/10529513.html

Frank Bullitt

ZMA is a good one as well, you get funky dreams from it though.

CM24

fr336 wrote: »

Thanks for stating to me the exact opposite of what happens to me. No 'definitely' about it.

ETA: Sorry I retract the above comment

My fault. I never stated how much to take. Around 400-500mg a little while before bed. 100mg is not enough. I take a zinc tablet with it. There's some reason for taking them both together but I can't remember what it is now. Don't take them with calcium or dairy as this reduces the absorption. Try taking the tablet every night for a week and I bet you'll notice the difference. It's hardly a big ask to take one little tablet a night.

funtime93

ZMA got me dreaming like a champion.Quality stuff.

tayto lover

Going to get some of this tomorrow.
It could be the answer to a prayer.
Have only slept 6 hours in 4 days.
Driving me mad.

fr336

tayto lover wrote: »

Going to get some of this tomorrow.
It could be the answer to a prayer.
Have only slept 6 hours in 4 days.
Driving me mad.

Get well soon, it literally drives you insane

Hatfry

fr336 wrote: »

Tried it. Had zero effect

What type did you try? And did you take a decent amount?

I use viridians "magnesium taurate".

runawaybishop

Gintonious wrote: »

ZMA is a good one as well, you get funky dreams from it though.

ZMA is just a brand name for zinc and magnesium

Hatfry

runawaybishop wrote: »

ZMA is just a brand name for zinc and magnesium

ZMA isn't a brand, it's a supplement containing zinc, magnesium and vitamin b6. One company does have the ZMA name trademarked though.

Alf Veedersane

So...it's pretty much what runawaybishop said.

mickman

not being able to sleep is a terrible thing - i suffer a bit from it myself but its not as bad as some people have stated on here.

I find , meditation before sleep and no more than 30 mins tv and it helps. Room and bed have to be right too as if im too warm then it will throw me off

runawaybishop

Hatfry wrote: »

ZMA isn't a brand, it's a supplement containing zinc, magnesium and vitamin b6. One company does have the ZMA name trademarked though.

ZMA is a brand name, anyone selling zinc+magnesium+b6 under that name is dong so under license to Balco labs.

fr336

mickman wrote: »

not being able to sleep is a terrible thing - i suffer a bit from it myself but its not as bad as some people have stated on here.

I find , meditation before sleep and no more than 30 mins tv and it helps. Room and bed have to be right too as if im too warm then it will throw me off

OP here - many thanks for the input, hope your own issues get better.