Things that annoy you about vaping

accaguest

Anything get on your wick still/currently with vaping?

The amount of tissues/kitchen paper everywhere is getting out of hand chez acca. Constantly wiping bits of juice off my fingers, bottles, devices and the little circles under my carts. Never without the stuff. Had a bit of an awkward moment the other day when someone did a double take after seeing my bedroom bin piled up with scrunched, sodden tissues. They didn't say anything, so I didn't either, as I had nothing to explain.

Thinking about walking around with a rag permanently on me now. Like an animal.

masonchat

all the above , lol at the bin , that and im getting embarrassed answering the door to the postman at this stage

Fratton Fred

It's just that, the juice is a pain in the swiss. Having to think ahead as well, making sure batteries are charged, tanks are filled etc

Also, why are there no 19mm ego/510 batteries to match a protank? Why did kanger not make it 22mm or make a battery to suit?

Dramatik

Waiting on juice that's steeping, I'll have the bottles bloody polished off by that stage...

MonstaMash

Inconsistency of juices, steeping of juices, charging batteries, shinyitis

jousting with chairs

Fasttech delivery time

Thargor

I miss the chatting out at the smoke shed at work since I went to ecigs then quit

Too late to go back now a drag of anything gives me a splitting headache. Im cycling and climbing the Wicklow mountains without the usual agony and its easier to get up in the morning now though.

accaguest

Haha, agree with all of the above.

Also my 'vaping face'. I still don't feel comfortable vaping in front of others/in public. Everything up to and after having it in my mouth is grand, but those four seconds where I stare into space and my cheeks look like I'm sucking the air out of a balloon still don't sit right. Marlon Brando I ain't.

Dramatik

I almost forgot, random people coming up to you and asking you for a go of your vaporizer, I don't want half the smoking area's spit in my vaporizer. I usually just tell them that I've got the flu

Sherfin

People who
"can't believe you're still "smoking" that over a year. Why don't you give it up?"
Duh!! I have no intention of "giving up". I enjoy my vaping thank you very much

and of course the tissues

robbie02

People telling me they are bad for you. no one ever said they were good for you just safer. if someone asks for a go of mine i am always happy to oblige if it encourages them to switch from tobacco, although i did get a nasty cold sore off one lad and he still smokes haha

Smacs89

Would probably have to be people saying "the stuff in that liquid is lethal, imagine drinking it"
Imagine drinking a bottle of nail polish or something along those lines, same thing.

dePeatrick

The one thing that annoys me most about vaping now is the current consensus that vaping is good, everything else is bad....this mantra is being repeated by most vapers and it makes them look silly tbh....there is loads of research to come out yet about vaping that will just not back up that pretty picture ....

A bit more responsibility on the part of vapers to see that what they are doing are not without their hazards instead of the "I'm all right Jack" attitude would go a long way towards the people who are anti-vaping warming a bit to it.......

Edit:I do think vaping is a way healthier alternative to smoking.....but let's not get carried away, it is not going to be as simple as that....!

jsabina

things that annoy me is

I loose all the bottle's cap and I have liquid in all my pockets/jacket
when I have to mix new liquid and I am lazy
the million of drip tip that I lost
when I forget where I left the e-cig
The 4 e-cigs that I lost during dog walks grrrr

etc..etc..etc.. :P

Fratton Fred

dePeatrick wrote: »

The one thing that annoys me most about vaping now is the current consensus that vaping is good, everything else is bad....this mantra is being repeated by most vapers and it makes them look silly tbh....there is loads of research to come out yet about vaping that will just not back up that pretty picture ....

A bit more responsibility on the part of vapers to see that what they are doing are not without their hazards instead of the "I'm all right Jack" attitude would go a long way towards the people who are anti-vaping warming a bit to it.......

Edit:I do think vaping is a way healthier alternative to smoking.....but let's not get carried away, it is not going to be as simple as that....!

When I explain it to a smoker, I describe it as reconciling yourself to the fact you are never going to give up. Until you can do that, keep trying.

It is no less addictive than smoking, just less harmful.

csi vegas

So many pains I should be medicated. Solved one of them recently by buying an eraser sponge, cut in some holes and presto - I got me a juice refilling station. Saves the mental meltdowns I was having trying to refill on tissues.

Also cotton wicks - they suck it up like a Dyson. Got me some cotton yarn to test out (as its like a ball of wool its stronger than cott pads so maybe will perform like silica/ecowool in ways, here's hoping...

grindle

Fratton Fred wrote: »

It is no less addictive than smoking

Maybe for you. For me and for many others it's far less addictive. Currently science is leaning that way as well, citing the lack of additives and MAOIs as the reason test animals haven't become addicted to nicotine in tests. They added things like cotinine, nornicotine and acetaldehyde to the mixture and all of a sudden rats were self-administering whereas they couldn't be bothered with nicotine on it's own despite experiencing the stimulant effects.

Thargor

grindle wrote: »

Maybe for you. For me and for many others it's far less addictive. Currently science is leaning that way as well, citing the lack of additives and MAOIs as the reason test animals haven't become addicted to nicotine in tests. They added things like cotinine, nornicotine and acetaldehyde to the mixture and all of a sudden rats were self-administering whereas they couldn't be bothered with nicotine on it's own despite experiencing the stimulant effects.

Personal anecdote from me but I was the same as those rats, heavy smoker since 13 or 14, gave up age 29 after switching to vaping for a year first because I found I just couldn't be bothered getting up from my desk at work to go down 3 flights of stairs for a puff, now I haven't inhaled nicotine in about 6 months.

CourierCollie

grindle wrote: »

Maybe for you. For me and for many others it's far less addictive. Currently science is leaning that way as well, citing the lack of additives and MAOIs as the reason test animals haven't become addicted to nicotine in tests. They added things like cotinine, nornicotine and acetaldehyde to the mixture and all of a sudden rats were self-administering whereas they couldn't be bothered with nicotine on it's own despite experiencing the stimulant effects.

Any links to those animal tests? Not disagreeing, just curious.

I'm only 5 weeks off real cigarettes, and I definitely feel a lot less addicted already. I was on 40 a day, so would rarely go for more than 20 minutes without a smoke. Not getting into a panic now if I don't have a vape for 2 hours or so.

grindle

On the phone at the moment but just Google 'acetaldehyde nicotine addictive' and you'll find plenty. It's been researched and confirmed multiple times since the early 90's which poo-poos mongoloid (or "ill-educated") notions that nicotine is the most addictive drug on the planet. And that's just one chemical by-product of the sugar added to tobacco and added separately itself.
The other alkaloids increase the amount of nicotine absorbed into the bloodstream by increasing the pH as well as pulling back on the dopamine released which causes a push-and-pull on administering. Harder to maintain the levels of a drug when you've something pulling against it, probably like taking ecstasy and two benzos at the same time.
Or, you know, maybe the antis are right and all the available science is wrong and ZOMG NIC BE EVIN WURSERER DEN HEROIN!
I would fully say I'm not craven to nicotine at all these days but I love it's effect. I have more of a biscuit addiction at the moment. FRICKIN SUGAR! AND BUTTER. So damn tasty. GAH! Those all-butter cookies with white chocolate and cranberry...sweet Jesus.

dePeatrick

grindle wrote: »

Maybe for you. For me and for many others it's far less addictive. Currently science is leaning that way as well, citing the lack of additives and MAOIs as the reason test animals haven't become addicted to nicotine in tests. They added things like cotinine, nornicotine and acetaldehyde to the mixture and all of a sudden rats were self-administering whereas they couldn't be bothered with nicotine on it's own despite experiencing the stimulant effects.

Yes, this is the reality of nicotine addiction, and then there is the make-up of the person themselves, their personality type, their genetic characteristics......

The only thing that us not as variable I'd the make-of the fluids we use, there are still serious questions to be answered about NET's and Diacetyl, and I can see more being added to this list. Sticking our collective heads in the sand about these may keep the antis at bay but it also slows down anything being done about it in the industry.

This will only result in someone taking legal action against a vendor and then the government will step in and probably ban everything.

Edit: On second thoughts the government won't ban everything, they will tut tut and regulate and tax the living day lights out of juices. Lots of rumbling about 75-95% taxes in the US.

F-Stop

The thing that annoys me most about vaping is that I still can't quit cigarettes. I know that's not vaping's fault, it's mine, but I'm becoming totally demoralised. I have been using a decent set up for about 6 weeks now, but hardly touched it in the last week and have been smoking more than ever. This is totally between myself and smokes, I know. The bastards have spent decades designing cigarettes to be the most efficient nicotine delivery system and I have found it impossible to get the same satisfaction from vaping. For me, that's been the most annoying thing about vaping.

dePeatrick

What liquid are you vaping...?

Edit: And what device/atomiser/clearomiser are you using.....also what strenght of liquid....

Sorry for so many questions, but these are important......

debabyjesus

Recently I'm getting that flem-y mucus in the throat that I just can't hack out of there. It feels like I'm smoking 20 fags a day. I gave fags up 3-4 years ago and smoked the odd cigar during that period but started to get heavy on them. Cigars didnt make me flemy and blocked up at all. I gave up the tobacco altogether for vaping about 3 months now.

I vape dekang usa mix 18mg. I tried a few others tobacco flavours like vaperus tobacco but it was rank. Ry4 something which was grand. I also tried apple, strawberry etc which very nice the first few times but quickly got old and sickly tasting.

Should vaping be making me flemy or is it down to the liquid choice?

accaguest

F-Stop wrote: »

The thing that annoys me most about vaping is that I still can't quit cigarettes. I know that's not vaping's fault, it's mine, but I'm becoming totally demoralised. I have been using a decent set up for about 6 weeks now, but hardly touched it in the last week and have been smoking more than ever. This is totally between myself and smokes, I know. The bastards have spent decades designing cigarettes to be the most efficient nicotine delivery system and I have found it impossible to get the same satisfaction from vaping. For me, that's been the most annoying thing about vaping.

I'm the opposite, coming up to 4 months off a serious habit and I haven't been able to 'treat' myself to a cigarette once. Actually got me a bit down tbh, was looking forward to them each time. Last one I tried tasted like it had been half smoked and left in an ashtray overnight (which I had would have had little problem with on hungover Sunday mornings in the past being honest).

Not very helpful, sorry. Have you given yourself say 2 weeks without so much as a drag off a fag yet? Just pound into the ecig for that time, get different flavours, clearomizers, just keep changing it up. You might then find it hard to have a real cig? Someone I turned onto ecigs can still smoke, I just can't. If I walk into a room where somone had a fag two hours ago it knocks me back, yet I think my ecig doesn't smell, which judging from other people's reactions doesn't seem to be the case.

Mr. Chrome

Sounds kinda daft when I think about it but when I started vaping I kept telling myself that I was just changing cigarette brands....marlboro lights were no longer available and I had no choice but to stick with the new brand (vaping), took a while but it worked for me.

dePeatrick

debabyjesus wrote: »

Recently I'm getting that flem-y mucus in the throat that I just can't hack out of there. It feels like I'm smoking 20 fags a day. I gave fags up 3-4 years ago and smoked the odd cigar during that period but started to get heavy on them. Cigars didnt make me flemy and blocked up at all. I gave up the tobacco altogether for vaping about 3 months now.

I vape dekang usa mix 18mg. I tried a few others tobacco flavours like vaperus tobacco but it was rank. Ry4 something which was grand. I also tried apple, strawberry etc which very nice the first few times but quickly got old and sickly tasting.

Should vaping be making me flemy or is it down to the liquid choice?

It seems that. retain flavours in liquids may cause lung problems in some people, make a careful note of what liquids make you feel this way and post your results on here, I for one want to know....:)

accaguest

I changed to cartomizers from clearomizers and it got rid of the slimy throat feeling. It's not a common solution but worked for me, could be worth trying. I just mindlessly vape with them for hours, all round much milder experience. Sometimes it's like fresh air

Mr. Chrome

Been using dekang usa mix 12mg for almost 2.5 years now exclusively and haven't had a problem, but thats not to say some ingredient in it doesn't agree with you.

dePeatrick

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Been using dekang usa mix 12mg for almost 2.5 years now exclusively and haven't had a problem, but thats not to say some ingredient in it doesn't agree with you.

I love the USA mix but honestly don't know whether I have had the dekang, possibly under a different name.....thanks for that, am going to check out dekang next....:)

Mr. Chrome

I kept buying different juices because I felt I was missing out on something but I kept returning to dekang. A while back I started adding a tiny bit of liqua vanilla to sweeten it and now thats my all day, everyday vape.

dePeatrick

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

I kept buying different juices because I felt I was missing out on something but I kept returning to dekang. A while back I started adding a tiny bit of liqua vanilla to sweeten it and now thats my all day, everyday vape.

Gotcha on that one....I keep adding a sweet flavour to a tobacco one just to get it quite right....Ha ha haaaa..... I think we have the sane taste in liquids.....:)

Edit: meant sane to read same but sane works too.....:)

dePeatrick

dePeatrick wrote: »

Gotcha on that one....I keep adding a sweet flavour to a tobacco one just to get it quite right....Ha ha haaaa..... I think we have the sane taste in liquids.....:)

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Eff Four

Tissues and ear buds! The postman is now considering vaping after delivering supplies to my house every four days for months! My 3 and a half year old son thinks Mammy carries a pencil with her everywhere

But honestly, the most annoying thing to me right now is the consistency of juices. Buy 10ml, fall in love, buy 30ml, tastes like crap no matter what I do. Look for a new all day vape. Stock up and be happy for two weeks. It's now out of stock everywhere that can deliver it before I run out. I don't have a lot of money to throw at supplies at a time and that isn't very vaping-friendly in my experience.

RossFixxxed

Vaping AND smoking. It's like a non stop nicotine roller coaster. It's a dreadful idea and it really is making me MORE addicted than ever. I'm having 3 one day then 20 another day and back and forth.

It's not a problem with vaping, it's a problem HOW I'M vaping!

dball

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Sounds kinda daft when I think about it but when I started vaping I kept telling myself that I was just changing cigarette brands....marlboro lights were no longer available and I had no choice but to stick with the new brand (vaping), took a while but it worked for me.

exactly what i told myself - its like when you go away and the Marlboro lights taste a little different - (i just pretended i was in Spain) that was easy last summer - but it worked:)

RossFixxxed

dball wrote: »

exactly what i told myself - its like when you go away and the Marlboro lights taste a little different - (i just pretended i was in Spain) that was easy last summer - but it worked:)

It's a great idea. I read the post about that and thought... that's too easy, surely... wait that's a brilliant idea!

I'm on it!

Going Forward

The way my ecig falls out of my breast pocket when i bend forward.

The fragility of everything.

Can we have a sturdy folding ecig please?!

Shinobollo

Going Forward wrote: »

The way my ecig falls out of my breast pocket when i bend forward.

The fragility of everything.

Can we have a sturdy folding ecig please?!

How about an itaste vtr or something like this maybe...

http://shop.nhaler.com/Telescopic-Folding-E-Pipe-tpipe.htm

jambofc

leak leak leak leak leak leak......tissue's

OldMrBrennan83

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platinums

Sherfin wrote: »

People who
"can't believe you're still "smoking" that over a year. Why don't you give it up?"
Duh!! I have no intention of "giving up". I enjoy my vaping thank you very much
and of course the tissues

Makes me want a "no, this is not a nicorette" Tshirt.
Vapin 4 life homee:pac:

Setting up a microcoil 20 minutes.. heating and tweezing together 10 minutes...adding juice and waiting to soak, 5 minutes. realising the first leg is out and burning... no its not epic its fawking annoying.

robbie02

When you put down your vaporizer somewhere and forget were you have put it! or when you break it or lose it when you are on a night out that is truly maddening

dePeatrick

robbie02 wrote: »

When you put down your vaporizer somewhere and forget were you have put it! or when you break it or lose it when you are on a night out that is truly maddening

Looking for one of mine for the last three hours.....sheesh....and have to go soon.....:p

accaguest

Also;

That I can't get everything I want from one shop, causing me to pay more in postage fees. One will have the best nicotine, one the best carts, one the best prices etc. A tricky operation to be as tight as I would like.

That DIYing from concentrates is so easy and cost effective. I don't even consider buying premade juices anymore and I'm sure I'm missing out. Hundreds of well liked brands and flavours I'll probably never try.

That it never, ever ends.

Samba

dePeatrick wrote: »

The one thing that annoys me most about vaping now is the current consensus that vaping is good, everything else is bad....this mantra is being repeated by most vapers and it makes them look silly tbh....there is loads of research to come out yet about vaping that will just not back up that pretty picture ....

A bit more responsibility on the part of vapers to see that what they are doing are not without their hazards instead of the "I'm all right Jack" attitude would go a long way towards the people who are anti-vaping warming a bit to it.......

Edit:I do think vaping is a way healthier alternative to smoking.....but let's not get carried away, it is not going to be as simple as that....!

Flavourings are the biggest unknowns with regards vaping, anyone who believes it's "healthy" clearly has their head buried in the sand. I hate the term healthy/healthier alternative to smoking (there's nothing healthy about smoking!), it's a safer alternative imho and it's about harm reduction. Healthier alternative comes off like an old Guinness advert and implies the product is making you healthy, but it's not it's just your body repairing itself from all the damage done from smoking.

It's sad that regulators are fixating on nicotine and doing next to nothing to address these concerns.

By the same token, I think it's irresponsible to scare-monger without any factual basis other than anecdotal evidence. (cough NETS :P)

I already know your position on NETS (i treat them like cigars myself, I enjoy them every now and again) I know a few people who vaped nothing but NETS for a long long time and they didn't report the smokers cough you seem to get from them, you know it's possible you had a mild allergic reaction to some of the ingredients, just saying, keep an open mind too.

You could very well be absolutely right about them, I don't know to be perfectly honest and until I see data to support this view I'm keeping an open mind, as much as your own personal experience does concern me somewhat.

I'm eagerly awaiting the results of Farsalino's juice study, if the worst case transpires and your suspicions are confirmed, it's going to be flavourless juice from here on in for me.

/Back on topic...

Inconsistent hardware - It's tilting and it annoys me even more than ignorant smokers trying to educate me on the evils of vaping.

grindle

Samba wrote: »

I hate the term healthy/healthier alternative to smoking (there's nothing healthy about smoking!), it's a safer alternative imho and it's about harm reduction. Healthier alternative comes off like an old Guinness advert and implies the product is making you healthy, but it's not it's just your body repairing itself from all the damage done from smoking.

Healthier and safer are practical synonyms. 'Healthier' sounds like "if you use 'this' instead of 'that', you will be choosing the healthier option" i.e. safer, not become healthier than if you had nothing at all. At least that's how I interpret words that have '-er' or '-ier' tacked on to them.
I'd might be hornier at some times rather than others but that doesn't make me the horniest human on the planet (although I am willing to participate in "tests" to share "data").

Samba wrote: »

I already know your position on NETS...
...
I'm eagerly awaiting the results of Farsalino's juice study, if the worst case transpires and your suspicions are confirmed, it's going to be flavourless juice from here on in for me.

Farsalinos put this to rest on VVTV the week after he showed those HoL results, the ones that got dePeatrick in a tizzy - he categorically stated it wasn't because they were NETs (as juices that weren't NETs had similar results), it was about an ingredient in the supply chain that he suspected many juices around the world were using, hence the wide-reaching tests. He's also giving the producers the chance to change their supply or be shamed afterwards so there won't be a witch-hunt based on something innocent like buying improperly prepared PG or VG from one of the giant companies that produces them.

Shame that, I know some around here like a good witch-hunt. :pac:

Samba

grindle wrote: »

Healthier and safer are practical synonyms. 'Healthier' sounds like "if you use 'this' instead of 'that', you will be choosing the healthier option" i.e. safer, not become healthier than if you had nothing at all. At least that's how I interpret words that have '-er' or '-ier' tacked on to them.

I know, perhaps I should have said "could imply to some", but I just prefer the use of the word safer when it comes to describing it, there's no room for misinterpretation due to a lesser understanding of the language.

grindle wrote: »

Farsalinos put this to rest on VVTV the week after he showed those HoL results, the ones that got dePeatrick in a tizzy - he categorically stated it wasn't because they were NETs (as juices that weren't NETs had similar results), it was about an ingredient in the supply chain that he suspected many juices around the world were using, hence the wide-reaching tests. He's also giving the producers the chance to change their supply or be shamed afterwards so there won't be a witch-hunt based on something innocent like buying improperly prepared PG or VG from one of the giant companies that produces them.

I've already pointed this out to him on another thread. I should have been more specific (I type too fast) but I was also referring to his suspicions regarding general flavourings and diacetyl. In fairness i think it's a genuine concern that shouldn't be dismissed or ignored by vapers. The studies monster within me is always hungry for more data.

grindle wrote: »

Shame that, I know some around here like a good witch-hunt. :pac:

Hehe, who doesn't enjoy a good witch hunt every now and again? It's usually best to get your facts right before you embark on them though.

dePeatrick

Do you have a link to that? It may not be NETs specifically but something added to flavour them....Diactyl and several other chemicals added are worrying to say the least.

Refusing to face the facts about the negative sides of eCigs is allowing vendors to continue on selling liquids that contain Chemicals that more and more vapers are refusing to use.

I am only vaping VG/PG 80/20 now with only nicotine and menthol added until I get time to go through all the flavours etc and see exactly what is safe and what is not safe to vape.

Samba

dePeatrick wrote: »

Do you have a link to that?

I'm too busy at the moment to go sifting through my post history and vapor trails, but I believe I linked you to the interview, perhaps you could go through your own posts to find it. I'll have a look later otherwise.

Neil_Sedaka

The general public.