H1Z1

dunner515

H1Z1 is a post-apocalyptic MMO from Sony Online Entertainment that will be coming out

H1Z1

[URL="[url]http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/9/5598202/h1z1-zombie-mmo-sony-online-entertainment[/url]"]Polygon[/URL]

Reddit

Exclusive H1Z1 Footage on GameTalkLive: Twitch TV

SeantheMan

Lazy homepage, a creepy background with a link to Reddit.

I'll have to wait for actual gameplay footage before I get excited.

Gandalph

As long as it isn't the zombies making the game and a little effort put in it should be enjoyable, never played Day-Z but would love another zombie MMO

Zero-Cool

Excellent! Could never play Day-Z on crappy laptop, was mad for a post apocalyptic survival game on PS4 and this sounds class. Early days yet but will be keeping my eye on it.

They say 200 people can play in the one instance of game, you can form roving gangs, take over an empty warehouse to make your HQ or build a house from collecting resources.

Zero-Cool

The Reddit link above isn't working for me, here is one I found, devs answering as much questions as they can. Also mentioned that 'anyone' can play within 4-6 weeks. I'm guessing this is the $20 beta entry before it reaches final stage and becomes F2P. I'll definitely be joining the beta.

http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/

MajesticDonkey

sheehy83 wrote: »

Excellent! Could never play Day-Z on crappy laptop, was mad for a post apocalyptic survival game on PS4 and this sounds class. Early days yet but will be keeping my eye on it.

They say 200 people can play in the one instance of game, you can form roving gangs, take over an empty warehouse to make your HQ or build a house from collecting resources.

2000, actually.

Zero-Cool

MajesticDonkey wrote: »

2000, actually.

Ah shyte, that's what I meant to type

kevovek

If its going to be F2P anyway shouldn't the early access/Beta be free as well?

MajesticDonkey

kevovek wrote: »

If its going to be F2P anyway shouldn't the early access/Beta be free as well?

Not really. If you don't want to pay anything just wait until it's fully released.

McSasquatch

I'd like to see more role-playing elements in games of this type - in particular, specialising of skill-sets. Give players a reason to spare other's lives, trade with them, form alliances etc. Food and munitions can be taken from a corpse, but you can't kill someone and then take their medical training, tracking skills, vehicle maintenance know-how, building skills etc. Meh, not a complaint of this or any other specific game - just something I'd like to see for the sake of realism.

Cravez

According to Reddit there won't be any skills/character progressions.

Grumpypants

To be honest I will prob get it with the same hopes I had going into Day Z and Rust that it would actually do what it promises but I am sure it will be just a load of idiots killing me for a can of beans.

But I do like the idea of building your stable base and then having to go out and gather things.

C14N

SeantheMan wrote: »

Lazy homepage, a creepy background with a link to Reddit.

I'll have to wait for actual gameplay footage before I get excited.

Scared the **** out of me though

Pixelbastardo

kevovek wrote: »

If its going to be F2P anyway shouldn't the early access/Beta be free as well?

Yeah, its crazy if you think about it. People being charged to help test a game, a Free2Play game at that..

FlyingIrishMan

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Yeah, its crazy if you think about it. People being charged to help test a game, a Free2Play game at that..

It's what they did for landmark too. It's just so they have some quality testers rather than hundreds of thousands of people who will just complain about everything and not understand what an alpha is. If you're not that interested, wait until it's F2P.

Zero-Cool

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

It's what they did for landmark too. It's just so they have some quality testers rather than hundreds of thousands of people who will just complain about everything and not understand what an alpha is. If you're not that interested, wait until it's F2P.

Agreed, I see it as helping fund/test and early access to an interesting project.

Pixelbastardo

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

It's what they did for landmark too. It's just so they have some quality testers rather than hundreds of thousands of people who will just complain about everything and not understand what an alpha is. If you're not that interested, wait until it's F2P.

Quality testers ?, just because someone pays 20e doesn't mean their more qualified to test a game over the next person. And there could be hundreds of thousands of testers who buy into the game in the first week..
And about people complaining about everything even though its an alpha, you think it will be any different because theres a entry fee ? Look at dayZ.

Im extremely interested in this game though, and will most probably get it launch week, depending on how playable a state its in, considering its alpha. But it reeks abit of cash grab to charge people to test their f2p game.

edit,
id rather just pay 30 to 60e for the game with all content updates free, screw the f2p model with micro transactions. a f2p game that you have to pay to test. bs

Magill

Guessing its going to be released on PC first ? then ported over to PS4 like how they're doing Planetside ?

Glad that a big developer like SOE are making a game like this tho, the biggest problem with rust and dayz imo is that the development teams are quite small and simply struggle to implement a lot of the ideas that they talk about. At least with this game they seem to have good support and obviously have a top class Engine to work with. Good news for PS4 owners tho, hopefully it turns out well.

ktulu123

Interested in this one myself, the Planetside 2 Engine is awesome, so looking forward to seeing what they do with it. The dev's seem to be very open minded as regards monetizing the game. They have a thread on Reddit looking for opinions & options:

http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/comments/22p8rc/monetization_in_h1z1/

I'd say the biggest factor setting this apart from the usual survival game is that SOE are behind it. With their engine, experience & money this should HOPEFULLY be decent.

Also one of the dev's was on a stream the other night answering questions. Here's a summary:

Summary:
When Dying, loot stays at death location.
They are still figuring out the tech so they dont know how big they can get it.
They will slowly make the map bigger throughout updates.
take place in "Anywhere, America" Midwest/East Coast US
fresh spawns are essentially just civilians
Combat: a lot like hard recoil - via CS:GO
reticle/sights will stay where the recoil put them. you have to compensate after every shot.
FOV slider confirmed
trying to make sure that aiming is difficult in both first person and third person mode.
wildlife and hunting confirmed
Wolves and Deer exist
they actually have a problem right now where the wolves kept killing all the deer and are trying to find a balance there, so there will be like a circle of life.
Wildlife and Zombies can interact in the same way, zombies vs wolves naturally
it will still be alpha when we get into it.
The alpha will be more of a way to find what will be fun, what to add and stuff, and beta will be where the bug hunt happens.
server player amounts not determined yet
types of servers still being determined, as in PvE focused Servers or vice versa
still playing with loot. doing it like the DayZ mod where it'll respawn in randomish intervals.
the goal is massive amount of massively sized servers, but will start with a few massive servers
big issue is how to get around things like stream hunting because there will probably be less servers than most
going for modern guns, going for realistic gun spawns based on location. some places(the south) could totally have a lot of guns in the houses, where the opposite could be true in other places
right now there is both med packs and healing based on eating
working on the bodily harm/injuries system
crafting bandages can be found and crafted, saline bags were just added
rust level crafting is "the goal"
they are working on getting a bow and arrow in there.
ATM cars are just kind of there in full condition, but they could easily add the "this car is missing ______ component(s)" system
Character customization is very basic ATM, will expand later, should be easy to expand.
Anti-Cheat is transferring over from Planetside 2, and is very successful over there.
Dynamic weather is being added. rain is just getting to the point of actually making the ground wet, character shining a bit, bushes wet, etc.
containers and inventory system can be complicated: how to present it in the UI, how many default spots on spawn, how many to have on different clothes/gear
debating how hard it should be to switch guns, ie: carry 3 guns at all times, or multiple clicks and in inventory management just to swap from one gun to another.
debating on equipment weight being accounted for, can be tricky, must feel right.
again, fun is a main concern here
proximity chat confirmed
has whole Planetside 2 back-end, so they can add components from that very easily
still debating how playing with friends will work, sending an invite that needs to be confirmed so you can see where our friends are.
arson is gonna be a thing. needs to be figured out still though.
Performance is the #2 priority behind fun. Taking it VERY seriously
not sure if suicide will be an option
too early to tell if Mac version will be a thing. might make it if there is demand.
unsure if planting crops is going to be in it.
feedback will be a huge factor, this sub will be pivotal.
it is surprising how short the development cycle has been so far.
micro-transactions will never directly effect PvP combat. probably not even things like bandages will be buy-able.
craftables/ingredients/anything gatherable will probably not be buy-able.
biggest thing ATM is just getting the game to a stable, playable state
micros could be things like boosts in things happening, like in PS2
definitely working on getting around the combat logging problem
trees destructible, best tree destruction, ie getting them to fall when chopped down
live stream of current build next week, possibly monday, the 14th.
early access via steam roughly 4-6 weeks from now for $20
small, 20-ish man dev-team
day night cycle. it is accelerated.
not sure how climate will be handled when game becomes as big as it could be
placing items uses physics(PhysX?)
ragdoll bodies confirmed.
possible feature: pissing and ****ting
air vehicles are possible(the engine) but not sure if it will be there in the end
PS4 version is pretty much confirmed.
official H1Z1 twitter: h1z1game[1]
link to the archive of the stream: http://www.twitch.tv/lirik/b/518664532[2] , starts at about 2 hours, 11 minutes, 30 secs.

Magill

Wildlife and Zombies can interact in the same way, zombies vs wolves naturally

This game is going to be the best....

FlyingIrishMan

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Quality testers ?, just because someone pays 20e doesn't mean their more qualified to test a game over the next person. And there could be hundreds of thousands of testers who buy into the game in the first week..
And about people complaining about everything even though its an alpha, you think it will be any different because theres a entry fee ? Look at dayZ.

Im extremely interested in this game though, and will most probably get it launch week, depending on how playable a state its in, considering its alpha. But it reeks abit of cash grab to charge people to test their f2p game.

edit,
id rather just pay 30 to 60e for the game with all content updates free, screw the f2p model with micro transactions. a f2p game that you have to pay to test. bs

Quality doesn't mean qualified. It means high standard.
There could very well be hundreds of thousands of testers even with the charge, but that number would be significantly higher if they had it open.
Less people complaining about everything the better.

And again, nobody is telling you to get the game at the start. They're clearly telling you it will go F2P after alpha so it isn't really a cash grab.

PirateShampoo

Looking forward to trying this game out, it sounds interesting.

Pixelbastardo

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Quality doesn't mean qualified. It means high standard.
There could very well be hundreds of thousands of testers even with the charge, but that number would be significantly higher if they had it open.
Less people complaining about everything the better.

And again, nobody is telling you to get the game at the start. They're clearly telling you it will go F2P after alpha so it isn't really a cash grab.

Fair enough, but i think theres something funny about charging people to test a F2P alpha.. They know the craze behind these survival games right now, and their taking advantage. 20e is a fair price to get into an early access game like this, its just the MT's that suck.
I'd like to know if the Micro transactions will be up and running from day 1/month 1 ? sure they'll want to test the MT features during the alpha or beta, but will they be using real money or "monopoly" like money for the test period. WarZ charged people for the game, and then introduced MT's during the test period for real cash, and people were up in arms about it (as they should of been)

I watched the reveal the other night on the 1337lounge show, and if this game delivers on some of the ideas their going for, theres no way to wait until it goes through alpha testing, to beta testing and then finally finished. i dont have supermans patients, like most other gamers who love these type of games, and creators have to be fully aware of this, and taking advantage.

At one time being charged to play a F2P game that ran on MT's was a no no. Now people are defending this very thing, but worse its an early access alpha F2P game. Theres no harm in questing these things, dont just roll over defending it... On the 1337lounge show reveal, the lead guy said it wont be pay2win, so theres always that, i hope its the way they go with it.

ShadowHearth

This game does not need much to be good. Make it like DayZ, but not in the ****y Arma2 engine - Best survival game on the market.

FlyingIrishMan

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Fair enough, but i think theres something funny about charging people to test a F2P alpha.. They know the craze behind these survival games right now, and their taking advantage. 20e is a fair price to get into an early access game like this, its just the MT's that suck.
I'd like to know if the Micro transactions will be up and running from day 1/month 1 ? sure they'll want to test the MT features during the alpha or beta, but will they be using real money or "monopoly" like money for the test period. WarZ charged people for the game, and then introduced MT's during the test period for real cash, and people were up in arms about it (as they should of been)

It's nothing to do with the craze for this genre at the moment, they've done it for some of their previous games too.

raymix

ShadowHearth wrote: »

This game does not need much to be good. Make it like DayZ, but not in the ****y Arma2 engine - Best survival game on the market.

To be quite honest, the more you get into dev side of arma engine, the more you understand it's quite powerful for what it does. It wasn't designed to handle amounts of stuff that DayZ generates. To handle that you'd need to build an engine from ground up (this is where hopefully H1Z1 comes in). Standalone doesn't do that, it's still just a total conversation mod at current state with the exception that they have access to source code.

Pixelbastardo

Live stream in half an hour here, lets see what they got.
http://www.twitch.tv/h1z1

MajesticDonkey

I don't think anyone can say this game doesn't look frickin' awesome...

ShadowHearth

MajesticDonkey wrote: »

I don't think anyone can say this game doesn't look frickin' awesome...

4 weeks from now for early access... Not bad.

Zero-Cool

Recording can be watched here, just giving a look now.

http://www.twitch.tv/h1z1/b/520748817

Mr Blobby

Here's a video of last nights live stream -

Zero-Cool

Does anyone know if early access is just on PC. Would be sickened if I had to wait for the full release on PS4.

FlyingIrishMan

sheehy83 wrote: »

Does anyone know if early access is just on PC. Would be sickened if I had to wait for the full release on PS4.

Just PC. PS4 release will be a few months off at the earliest.

Zero-Cool

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Just PC. PS4 release will be a few months off at the earliest.

Bollix sake!

Zero-Cool

So, any of ye DayZ players, how is H1Z1 looking compared to it so far? I know H1Z1 is in fairly early days but I think it looks really empty (2000 players should beef it up a bit anyway)

richymcdermott

Use to play day z , not alot some had a good few hours with last year. Can be awful empty feeling at times butwhen you bump into other players it can be awful hilarious. H1Z1 seems very similar so its all good for me and cant wait till its released on ps4

raymix

Hopefully they will enable server modding.

FlyingIrishMan

raymix wrote: »

Hopefully they will enable server modding.

Did they do that with any other of their forgelight games? I doubt they'll ever allow modding. There will be that player create studio but that's about it.

MajesticDonkey

raymix wrote: »

Hopefully they will enable server modding.

As far as I know, no one will be hosting servers apart from SOE - same as Planetside.

FlyingIrishMan

They do have these player server things coming in: http://www.reddit.com/r/h1z1/comments/23by4l/player_servers/

I'm not fully sure I understand what they are, but from what I've gathered a large group of players can vote for SOE to create servers with specific rulesets and features. So you could have servers with high level of military gear, or no vehicles etc

ktulu123

Looking forward to this now after the live stream footage i've seen

Pixelbastardo

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

It's nothing to do with the craze for this genre at the moment, they've done it for some of their previous games too.

Yes it is, they want to cash in plain and simple. i cant believe how anyone can defend being charged 20e to alpha test a FREE2PLAY game.

RasTa

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Yes it is, they want to cash in plain and simple. i cant believe how anyone can defend being charged 20e to alpha test a FREE2PLAY game.

Easy, don't bother testing and wait so you can play for free.

MajesticDonkey

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Yes it is, they want to cash in plain and simple. i cant believe how anyone can defend being charged 20e to alpha test a FREE2PLAY game.

The game has to make money somehow. If you don't want to spend the €20 then wait until it comes out. Simple. I will be buying it.

Pixelbastardo

RasTa wrote: »

Easy, don't bother testing and wait so you can play for free.

Thanks for the tip. But it would be better if they done what BI are doing with DayZ and have a one time fee with zero micro transactions. I'd much rather pay a one time fee. This "testing" period could go on for years before full release.

Mr Blobby

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Thanks for the tip. But it would be better if they done what BI are doing with DayZ and have a one time fee with zero micro transactions. I'd much rather pay a one time fee. This "testing" period could go on for years before full release.

Imo what DayZ is doing is worse.. They've charged full price for a game not even close to done and will take at least another year before its actually released.

With DayZ you're paying full price to play test there game.. At least H1Z1 will be free when it comes out.

FlyingIrishMan

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Thanks for the tip. But it would be better if they done what BI are doing with DayZ and have a one time fee with zero micro transactions. I'd much rather pay a one time fee. This "testing" period could go on for years before full release.

You mean like the DayZ testing period is going to go on for years?

Pixelbastardo

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Imo what DayZ is doing is worse.. They've charged full price for a game not even close to done and will take at least another year before its actually released.

With DayZ you're paying full price to play test there game.. At least H1Z1 will be free when it comes out.

Man, wth are you talking about ?, DayZ is charging less then full price for early access right now (24e) and thats for all future content included(no content locked behind microtransactions). DayZ will cost more when its finished incase you didn't know..

Whereas h1z1 is charging 20e for early access alpha into a Free2play game with micro transactions.

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

You mean like the DayZ testing period is going to go on for years?

Indeed, whats your point ?

FlyingIrishMan

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Indeed, whats your point ?

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

This "testing" period could go on for years before full release.

..........

Pixelbastardo

Still dont see your point dude. All im saying is it could take years to become actually "Free2Play", until then they charge people 20e with Microtransactions.

Mr Blobby

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Man, wth are you talking about ?, DayZ is charging less then full price for early access right now (24e) and thats for all future content included(no content locked behind microtransactions). DayZ will cost more when its finished incase you didn't know..

Whereas h1z1 is charging 20e for early access alpha into a Free2play game with micro transactions.

But you don't have to pay the €20... You will be able to play the game for free when its released.

DayZ on the other hand forces you to pay €24 just to test the game. Also the devs have said that any micro transactions will be mostly cosmetic stuff. here's a quote from a dev -

you seriously don't need to spend a dime. We're still figuring out the monetization but we will telegraph our plans early and let people comment and we'll listen if they don't like something and come to a place where people feel good about it.

They've basically said numerous times that its not pay to win.