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Rehab CEO to step down

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  • 02-04-2014 7:37am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭


    Just heard on newstalk (so no link) that Angela Kerns is to step down, anyone want to make a call on how much she'll get in a pension pot? I'm going for half a mil.

    Good riddance, you deserve your retirement after destroying the good name of a good charity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Bertie's girl riding off into the sunset...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb




  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Will her replacement be any better (or cheaper)?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    There must be another story on the way!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    The receiving of one 1 cent, or more, of public money should require absolute financial transparency on the part of the organisation that receives it. Don't like it? Go away.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    How much?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Don't worry, her pension pot will suffice her lifestyle and she'll be re hired within a week as a consultant for something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    The receiving of one 1 cent, or more, of public money should require absolute financial transparency on the part of the organisation that receives it. Don't like it? Go away.

    Me hole!
    Rehab don't get state handouts, they sell their services to the state, a state which could, but chooses not provide those services directly.
    By your logic any individual receiving child benefit, mortgage relief, or the pension should have to publish their personal financial details.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    Newstalk is reporting it on their 8am news but for some reason absolutely nobody appears to be mentioning it even with an attribution to a Newstalk report


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Me hole!
    Rehab don't get state handouts, they sell their services to the state, a state which could, but chooses not provide those services directly.

    So? Taxpayers have a right to know how their money is being spent, regardless.
    By your logic any individual receiving child benefit, mortgage relief, or the pension should have to publish their personal financial details.

    Apples and oranges.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Me hole!
    Rehab don't get state handouts, they sell their services to the state, a state which could, but chooses not provide those services directly.
    By your logic any individual receiving child benefit, mortgage relief, or the pension should have to publish their personal financial details.

    Do you have any issue with what she was doing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    RTE now reporting it as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    SPDUB wrote: »
    Newstalk is reporting it on their 8am news but for some reason absolutely nobody appears to be mentioning it even with an attribution to a Newstalk report

    It's pretty obvious the bad press made her position untenable. She made the whole mess far worse herself and done major damage to the charity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Dr Strange


    Interesting development. Wasn't she supposed to appear before PAC on Thursday?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    So? Taxpayers have a right to know how their money is being spent, regardless.

    No they don't actually.
    They have a right to question why the State buys certain things, they have NO right to question why the entity which is selling to the state charges X or Y price or what it pays its staff.
    None of their business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    Do you have any issue with what she was doing?

    Private entity, none of business what she was doing, if Rehab customers (the state) don't like it they can shop elsewhere for the services they were purchasing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    So going with the current government theme, I'm guessing some new scandal is about to be exposed and she's jumping ship now to make sure she keeps her pension.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Private entity, none of business what she was doing, if Rehab customers (the state) don't like it they can shop elsewhere for the services they were purchasing.

    Any company working with the government should be held to higher standards on transparency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    They have a right to question why the State buys certain things, they have NO right to question why the entity which is selling to the state charges X or Y price or what it pays its staff.

    Which is why I said:
    Karl Stein wrote: »
    The receiving .. of public money should require absolute financial transparency
    None of their business.

    Em.. yes it is. That's why herself and others are being called before the PAC. It very much is our business where public money goes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    humanji wrote: »
    So going with the current government theme, I'm guessing some new scandal is about to be exposed and she's jumping ship now to make sure she keeps her pension.

    She is not a government employee and her pension would not be an issue.
    I do note though that unlike TD's and public servants her pension is defined contribution and not defined benefit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Private entity

    Bull. If it's in receipt of public money it automatically attracts the attention of the public. Why do you think this whole Rehab scandal has been exposed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Which is why I said:





    Em.. yes it is. That's why herself and others are being called before the PAC. It very much is our business where public money goes.
    It is our business how the government spends our money, it is not our business how private companies operate their affairs so long as they are operating legally. Just because the government is a customer of Rehab does not give us any additional rights over Rehab which is a private entity.
    The PAC can only enquire into whether or not it thinks the government got value for money for its custom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Any company working with the government should be held to higher standards on transparency.

    Look up all the supply contracts on etenders website, should the salaries of all people working in the companies which supply various public bodies have their salary disclosed and in the public domain ?

    Presumably all PS /CS exact salaries and expenses should be in the public domain aswell, nice big list of names and their cost to the tax payer. Great for the nosey neighbour


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    She is not a government employee and her pension would not be an issue.
    I do note though that unlike TD's and public servants her pension is defined contribution and not defined benefit.
    Never said she was a government employee, just that with current trends in government related scandals, someone always "retires voluntarily" just before another scandal creeps up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Bull. If it's in receipt of public money it automatically attracts the attention of the public. Why do you think this whole Rehab scandal has been exposed?

    Dell gets public money when the government buy a laptop, Lyons get public money if the government buy teabags, doesn't give the taxpayer any addition rights to question how much those companys staff earn.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    It is our business how the government spends our money

    And how do we know how it is being spent if we don't know where public money is going? Do you have a vested interest?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Murt10


    Wasn't there something about a property deal that never happened and her being flown here and there in a helicopter and wined and dined by the builder/developer looking to buy the land that the CRC was built on.


    Later denied by Kerrins (huh!)


    Link http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-spent-100000-entertaining-rehab-bosses-developer-30056079.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Dell gets public money when the government buy a laptop, Lyons get public money if the government buy teabags, doesn't give the taxpayer any addition rights to question how much those companys staff earn.

    Again, apples and oranges. The government isn't a stakeholder in Dell but is in Rehab with the public money it injects.
    :)

    You're a slippery fish aren't you? Do you have a vested interest in Rehab?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    efb wrote: »
    Bertie's girl riding off into the sunset...

    sorry...
    Rehab are in bed with FG not FF.

    Don't let the facts get in the way of a chance to kick bertie.
    There is a multitude of crime to hang bertie without making stuff up.


    good riddence to an odious woman.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    Huge pay off no doubt. Welcome to Ireland where failure is rewarded.


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