Why do certain people dislike the jews?

Bowlardo

Why do certain people dislike the jews?
Did they ever do anything wrong to anyone?
Why is there this automatic disliking for them?
Israel was a designated land area for them but why are people not found of them?
This is a genuine question...personally i admire the ability to endure but can't understand what specifically they did wrong that they are disliked...
Mod please don't **** this down as i am hoping for some insight

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

I'm sure that everyone posting on this thread will be able to distinguish between individual Jewish people and the state of Israel and there won't be any massive generalizations or petty squabbling at all.

amkin25

This is a kinda stupid post if u ask me , its also asking for trouble .

Some history lessons should help you figure it out .
Read some stuff

Sunglasses Ron

amkin25 wrote: »

This is a kinda stupid post if u ask me , its also asking for trouble .

Asking for trouble?

Trouble?

He asked a question on a message board. It doesn't compare to walking into a pub in Finglas wearing a Rangers jersey.

nice_very

Judaism and zionism are not one and the same OP, do some research before you try to provoke people by starting controversial threads.

Merkin

Have you tried Google?

amkin25

But cmon seriously obviously i dont mean its asking for trouble in that way ,i just mean why ask it when u could just google it and get it fairly quickly or wikipedia or something.

Its not hard to find this stuff out. Hes got internet

nice_very

amkin25 wrote: »

But cmon seriously obviously i dont mean its asking for trouble in that way ,i just mean why ask it when u could just google it and get it fairly quickly or wikipedia or something.

Its not hard to find this stuff out. Hes got internet

OP is trying to make out that any pro - Palestine people are anti jewish, the majority of Irish republicans would be pro-Palestine, OP is looking to start a row and push the zionist (not jewish) agenda

7ofBrian

Ah After Hours. boards.ie's hub for intelligent debate

Bowlardo

I was hoping some educated people could give me some insight to it....obviously AH was a bad place to post this ....i did google it by the way but the first hit was a bit strange...so i was hoping someone provide me with some insight...instead i am just with met with comments with no information which further adds weigth to my belief that no on knows the answer to my query...

op waits in hope that some one can come up with something other than "google it"
****ing hell.

so9 reply and no opinions insight as to why that is

GenieOz

http://www.rense.com/general80/whj.htm

Adamantium

It's actually legimately hard to find a reason on the internet as to why Jews are hated so much.

They're generally hard working and no nonsense and tend to excel in their chosen areas because they're disciplined. Just like their haters could be.

The fact, that people couldn't stop slagging this ethnic group after WW2, means they'll never stop. Makes me depressed and confirms the human race never learns.

I actually think those who deny the Holocaust, cannot handle the sheer numbers of lives and suffering inflicted by man, that they go into shock and refuse to believe humans ever did something like it systemically. The refusal to believe that human nature could be so irredemably dark and evil.

Ironically, It's a lot like the survivors that couldn't handle telling the stories and people who stood by couldn't believe they let it happen.

It's like PTSD but they never went through it, cognitive dissonance.

Bowlardo

GenieOz wrote: »

http://www.rense.com/general80/whj.htm

thanks for making an attempt to inform me...but does that link suggest the holocaust didn't happen....buddy think that is a bit too much ....any chance of getting another link on what really happened? or is that your opinion?

Cookie_Monster

because religion

Terrontress

Same reason why some people don't like Muslims or blacks. Because they are identifiable. An easy target for bullies.

Bowlardo

Adamantium wrote: »

It's actually legimately hard to find a reason on the internet as to why Jews are hated so much.

They're generally hard working and no nonsense and tend to excel in their chosen areas because they're disciplined. Just like their haters could be.

The fact, that people couldn't stop slagging this ethnic group after WW2, means they'll never stop. Makes me depressed and confirms the human race never learns.

I actually think those who deny the Holocaust, cannot handle the sheer numbers of lives and suffering inflicted by man, that they go into shock and refuse to believe humans ever did something like it systemically. The refusal to believe that human nature could be so irredemably dark and evil.

Ironically, It's a lot like the survivors that couldn't handle telling the stories and people who stood by couldn't believe they let it happen.

It's like PTSD but they never went through it, cognitive dissonance.

Thank you for that. hope to wake up tomorrow with some clarity on my original question....it just doesn't make sense ....what did they do wrong...I know they are ****head to the Palestine’s but not sure why is there just this automatic dislike to them....and if any one come back with I’m a troll they can **** right off...I’m genuinely looking/hoping for more educated knowledgeable people to point me in the right (informed)
direction

nice_very

OP you might want to check out the Irish holocaust, commonly called the "famine" little spoken about yet millions of Irish people died in that too

Adamantium

Bowlardo wrote: »

Thank you for that. hope to wake up tomorrow with some clarity on my original question....it just doesn't make sense ....what did they do wrong...I know they are ****head to the Palestine’s but not sure why is there just this automatic dislike to them....and if any one come back with I’m a troll they can **** right off...I’m genuinely looking/hoping for more educated knowledgeable people to point me in the right (informed)
direction

There is also the fact that Jew tend to seen as liberalists/power hungry and are in control of much western media and money that makes them a pet favourite of conspiracies. Much of Hollywood is Jewish control, but is there some conspiracy that they're intent on infecting the world? Who's to say?

Is Steven Spielberg drinking the blood of children? Will he force Indy 5 down our throats? Will Lucas ever be let near a screenplay again?

By and large if a certain group works hard they're going to be more prominent in any given field. Once agin it's jealousy and a lot of hate

Honestly after Jews saw half their worldwide population wiped out, I could understand why they would be the some of the most experienced people to truly undestand the need (if any) for a New World Order. Nobody ever thinks about that. There's a chance they never want themselves (mainly) or any other group to suffer another calamity like it.

Bowlardo

Adamantium wrote: »

There is also the fact that Jew tend to seen as liberalists/power hungry and are in control of much western media and money that makes them a pet favourite of conspiracies. Much of Hollywood is Jewish control, but is there some conspiracy that they're intent on infecting the world? Who's to say?

Is Steven Spielberg drinking the blood of children? Will he force Indy 5 down our throats? Will Lucas ever be let near a screenplay again?

By and large if a certain group works hard they're going to be more prominent in any given field. Once agin it's jealousy and a lot of hate

Honestly after Jews saw half their worldwide population wiped out, I could understand why they would be the some of the most experienced people to truly undestand the need (if any) for a New World Order. Nobody ever thinks about that. There's a chance they never want themselves (mainly) or any other group to suffer another calamity like it.

is the most of it jeallousy then...that they are successfull and have money?
is that why everyone (apparetnly lieks the irish) as in we are not ever really successful and we like to spend our money...probably going off topic there

jjpep

The Romans disliked them on religious grounds. They were the first group (that the Romans encountered) to deny the existence of any other gods except their own. The Romans didn't like this because v they thought it both arrogant and dangerous. Roman policy was to let conquered people and client states keep their own beliefs.

Adamantium

Mainly. Like yourself,I'm not the most informed. I lived in the USA for a year and older people generations, tend to think of them as greedy and tight, and they generally don't like pleasing people. It's a stereotype and it is true in a respect. I respect them for this, they're wonderfully pragmatic. They have no opinion of themselves. Its about what you ca bring to the table.

The Irish people I knew didn't like them all that much and found them irritating, because we tend to have very laidback nature, which looks lazy to the Jewish community. and I do agree with them in that respect. Its the antithesis of Jewish culture. They could be seen as slave driver mentality, but hey look were they are, and where others aren't who want to be.

They're just more open about it, when other groups tend to believe we're all sweetness and kindness, and then behind people's back (we talk about them and stab others in the back) we do the same and in our minds; we're exactly the same deep, we know this.

You'll rarely ever a person who's that intellectually honest to admit that though

sillyoulfool

nice_very wrote: »

OP you might want to check out the Irish holocaust, commonly called the "famine" little spoken about yet millions of Irish people died in that too

Rubbish!

kneemos

Always been successful and hard working.Simple jealousy and suspicion I suspect op.

GenieOz

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Rubbish!

Famine denier eh?

Wulfie

Bowlardo wrote: »

Why do certain people dislike the jews?
Did they ever do anything wrong?
Israel was a designated land area for them but why are people not found of them?

You probably don't remember ever seeing them bulldoze Palestinian houses on the news.
Israel was designated to them by GOD ,or so they reckon.
The West Bank and Gaza have sanctions placed on them,that means they can't get medicine or essential necessities.
Any Jewish yank can go there and build a house on Palestinian soil and be protected by one of the best equipped armies of the world.
Bob Dylan an Woody Allen are enough of a reason for me to dislike the lot of them.
Oh and if they weren't so easy to coerce into doing Nazi bidding, the killing machine might not have been so effective. Only a few German troops were needed to run the camps , the policing and herding was carried out by the better fed Jewish inmates.

I might not have all my facts right there. I won't go out and harm some one for their religion , but I wouldn't give an Israeli Zionist the time of day.

Long live Palestine.

sopretty

GenieOz wrote: »

http://www.rense.com/general80/whj.htm

I'd actually be interested to know more about this topic also.

Genie - thanks for posting that link, but it's a little em..... amateur. It references a lot of events with no back-up. I sort of glossed over the remainder of the article after the writer's statement that many of the claims about the Holocaust were fraudulent.

Sir Osis of Liver.

rambutman

Wulfie wrote: »

You probably don't remember ever seeing them bulldoze Palestinian houses on the news.
Israel was designated to them by GOD ,or so they reckon.
The West Bank and Gaza have sanctions placed on them,that means they can't get medicine or essential necessities.
Any Jewish yank can go there and build a house on Palestinian soil and be protected by one of the best equipped armies of the world.
Bob Dylan an Woody Allen are enough of a reason for me to dislike the lot of them.
Oh and if they weren't so easy to coerce into doing Nazi bidding, the killing machine might not have been so effective. Only a few German troops were needed to run the camps , the policing and herding was carried out by the better fed Jewish inmates.

I might not have all my facts right there. I won't go out and harm some one for their religion , but I wouldn't give an Israeli Zionist the time of day.

Long live Palestine.

Think this sums it up pretty good.

Tipsy McSwagger

GenieOz wrote: »

http://www.rense.com/general80/whj.htm

If everyone who sees this information passes it on to at least one other person, the crimes and misdeeds of the Jewish supremacists and Zionists will be exposed. Please, do your part. Pass it on. Our world as we know it is counting on you

What a load of shyte

rambutman

Wulfie wrote: »

You probably don't remember ever seeing them bulldoze Palestinian houses on the news.
Israel was designated to them by GOD ,or so they reckon.
The West Bank and Gaza have sanctions placed on them,that means they can't get medicine or essential necessities.
Any Jewish yank can go there and build a house on Palestinian soil and be protected by one of the best equipped armies of the world.
Bob Dylan an Woody Allen are enough of a reason for me to dislike the lot of them.
Oh and if they weren't so easy to coerce into doing Nazi bidding, the killing machine might not have been so effective. Only a few German troops were needed to run the camps , the policing and herding was carried out by the better fed Jewish inmates.

I might not have all my facts right there. I won't go out and harm some one for their religion , but I wouldn't give an Israeli Zionist the time of day.

Long live Palestine.

Think this sums it up pretty good.

Wulfie

rambutman wrote: »

Think this sums it up pretty good.

Really !
Thanks .

mrcheez

Bowlardo wrote: »

Why do certain people dislike the jews?
Did they ever do anything wrong to anyone?
Why is there this automatic disliking for them?
Israel was a designated land area for them but why are people not found of them?
This is a genuine question...personally i admire the ability to endure but can't understand what specifically they did wrong that they are disliked...
Mod please don't **** this down as i am hoping for some insight

Historically-speaking it comes down to religion mostly.

Hated because they "killed our Lord" (not my lord mind), but mainly because they were allowed to continue with usury (giving out loans with high interest... a lot like the pay-day loan companies that get advertised on UK TV every 5 minutes) when it was banned for Christians.

So *some* Jewish people got very rich... and the people they loaned to got poorer (which included powerful princes who had the power to banish them from their lands)

*Recall Shylock demanding his pound of flesh because he wasn't getting paid back... that was the sort of stereotype in Shakespeare's day*

They're also regarded with suspicion due to being a somewhat "closed" society traditionally.

miss no stars

I think one of the big things going against them these days is Israel and their treatment of Palestine. I'm against the persecution of people. I don't care what colour or creed they are, or the colour or creed of their persecutors. It's wrong. Israel is persecuting Palestine. I have no time for those who think what Israel has done is right. I think both countries have a fundamental right to exist and I think the WWII allies have a lot to answer for in respect of how they carved up Palestine to create patchwork Israel and Palestine. But that doesn't excuse Israel's expansionist and aggressive policies.

However, I am perfectly able to distinguish between individual Jewish people from wherever around the world (be it Dublin, London, the USA or Israel) and the politics of Israel. I've worked for Jewish people in the USA for 6 months, lived with them, socialized with them (it was a largely, although not officially, Jewish summer camp I worked at twice) and I found them to be among the most honest, hard working decent people I've met. And one or two were intolerable but that's life! So certain people hate Jewish people because they're bigots, basically. On a lighter note, I'm sure Alan Shatter doesn't help their cause! Others hate Israel because they hate what they see being done to Palestine. Others hate Jewish people because they can't distinguish between the individual and the state of Israel.

Wulfie

Wulfie wrote: »

Bob Dylan an Woody Allen are enough of a reason for me to dislike the lot of them.
Oh and if they weren't so easy to coerce into doing Nazi bidding, the killing machine might not have been so effective. Only a few German troops were needed to run the camps , the policing and herding was carried out by the better fed Jewish inmates.

I think we might have reached the zenith of victim-blaming with this one.

Chazz Michael Michaels

mrcheez wrote: »

Historically-speaking it comes down to religion mostly.

Hated because they "killed our Lord" (not my lord mind), but mainly because they were allowed to continue with usury (giving out loans with high interest... a lot like the pay-day loan companies that get advertised on UK TV every 5 minutes) when it was banned for Christians.

So *some* Jewish people got very rich... and the people they loaned to got poorer (which included powerful princes who had the power to banish them from their lands)

*Recall Shylock demanding his pound of flesh because he wasn't getting paid back... that was the sort of stereotype in Shakespeare's day*

They're also regarded with suspicion due to being a somewhat "closed" society traditionally.

It was also reinforced by all guilds (like early unions) being Christian only, thus excluding Jews in Europe from trades like masonry, carpentry, etc. This left only non guild trades like finance, law, etc for them to occupy. Morons would have you believe they chose these professions as a tradition of their "jewiness" or something.

The Backwards Man

Why do some people hate people of a different gender, people of a different race, people of a different nationality, people of a different sexual orientation, people of a different religion, fat people, skinny people, disabled people, intellectual people, poor people, rich people, famous people, infamous people?

Some people like to hate, and it's much easier to hate when you can see what you want to hate in front of you.

Grayson

Candie wrote: »

I think we might have reached the zenith of victim-blaming with this one.

It's a valid point. In the trail of Eichmann Hannah Arendt (a jew) made the same comment. She got slated for it, but it is worth noting.

The main gist that Eichmann said was that millions of Jews were killed but that the whole thing was organised by a few people. They went to the ghettos and got the Jews to organise themselves. When the trains to the death camps started, the jews were incredibly well organised. They had already made up transportation lists etc. The jewish leadership believe that the population was to be sent east, they had no idea of the "final Solution". However even in the later stages when information was sent back to the ghettos, people wilfully ignored it. They couldn't fathom the sheer scope of what was happening.

It's not the same as saying the Jews were responsible for the holocaust. It's more a lesson in human nature. The way we as people can be so wilfully blind to facts.

The figures for survival were very stark. i can't remember it exactly but something like 90% of those who resisted or fled managed to survive. Whereas 90% of those who complied were killed.

As to why Jews are hated, it originated with jesus, but that was just an excuse. After the jews fled Israel most took up trades that allowed them to travel. this included being jewellers, craftsmen, scribes etc... they were generally more educated than the general populace and were the target of jealously. Overtime myths and stories such as blood libel were used to justify that baser actions of ignorant people.

LorMal

GenieOz wrote: »

Famine denier eh?

Are they very transparent tights?

MRnotlob606

envy I guess

y0ssar1an22

I am also not very informed on this topic but from what you pick up in the media I know a little bit. There seems to have been a war between Israel and Palestine going on for yonks over land.
So who owned the land 1st, and who invaded who?

Grayson

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

I am also not very informed on this topic but from what you pick up in the media I know a little bit. There seems to have been a war between Israel and Palestine going on for yonks over land.
So who owned the land 1st, and who invaded who?

Rumour has it that this guy started it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham

UCDVet

Maybe it's just me....but I'm a racist. It's not that I think one race is inferior or anything, it's just that (for a lot of reasons) there are lots of measurable differences between races in lots of places on Earth, right now. So, if I live in country A, and in country A there is a serious, measurable difference between the crime rate of ethnic group B and ethnic group C - well.....I think crime is bad - so if ethnic group B commits violent crime at a rate that is five times higher than group C - well, you know what?

I don't like B's.

I don't want to live around Bs. And while I can acknowledge that there is a difference between any one individual and the group as a whole - would you apply that logic to anything else? 'Well Sir, would you like the guitar from Factory A that has a one in five failure rate, or the guitar from Factory B that has a one in ten failure rate? But keep in mind, that any individual guitar is not necessarily going to fail or not fail....' Well duh - that's how statistics work. Still, I'd rather have the guitar from Factory B because it has a lower failure rate.

So, by most standards, I'm a racist. But, I think people who refuse to acknowledge the current state of the world are willfully ignorant, so fair play to us all.

The thing is, there are lots of races/groups that in some country, are pretty crappy compared to other races in that same country. But Jews? I don't get it. Maybe it's just where I've lived, but Jews have always had high levels of educational attainment, employment rates, income levels, and very low crime rates, etc, etc.

So, yeah, I really don't get the anti-jew stuff. When I look online and try to actually find out - I just get fluff like, 'Well, historically Jews were rich and successful, so everyone hated them'. I'm kind of skeptical of that, but I'm also to lazy to really spend time doing research.

// Pro Jew

dr.bollocko

Threads like this are like a beacon in the night for idiots to spout nonsense. So lets just let OP do some research and let these people who zoom to threads on Israel / the Jews move off somewhere else.