todays government have become utterly untenable?

renegademaster

if you've been watching what our government has being trying to defend and support the last few weeks and in fact since it took office, like me you might be fed up with being lied too, placated too, condescended too, spied on, robbed/corrupted and increasingly forced to work for free, emigrate, fester on the dole or worse case scenario swing from a rope,

all the while out government swan off across the globe meeting and greeting other corrupt "leaders", enjoy fantastic lifestyles and pick up massive pensions even if they wreck the country and what are the people of Ireland doing about it??

final straw for me is after shatter rushes through his statement this morn and stated he only recieved info on the garda station phone call recordings on tue at 12.40pm and since then the statement was so ill recieved he had to finally apolagise, and now we know he knew about these recordings since at least 2001!!

when will the people decide enough is enough!!

edit. May 2001: Shatter DEMANDS action on recorded phone conversations between solicitors & clients in Donegal Garda station (via www.twitter.com/Effanning )

Stavros Murphy

No idea. People seem to be generally happy enough with Kenny and Co. Mystifies me, but there you go.

SamAK

When the price of a chicken fillet roll goes beyond three euro.....then we march on Leinster House and hang, draw and quarter the lot of them.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Rant over?

For what it's worth, and I'm not going to get in to yet another government bashing discussing, I'm happy enough with this current government and what they have done to get this country going again. I didn't vote for them but will in future.

fleet_admiral

Ah no, are there any more chipsticks?

The Backwards Man

What was it someone said about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

Bejubby

Valeria Disgusting Underwear wrote: »

Rant over?

For what it's worth, and I'm not going to get in to yet another government bashing discussing, I'm happy enough with this current government and what they have done to get this country going again. I didn't vote for them but will in future.

Best joke ever?

kneemos

When the lies become implausible it is a bit disheartening in fairness.
They've dealt with all of this like complete idiots.Just fess up and
do the thing right instead of automatically falling back on the default position of petty politics

renegademaster

kneemos wrote: »

When the lies become implausible it is a bit disheartening in fairness.
They've dealt with all of this like complete idiots.Just fess up and
do the thing right instead of automatically falling back on the default position of petty politics

who can blame them for chancing their arms and try to ride it all out, we let way too much dodgy $hite slide and it only encourages them

diomed

The Gevernment are in the shatter.

tayto lover

FG = FF = Lab = SF = Ind

All politicians, all self-servers.

darkpagandeath

Don't you worry the cuts to welfare and Disability was needed to keep their fat pensions and wages up. Dunno how they sleep at night collecting what 90k..

corner of hells

I met Enda bout 18 months ago , I knew he was on his way in for a visit and I was debating stickin a loaf on him but he shook hands with me and a lot of my colleagues and seemed nice enough so I decided to hold off so I'm cool at the moment on rebellions an ****.

kneemos

renegademaster wrote: »

if you've been watching what our government has being trying to defend and support the last few weeks and in fact since it took office, like me you might be fed up with being lied too, placated too, condescended too, spied on, robbed/corrupted and increasingly forced to work for free, emigrate, fester on the dole or worse case scenario swing from a rope,

all the while out government swan off across the globe meeting and greeting other corrupt "leaders", enjoy fantastic lifestyles and pick up massive pensions even if they wreck the country and what are the people of Ireland doing about it??

final straw for me is after shatter rushes through his statement this morn and stated he only recieved info on the garda station phone call recordings on tue at 12.40pm and since then the statement was so ill recieved he had to finally apolagise, and now we know he knew about these recordings since at least 2001!!

when will the people decide enough is enough!!

edit. May 2001: Shatter DEMANDS action on recorded phone conversations between solicitors & clients in Donegal Garda station (via www.twittery.com/Effanning )

That must be it for Shatter if those quotes are correct.

Foxhound38

renegademaster wrote: »

if you've been watching what our government has being trying to defend and support the last few weeks and in fact since it took office, like me you might be fed up with being lied too, placated too, condescended too, spied on, robbed/corrupted and increasingly forced to work for free, emigrate, fester on the dole or worse case scenario swing from a rope,

all the while out government swan off across the globe meeting and greeting other corrupt "leaders", enjoy fantastic lifestyles and pick up massive pensions even if they wreck the country and what are the people of Ireland doing about it??

final straw for me is after shatter rushes through his statement this morn and stated he only recieved info on the garda station phone call recordings on tue at 12.40pm and since then the statement was so ill recieved he had to finally apolagise, and now we know he knew about these recordings since at least 2001!!

when will the people decide enough is enough!!

edit. May 2001: Shatter DEMANDS action on recorded phone conversations between solicitors & clients in Donegal Garda station (via www.twitter.com/Effanning )

Feasible alternative administration to run the country?

FF/SF?

Unviable and probably worse IMO

diomed

Selective memory loss?

renegademaster

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Feasible alternative administration to run the country?

FF/SF?

Unviable and probably worse IMO

all we need to is hold governments to account, if something unforgivable comes out like what has been leaking out of our government the last few years we go to the polls and the next crowd would want to do a better job or they're out on their a$$es too. the problem is not who's in government, it's what they think and/or know they can get away with

withless

Irishness be all deep in this.

Sir Oxman

How smug and STUPID is this guy right now on RTE1
http://www.finegael.ie/_internal/cimg!0/686hjgngqul3qckj0yzlc6nlukyi7db

Smug eejit spouting shít on behalf of Shítter.

renegademaster

Sir Oxman wrote: »

How smug and STUPID is this guy right now on RTE1
http://www.finegael.ie/_internal/cimg!0/686hjgngqul3qckj0yzlc6nlukyi7db

Smug eejit spouting shít on behalf of Shítter.

he's not stupid, we're the stupid ones for letting them away with this and jus wait til you see how it's all handled and we'll just sit around watching that too!!

even rte not mentioning the shatter 2001 acknowledgment of the tapping of garda station phonecalls

Sir Oxman

renegademaster wrote: »

he's not stupid, we're the stupid ones for letting them away with this and jus wait til you see how it's all handled and we'll just sit around watching that too!!

even rte not mentioning the shatter 2001 acknowledgment of the tapping of garda station phonecalls

I agree.
Most Irish voters are thick without a doubt.
And the ones that don't bother are almost as bad.

But that w*nker from FG grinds my gears so much, he's a disgusting specimen of what thickos elect.

curioser

The Backwards Man wrote: »

What was it someone said about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

It was Einstein's definition of insanity.

renegademaster

pat rabbitte driving home to the people of ireland to take callinans reasons for "retiring" at face value, boIIoxology of the highest order!!

Renegade Mechanic

To be honest I dont think irish politics is something ypu can rise to the top of by being nice or having others best interests at heart

bumper234

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

To be jonest I dont think politics is something ypu can rise to the top of by being nice or having others best interests at heart

FYP

Renegade Mechanic

bumper234 wrote: »

FYP

Heh, aye.

Menas

Them government lads are all right in my book. Not perfect, but better than the alternative FF, SF, Looneys etc....

For Forks Sake

The Backwards Man wrote: »

What was it someone said about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

He tried the same old 'why aren't the people marching?' thread in Politics again today..with predictable results.

darkpagandeath

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Them government lads are all right in my book. Not perfect, but better than the alternative FF, SF, Looneys etc....

Yeah I mean it's just out and out lies were is the harm.

wicklowstevo

renegademaster wrote: »

if you've been watching what our government has being trying to defend and support the last few weeks and in fact since it took office, like me you might be fed up with being lied too, placated too, condescended too, spied on, robbed/corrupted and increasingly forced to work for free, emigrate, fester on the dole or worse case scenario swing from a rope,

all the while out government swan off across the globe meeting and greeting other corrupt "leaders", enjoy fantastic lifestyles and pick up massive pensions even if they wreck the country and what are the people of Ireland doing about it??

final straw for me is after shatter rushes through his statement this morn and stated he only recieved info on the garda station phone call recordings on tue at 12.40pm and since then the statement was so ill recieved he had to finally apolagise, and now we know he knew about these recordings since at least 2001!!

when will the people decide enough is enough!!

edit. May 2001: Shatter DEMANDS action on recorded phone conversations between solicitors & clients in Donegal Garda station (via www.twitter.com/Effanning )

well **** me ! so shatter knew 13 years ago then not one day ago ,
i wonder will his tail grow back when he goes back to his legal practice ??

Dyr

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Feasible alternative administration to run the country?

FF/SF?

Unviable and probably worse IMO

tbh lab/sf would have been the ticket if they had the numbers


the prospect of sticky-shinner partnership would have been delicious..citizen gilmore as glorious leader and grizzly adams as taawnishtay
oh to be a fly on the wall in that cabinet

woodoo

I will wait till the report comes out before i comment.

darkpagandeath

woodoo wrote: »

I will wait till the report comes out before i comment.

The one that will be lost behind the couch. Or the one that will need committee after committee to go over it till the current lot are out of power ?

renegademaster

woodoo wrote: »

I will wait till the report comes out before i comment.

this coupled with the fact the people are going to wait til april 2016 to hold the government to account is why whatever report comes, it will amount to sweet fcuk all!!

nice one

Red Pepper

I have never voted FF in my life. I doubt anyone in my family have.
However they are looking more and more credible with each day considering the sequence of screw-ups and general inaction from this massive majority government.

One thing is obvious to me, the majority of the cabinet are coasting to a cushy retirement in 2016...and couldn't give a fiddlers as a result.

woodoo

darkpagandeath wrote: »

The one that will be lost behind the couch. Or the one that will need committee after committee to go over it till the current lot are out of power ?

Anything that will buy time till it all blows over is the usual ploy.

They are so full of s**t they don't even read the reports when they do come out.

Phoebas

Red Pepper wrote: »

I have never voted FF in my life. I doubt anyone in my family have.
However they are looking more and more credible with each day considering the sequence of screw-ups and general inaction from this massive majority government.

Its an all too depressingly familiar cycle.

renegademaster

Red Pepper wrote: »

One thing is obvious to me, the majority of the cabinet are coasting to a cushy retirement in 2016...and couldn't give a fiddlers as a result.

which is why people have to get out there now demanding real change or GTFO now!!

Uriel.

Red Pepper wrote: »

I have never voted FF in my life. I doubt anyone in my family have.
However they are looking more and more credible with each day considering the sequence of screw-ups and general inaction from this massive majority government.

One thing is obvious to me, the majority of the cabinet are coasting to a cushy retirement in 2016...and couldn't give a fiddlers as a result.

Majority of cabinet rolling towards retirement in 2 years? Doubt it. Jimmy Deenihan I'd say for sure, providing FG can get a replacement ticket in listowel. Noonan a possibility but not a certainty. That's it really on the FG ranks. Labour? Hmmm maybe Quinn but not a definite either. Pat Rabbite perhaps, but I'd also doubt it

Uriel.

renegademaster wrote: »

which is why people have to get out there now demanding real change or GTFO now!!

I won't be joining you but thanks for the invite. So what time, when and where have you organised this great revolution? Just want to make sure I leave the car at home that day. Thanks

renegademaster

Phoebas wrote: »

Its an all too depressingly familiar cycle.

the problem is not with who's in government, it's what we let them away with

dxhound2005

renegademaster wrote: »

which is why people have to get out there now demanding real change or GTFO now!!

Are you mad. It's a quarter past eleven and people have to be up for work in the morning.

Uriel.

renegademaster wrote: »

can i ask why you're so against holding the corrupt to account?

Who said I was?

renegademaster

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Are you mad. It's a quarter past eleven and people have to be up for work in the morning.

this coming saturday afternoon or next week would do me, hopefully some large organisation calls for a mass family demonstration

as each day goes by and new examples of corruption come out we need this more than ever

Uriel.

renegademaster wrote: »

this coming saturday afternoon or next week would do me, hopefully some large organisation calls for a mass family demonstration

as each day goes by and new examples of corruption come out we need this more than ever

Why don't you organise it?

Red Pepper

Uriel. wrote: »

Majority of cabinet rolling towards retirement in 2 years? Doubt it. Jimmy Deenihan I'd say for sure, providing FG can get a replacement ticket in listowel. Noonan a possibility but not a certainty. That's it really on the FG ranks. Labour? Hmmm maybe Quinn but not a definite either. Pat Rabbite perhaps, but I'd also doubt it

Enda will I think. Noonan for sure. Quinn & Rabitte yes - they have lost interest.
Burton & Howlin also, no loss whatsoever, worst performers by far.
Gilmore only 58 but I reckon he will too.
Bruton, strong possibility - very quiet these days.
Shatter yes.

Terry Gilliam Beard

Red Pepper wrote: »

I have never voted FF in my life. I doubt anyone in my family have.
However they are looking more and more credible with each day considering the sequence of screw-ups and general inaction from this massive majority government.

One thing is obvious to me, the majority of the cabinet are coasting to a cushy retirement in 2016...and couldn't give a fiddlers as a result.

LOL. Thinly veiled Fianna Failure fan. Clearly the guys fixing national bankruptcy are worse than the corrupt clowns who caused it...:rolleyes:

renegademaster

Uriel. wrote: »

Why don't you organise it?

and how do i get hold of tens/hundreds of thousands and put together the planning needed for mass protests in the cities??

dxhound2005

renegademaster wrote: »

and how do i get hold of tens/hundreds of thousands and put together the planning needed for mass protests in the cities??

When the mass of people have something to protest about which will get them more money it will happen. Like the tax marches of the past. Nobody is interested in some vague anti corruption anti austerity agenda. Especially coming from Communist quarters like yourself.

road_high

Valeria Disgusting Underwear wrote: »

Rant over?

For what it's worth, and I'm not going to get in to yet another government bashing discussing, I'm happy enough with this current government and what they have done to get this country going again. I didn't vote for them but will in future.

This is it. The meedjah can get nothing much on this govt bar the never ending non story surrounding whistle blowers. Back in the real world most peoples real concerns are having a job, lower taxes, helathcare and education. Given the deep mess handed over by FF they are doing a damn good job as far as im concerned. Unemployment has fallen to quite an extent and numbers in work have gone up. The economy has stabilised and is improving in most areas. This is a very good start. I have every faith this will continue given their record the past 3 yesrs rebuilding the country after FF all but destroyed us.
I honestly dont see the big deal. After all the gardai are independent of the government to a grester extent so the witch hunt for Shatter I really don't get.

Fr. Ned

tayto lover wrote: »

FG = FF = Lab = SF = Ind

All politicians, all self-servers.

However, only two of those parties are in government overseeing the destruction of public trust in the Gardai.

Their arrogance and contempt for the public is worse than that shown by FFail.