Martin Callinan Resigns As Garda Commissioner

KMFCross

Newstalk just reporting this now.

Shatter next?

osarusan

Victory for Labour after all.

Birneybau

Good riddance.

D1stant

KMFCross wrote: »

Newstalk just reporting this now.

Shatter next?

Shatter will not resign. Why should he?

He is by far the smartest person in Ireland and sexy as hell

older i get better i was

Great news.

foggy_lad

Shaitter will have to follow as call in an was his lackie/bitch.

Red Nissan

IMO, it's a few disgruntled brother-in-law who could not get their penalty points dropped and shopped the lot of 'em.

The force has two concerns, it must be allowed to work, it has to be answerable to Government at the same time. The commissioner seemingly felt he was in the right.

I'm siding with a man who went to Templemore, did the training, got the exams, made sergeant and climbed to the top over some very troubled years, hmmm, I'm taking his side in this.

Roger_007

No doubt the "pain" of having to resign will be eased by a nice big lump sum and pension, not to mention plenty of little earners as a "security consultant".

tritium

KMFCross wrote: »

Newstalk just reporting this now.

Shatter next?

Unlikely Shatter will resign, Callinan has been sacrificed to likely prevent the topic arising. The whistleblower issue has had impressive stage management over the last few weeks to mute criticism of the minister. I do wonder if Shatter will actually apologise to the whistleblowers but I won't hold my breath.

Personally however I think Callinan had become a liability and was long overdue to resign. Penalty points of his own wiped, whistleblower controversy, friction with GSOC. It was only a matter of time before he had to go

gozunda

D1stant wrote: »

Shatter will not resign. Why should he?

He is by far the smartest person in Ireland and sexy as hell

Is that you Carol? Good woman!

A

token56

Really didn't think he would resign but happy he did. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was just so that he didn't have to apologise for the remarks he has made. It is probably the lesser of two evils in his eyes.

Robxxx7

Good Riddance

T-K-O

Just heard the news but he didn't retract that statement??

Scum bag behaviour.

Banjo String

Jeez, if Callinan has knowledge of skeletons in cupboards, I imagine he's been paid off, handsomely at that, rather than 'resigned'.


This man possibly has enough dirt to bring down the whole cabinet.

sillyoulfool

Red Nissan wrote: »

IMO, it's a few disgruntled brother-in-law who could not get their penalty points dropped and shopped the lot of 'em.

The force has two concerns, it must be allowed to work, it has to be answerable to Government at the same time. The commissioner seemingly felt he was in the right.

I'm siding with a man who went to Templemore, did the training, got the exams, made sergeant and climbed to the top over some very troubled years, hmmm, I'm taking his side in this.

Thank fúck you are all but on your own then, most sensible people will be glad to see the back of this bully boy who considers attributes like honesty, truth and integrity to be "disgusting".

K-9

KMFCross wrote: »

Newstalk just reporting this now.

Shatter next?

Nope, I'd say the complete opposite. This is the price of keeping Shatter in Government.

Birroc

T-K-O wrote: »

Just heard the news but he didn't retract that statement??

Scum bag behaviour.

Doubt he will retract the "disgusting" comments now. He basically told all 13,000 Guards to turn a blind eye to internal corruption or else. Nice.

He was an appalling leader and the Gardai are tarnished bigtime by his actions.

Dyr

Now get a commissioner in from an external force in the interim, and set up a independent board in the long run to make senior appointments rather than making them based on who you know or do favours for in FG/FF

If the patton proposals were good enough for the north then they're good enough for here

conorhal

Red Nissan wrote: »

IMO, it's a few disgruntled brother-in-law who could not get their penalty points dropped and shopped the lot of 'em.

The force has two concerns, it must be allowed to work, it has to be answerable to Government at the same time. The commissioner seemingly felt he was in the right.

I'm siding with a man who went to Templemore, did the training, got the exams, made sergeant and climbed to the top over some very troubled years, hmmm, I'm taking his side in this.

/Shakes head.... making you part of the problem.

Callanan by his actions is a prime example of everything wrong with this country.
He called whistle blowers a disgrace and suggested that if only two out of 13,000 guards had a problem then the problem must be the whistleblowers, because otherwise the problem was the whole force. Turns out it was.

Birroc

conorhal wrote: »

/Shakes head.... making you part of the problem.

Callanan by his actions is a prime example of everything wrong with this country.
He called whistle blowers a disgrace and suggested that if only two out of 13,000 guards had a problem then the problem must be the whistleblowers, because otherwise the problem was the whole force. Turns out it was.

Well said, here is the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAyervNJ3fA

Red Nissan, please explain what is right with this clip?

T-K-O

Birroc wrote: »

Doubt he will retract the "disgusting" comments now. He basically told all 13,000 Guards to turn a blind eye to internal corruption or else. Nice.

He was an appalling leader and the Gardai are tarnished bigtime by his actions.

Agreed, it's not going to happen.

I think most people are aware of the click that exists in the gards. What really surprised me was that this disgraced former commissioner had the balls to act that way in full view of the nation.

Larbre34

Shatter is too powerful within Fine Gael and hence the Govt, he is propping up more senior people than himself. The worst that will happen to him is a mid-term reshuffle somewhere between the local elections and 2016.

Larbre34

Callinan might have been very good at completing exams and going to Washington for command courses but from the mouths of Guards and I know 7 or 8 personally he was the most ineffectual boss theyve had for a generation and about as popular as a fart.

PS Deputy Commissioner Noirin O'Sullivan in pole position there now, could be the first female boss chief, unless they start looking outside the force, PSNI style.

Birneybau

T-K-O wrote: »

Agreed, it's not going to happen.

I think most people are aware of the click that exists in the gards. What really surprised me was that this disgraced former commissioner had the balls to act that way in full view of the nation.

Not correcting you but it's clique (I guess I just did). Just for future reference.

flutered

Larbre34 wrote: »

Callinan might have been very good at completing exams and going to Washington for command courses but from the mouths of Guards and I know 7 or 8 personally he was the most ineffectual boss theyve had for a generation and about as popular as a fart.

PS Deputy Commissioner Noirin O'Sullivan in pole position there now, could be the first female boss chief, unless they start looking outside the force, PSNI style.

unless she has fg connections she has not a chance.

T-K-O

Birneybau wrote: »

Not correcting you but it's clique (I guess I just did). Just for future reference.

I am aware of that, mobile posting doesn't give a fcuk.

Son Of A Vidic

Great news that just brightened up a dull day.

Santa Cruz

flutered wrote: »

unless she has fg connections she has not a chance.

Doesn't that sum up the problem with the Gardaí, Army, Judiciary in this country?
People like Shatter, Lowry, Haughey etc. actually decide on the senior appointments.
An independent police authority is now required to remove the cosy political/garda connection.

If Callinan had any sense he would release records of all the letters and phone calls from T.D. to Superintendents where they looked for penaly points to be quashed for the constituents

Banjo String

Incredibly Callinan insists he retired from the job. Not resigned.

Defiant to the last.

http://m.rte.ie/news/touch//2014/0325/604369-garda-whistleblowers/

FTA69

Red Nissan wrote: »

IMO, it's a few disgruntled brother-in-law who could not get their penalty points dropped and shopped the lot of 'em.

The force has two concerns, it must be allowed to work, it has to be answerable to Government at the same time. The commissioner seemingly felt he was in the right.

I'm siding with a man who went to Templemore, did the training, got the exams, made sergeant and climbed to the top over some very troubled years, hmmm, I'm taking his side in this.

You're siding with a corrupt bully who ironically felt the law didn't apply to him while being paid a hefty sum to enforce it. Why do some people in Ireland have such a fawning attitude to authority?

josip

And they were singing "Bye, bye...
Great news indeed.
Maybe it was the 'tache or maybe just the arrogance.

aujopimur

I think he's an arrogant snobbish bully.

davycc

From Callinans arrogant reirement statement- because"statistics from the CSO have shown that they have resulted in a reduction in crime throughout the country." well they will reduction if you classify crimes into the wrong categorys to suit your own smug failing agenda

mikom

I'll miss that smug moustache.

mrsbyrne

FTA69 wrote: »

You're siding with a corrupt bully who ironically felt the law didn't apply to him while being paid a hefty sum to enforce it. Why do some people in Ireland have such a fawning attitude to authority?

Thats the Irish way. Fore-lock tugging toadying to the bitter end. I hate it, its so cringemaking its unbearable.

Birroc

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Thats the Irish way. Fore-lock tugging toadying to the bitter end. I hate it, its so cringemaking its unbearable.

+1

Red Nissan

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Thank fúck you are all but on your own then, most sensible people will be glad to see the back of this bully boy who considers attributes like honesty, truth and integrity to be "disgusting".

I'd read it more like, the Force First, The Government Second and God Third.

Spring Onion

Red Nissan wrote: »

I'd read it more like, the Force First, The Government Second and God Third.

That's a hell of a wishy washy sentence for someone that believes Callinan did no wrong! :pac:

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Hope Shatter goes too (but he won't), hope Edna goes too (but he won't). Fair play to Varadkar for calling out all this bullsh1t (paraphrasing) last week, someone in government needed to say what most people thought about it.

Red Nissan

Spring Onion wrote: »

That's a hell of a wishy washy sentence for someone that believes Callinan did no wrong! :pac:

I've sided with the man as I believe he knows his job and the force better than most, and he exudes that confidence and sense of commitment. Now, he just might be a "you can't handle the truth" type of guy as well.

He arguably should have been asked to resign or retire.

suicide_circus

Red Nissan wrote: »

I've sided with the man as I believe he knows his job and the force better than most, and he exudes that confidence and sense of commitment

he exudes arrogance, corruption and bull****.

Stavros Murphy

Red Nissan wrote: »

I've sided with the man as I believe he knows his job and the force better than most, and he exudes that confidence and sense of commitment. Now, he just might be a "you can't handle the truth" type of guy as well.

He arguably should have been asked to resign or retire.

You're confusing arrogance for confidence. Easy mistake to make. It's but a skip and a jump to confusing brass necked ignorance for intelligence.

Bichon Lover

Two fine candidates available for the vacancy - Matt Baggott and Judith Gillespie.

Gillespie is clearly not interested in money and, as a woman,would be a culture shock to our backward police force.

oldyouth

Red Nissan wrote: »

I've sided with the man as I believe he knows his job and the force better than most, and he exudes that confidence and sense of commitment. Now, he just might be a "you can't handle the truth" type of guy as well.

He arguably should have been asked to resign or retire.

A man who would rather quit than apologise when PROVEN to be wrong shows very low morals. I think we are better off without the likes of him leading our police force. He sent out a signal to his staff that they were above the laws they swore to uphold

Lenin Skynard

Bichon Lover wrote: »

Two fine candidates available for the vacancy - Matt Baggott and Judith Gillespie.

Gillespie is clearly not interested in money and, as a woman,would be a culture shock to our backward police force.

They've already put a woman in the job for now.

conorhal

What I want to know is, will Shatter apologize and reinstate garda McCabe to active duty? Otherwise this is nothing more then a bit of political theatre and throwing a sacrifical lamb tosser to the mob in the hope that the clamor for justice goes no higher up the ladder.
Shatter has been every bit as dismissive as Callinan and just as unrepentant. Of course his resignation would require either humility or a push, and he has none of the former and the government have no stomach for the latter, so I guess the blame lies with 'a systemic failure', one of our favorite phrases in this country, which generally means that nobody is accountable....again.
Currently, McCabe is the only person that's being punished, still.

Shatter. Reinstate McCabe or go!

Strumms

Red Nissan wrote: »

I've sided with the man as I believe he knows his job and the force better than most, and he exudes that confidence and sense of commitment. Now, he just might be a "you can't handle the truth" type of guy as well.

He arguably should have been asked to resign or retire.

Is this a basis to side with him after all that has happened ? Exactly why this country is in this mess. People cow towing to authority figures like sheep. I suppose we were always brought up to respect authority form a young age. The Guards, shop managers, the clergy whoever.. and look where that has got us as a nation do we learn nothing by our mistakes. Yes we were brought up to believe that authority and leadership was grounded in wisdom, ethics and goodness. History now shows us otherwise. It still seems certain numbers of us need to cop on and learn from our own history.

People who whistle blow do so as a last resort. In an organization like AGS for someone to come out publicly and whistle blow takes an extraordinary amount of bravery. They should be commended not condemned as they were by their so called leader.

renegademaster

people of Ireland should demand more honesty and accountability from those we voted for and the appointments they made

Stavros Murphy

renegademaster wrote: »

people of Ireland demand more honesty and accountability from those we voted for and the appointments they made

They do or they should?

renegademaster

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

They do or they should?

have you seen much in the line of irish people demanding much lately?

sure the fine gaelers were only sayin at their ard fheis that the lack of protest is a sure sign of majority support for government and it's actions,

this was only 2 fcuking weeks ago and look at what was happening on this island at the time.

mrsbyrne

Red Nissan wrote: »

I've sided with the man as I believe he knows his job and the force better than most, and he exudes that confidence and sense of commitment. Now, he just might be a "you can't handle the truth" type of guy as well.

He arguably should have been asked to resign or retire.

More Irish mindless crawling at its very best.
Hes wearing a big hat with a shiny badge, a smart uniform with lots of medals and big epaulettes, he can walk and talk on his phone at the same time and hes surrounded by acolytes. He sticks out his chest and lifts up his chin.
Lets worship him and laud him and never question his desicions.
Disgusting indeed.